aGENT Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Its amazing watching certain players skate and that ability to open up their stance and deceptively push off to create separation on the outside. I remember Hunter Shinkaruk was excellent with opening up his stance briefly and stepping out on the perimeter to blow by the defender. Such an underrated skill, looks simple, but the simple opening up the stance freezes the defender as it often looks like a preparation for a shot. Its going to be key for him to continue developing that to create more separation between him and his defender, he is a good skater but isn't a guy that turns on the burners. He does keep his feet moving and keeping them busy which is great. Its going to afford him a lot of looks offensively in the NHL. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I love wingers that can play both sides.......... It also indicates, he can play center in a pinch........... But one thing at a time........ Point of note............................................We need LWers.....he will be a LWer 100%, unless a lot of injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Its amazing watching certain players skate and that ability to open up their stance and deceptively push off to create separation on the outside. I remember Hunter Shinkaruk was excellent with opening up his stance briefly and stepping out on the perimeter to blow by the defender. Such an underrated skill, looks simple, but the simple opening up the stance freezes the defender as it often looks like a preparation for a shot. Its going to be key for him to continue developing that to create more separation between him and his defender, he is a good skater but isn't a guy that turns on the burners. He does keep his feet moving and keeping them busy which is great. Its going to afford him a lot of looks offensively in the NHL. Pretty sure I could have scored that goal.............That was some heavy lifting by Hoglander He made it look pretty easy....it was not! Edited November 12, 2020 by janisahockeynut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BCNate Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1st Tier- Hoglander, Podkolzin, Joulevi- All ready to go 2nd Tier- Rathbone, Lind, Rafferty- Close 3rd Tier-DiPietro, MacDonaugh, Woo, Costmar, Karlsson- Could be there soon 4th Tier- Zlodyev, Jumo, Persson- Nice starts to draft +1 seasons We have a really nice and balanced prospect pool. I think all of the 1st tier will see ice time this year. If any of the players from the other tiers can make an impact, that woukd be ahuge win. Wasn't sure where to put Tryamkin, but he is having a real nice season in the KHL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Its amazing watching certain players skate and that ability to open up their stance and deceptively push off to create separation on the outside. I remember Hunter Shinkaruk was excellent with opening up his stance briefly and stepping out on the perimeter to blow by the defender. Such an underrated skill, looks simple, but the simple opening up the stance freezes the defender as it often looks like a preparation for a shot. Its going to be key for him to continue developing that to create more separation between him and his defender, he is a good skater but isn't a guy that turns on the burners. He does keep his feet moving and keeping them busy which is great. Its going to afford him a lot of looks offensively in the NHL. That assist reminds me of a play Hughes would make. Man it will be fun to have this guy join Hughes and Pettersson. Should be lots of highlight reel plays coming our way. Edited November 13, 2020 by DeNiro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 14 hours ago, BCNate said: 1st Tier- Hoglander, Podkolzin, Joulevi- All ready to go 2nd Tier- Rathbone, Lind, Rafferty- Close 3rd Tier-DiPietro, MacDonaugh, Woo, Costmar, Karlsson- Could be there soon 4th Tier- Zlodyev, Jumo, Persson- Nice starts to draft +1 seasons We have a really nice and balanced prospect pool. I think all of the 1st tier will see ice time this year. If any of the players from the other tiers can make an impact, that woukd be ahuge win. Wasn't sure where to put Tryamkin, but he is having a real nice season in the KHL. Last season in the AHL, Rafferty was a much better player than Juolevi - and it is not putting down Juolevi to say that. Rafferty was extraordinary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: Last season in the AHL, Rafferty was a much better player than Juolevi - and it is not putting down Juolevi to say that. Rafferty was extraordinary. I thought the report were his defensive game still need work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I thought the report were his defensive game still need work? Only Brisebois had a better plus minus, in addition, as the season drew to a close, Rafferty got more and more of the key defensive situations - which he often used to not only defend but push the play. Like this short-handed goal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 20 hours ago, BCNate said: 1st Tier- Hoglander, Podkolzin, Joulevi- All ready to go 2nd Tier- Rathbone, Lind, Rafferty- Close 3rd Tier-DiPietro, MacDonaugh, Woo, Costmar, Karlsson- Could be there soon 4th Tier- Zlodyev, Jumo, Persson- Nice starts to draft +1 seasons We have a really nice and balanced prospect pool. I think all of the 1st tier will see ice time this year. If any of the players from the other tiers can make an impact, that woukd be ahuge win. Wasn't sure where to put Tryamkin, but he is having a real nice season in the KHL. I would add Chatfield to 2nd tier, but he may see nhl time this year, add Jacek to 3rd Tier, but I have a suspicion he will play in the NHL some day as a 4th line C or bottom 6 winger. lots of dark horse prospects, I like the guys we picked top this year - Kunz and Truscott I don't see woo getting nhl time, I think utunen and breezer will be a good ahl d man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: Last season in the AHL, Rafferty was a much better player than Juolevi - and it is not putting down Juolevi to say that. Rafferty was extraordinary. I don't disagree at all, I just question how well Rafferty will be able to defend at the NHL level. He certainly had his struggles in Utica, and is 25, so not sure how much more he will develop. We've all heard JB talk about Chatfield and Joulevi's readiness for next season, but not anything about BR. Not sure why, but JB doesn't seem quite as high on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 22 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: Pretty sure I could have scored that goal.............That was some heavy lifting by Hoglander He made it look pretty easy....it was not! That move/pass is just what EP needs to start scoring 50+ goals a year....Podz. on the other side retrieving pucks and storming the net.... ....unstoppable...! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 22 hours ago, BCNate said: 1st Tier- Hoglander, Podkolzin, Joulevi- All ready to go 2nd Tier- Rathbone, Lind, Rafferty- Close 3rd Tier-DiPietro, MacDonaugh, Woo, Costmar, Karlsson- Could be there soon 4th Tier- Zlodyev, Jumo, Persson- Nice starts to draft +1 seasons We have a really nice and balanced prospect pool. I think all of the 1st tier will see ice time this year. If any of the players from the other tiers can make an impact, that woukd be ahuge win. Wasn't sure where to put Tryamkin, but he is having a real nice season in the KHL. I have had a hard time putting players into degrees of NHL success.....but I would say I see it a little different than you.......not that yours is bad, because it is not. I see it this way.............. Potential 1st and 2nd line players: Podkolzin and Hoglander Potential players that may elevate to be 1st and 2nd players: Joulevi, Rathbone, Tryamkin Players that have the potential to be 3 line players: Lind, Rafferty, Chatfield, DiPietro, Woo, Brisebois, Jasek Players that show promise that they could move up into NHL ready: Karlsson, Zlodeyev, McDonough Players that may show promise to move up: Costmar, Utunen, Truscott, Persson, Kunz, Malone, and Focht I don't look at this as a prospect list, as much as list of players owned by the Canucks. I also have some reservations on Rafferty and Tryamkin, because of age 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: I have had a hard time putting players into degrees of NHL success.....but I would say I see it a little different than you.......not that yours is bad, because it is not. I see it this way.............. Potential 1st and 2nd line players: Podkolzin and Hoglander Potential players that may elevate to be 1st and 2nd players: Joulevi, Rathbone, Tryamkin Players that have the potential to be 3 line players: Lind, Rafferty, Chatfield, DiPietro, Woo, Brisebois, Jasek Players that show promise that they could move up into NHL ready: Karlsson, Zlodeyev, McDonough Players that may show promise to move up: Costmar, Utunen, Truscott, Persson, Kunz, Malone, and Focht I don't look at this as a prospect list, as much as list of players owned by the Canucks. I also have some reservations on Rafferty and Tryamkin, because of age I think another good method could be S tier - 1st line FWD - Top pairing D Example Hughes/Petey A tier - Top 6 FWD - Top 4 D Example Toffoli/Edler B tier - middle 6 FWD(essentially top 9 FWD) - 4th/5th D Example Pearson/Leivo C tier Bottom 6 FWD - Top 6 D Example Stecher/Beagle D tier4th line/extra FWD - 6th/7th/8th D Example Schaller/Benn You could put players in between tiers as well if like ceiling A/floor B. My list would be Pod Ceiling S/Floor B Hog Ceiling A/Floor B Juolevi/Rathbone Ceiling A/Floor C Woo/Lind Ceiling B/Floor D and so on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) Hogz is everything we wanted Shinkaruk to be. Can't wait to see him in training camp. Edited November 14, 2020 by Petey Castiglione 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Petey Castiglione said: Hogz is everything we wanted Shinkaruk to be. The more I think about it this is so true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Hoglander Pettersson Boeser Miller Horvat Podkolzon Mcdonough Gaudette Lind I am dying to see Hoglander and Petey playing together. With Hughes on the ice at the same time we could see some really exciting hockey, like Edmonton Oilers 1980's stuff... I think we have the makings of an incredible top 9 forward combination. And Benning drafted 7 of them and traded for another. With Hughes on the backend and Demko in net we have the makings of a perennial playoff team and Stanley Cup contender within 2-3 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: I thought the report were his defensive game still need work? Whose doesn’t? There is no perfect defenseman since Bobby Orr. By whom? Doubt that it was people who actually watched him play. You don’t get the second highest +/- on the team by being poor on D. When you are playing big minutes at the critical times in games you don’t get a big +/- by being poor defensively. That duck does not fly, it’s a canard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: Whose doesn’t? There is no perfect defenseman since Bobby Orr. By whom? Doubt that it was people who actually watched him play. You don’t get the second highest +/- on the team by being poor on D. When you are playing big minutes at the critical times in games you don’t get a big +/- by being poor defensively. That duck does not fly, it’s a canard. I don't have a link but I'm certain I heard it right from Cull on a 650 interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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