canucklehead44 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: We had two seventh round picks in 2019, the second was Aiden McDonough. Looks like he’s no slouch, either. Our 7th round picks are far out performing the 5 players we picked in rounds 4-6. Goes to show the value of getting more picks in the later rounds. From the first round -> second round there is a massive drop, and another significant drop again from the second round -> third round but after that it is basically a crap shoot. If you add McDonough to the list of 10 NCAA players drafted in the top two rounds he ranks 6/11, which is impressive given a lot of those ahead of him were the top prospects in the draft (Turcotte, Caufield, Zegras, Newhook). The other player Pinto (32nd overall) has just one more point in two additional games played. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post thrago Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) The thing I worry the most about Arvid is how are we going to afford him? Every time he scores they say Goal Arvid Cost more, when will it end, will his value level out? Edited September 1, 2020 by thrago 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 2:28 AM, AK_19 said: I'd prefer he spend the next two years in the Ahl than Shl +Ahl. The Comets have a need for centres too so he'd get a lot of icetime. But AHL isn't the place for swedish talent... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 23 hours ago, Timråfan said: But AHL isn't the place for swedish talent... There might not be an AHL this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, SergioMomesso said: There might not be an AHL this year And based on the effectiveness of their Herd Immunity strategy, there might not be a Sweden. Edited September 3, 2020 by Captain Canuck #12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: And based on the effectiveness of their Herd Immunity strategy, there might not be a Sweden. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bnnbloomberg.ca/who-special-envoy-heaps-praise-on-sweden-s-covid-strategy-1.1487234.amp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, D-Money said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bnnbloomberg.ca/who-special-envoy-heaps-praise-on-sweden-s-covid-strategy-1.1487234.amp.html At the risk of taking this thread far sideways and really p***ing off the people who actually came here to read about Arvid Costmar, here's my response to this article: Sweden has taken the approach to COVID 19 that Trump would love to take in the US, but hasn't gotten away with (yet). What we know is that here is no herd immunity to COVID 19. It is like other coronaviruses, such as the common cold, in that people who get it once develop no immunity to prevent them from getting it again. But what they have realized in Sweden is that is it mainly just the elderly and infirm who die from catching it, so they are willing to make that sacrifice if it protects their economy, keeps their country open and allows their citizens (except those poor souls who die) to keep living more or less normally. Edited September 3, 2020 by Captain Canuck #12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted September 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2020 I was surprised at first to see so much COVID-19 talk in this thread. But then I looked at the name. Arvid Costmar First two letters of surname: CO Last three letters of given name: VID COVID And then I remembered his draft year. 2019 COVID-19 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: At the risk of taking this thread far sideways and really p***ing off the people who actually came here to read about Arvid Costmar, here's my response to this article: Sweden has taken the approach to COVID 19 that Trump would love to take in the US, but hasn't gotten away with (yet). What we know is that here is no herd immunity to COVID 19. It is like other coronaviruses, such as the common cold, in that people who get it once develop no immunity to prevent them from getting it again. But what they have realized in Sweden is that is it mainly just the elderly and infirm who die from catching it, so they are willing to make that sacrifice if it protects their economy, keeps their country open and allows their citizens (except those poor souls who die) to keep living more or less normally. But how does any of that relate to this? 11 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: And based on the effectiveness of their Herd Immunity strategy, there might not be a Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 7 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: I was surprised at first to see so much COVID-19 talk in this thread. But then I looked at the name. Arvid Costmar First two letters of surname: CO Last three letters of given name: VID COVID And then I remembered his draft year. 2019 COVID-19 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 14 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: And based on the effectiveness of their Herd Immunity strategy, there might not be a Sweden. I think you missed his tongue-in-cheek response. It was meant to be a joke Not interested in discussing politics and blah blah blah... but anyways all good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 7:44 PM, Captain Canuck #12 said: And based on the effectiveness of their Herd Immunity strategy, there might not be a Sweden. Just a bit chauvinistic on your part, here are the results, they are doing much better than us overall: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/sweden?country=~SWE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 On 3/14/2020 at 5:40 AM, canucklehead44 said: Our 7th round picks are far out performing the 5 players we picked in rounds 4-6. Goes to show the value of getting more picks in the later rounds. From the first round -> second round there is a massive drop, and another significant drop again from the second round -> third round but after that it is basically a crap shoot. If you add McDonough to the list of 10 NCAA players drafted in the top two rounds he ranks 6/11, which is impressive given a lot of those ahead of him were the top prospects in the draft (Turcotte, Caufield, Zegras, Newhook). The other player Pinto (32nd overall) has just one more point in two additional games played. That is not entirely true. Focht is a fifth round pick, a two way centre and is doing just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I know one thing, these low round picks are scouts picks. The scouts late round picks sorted out from a list of likely hundreds. When it came time to choose a player likely 3rd round of beyond no GM has the time to scout that many youngsters, so the scouts get the tip of the hat for the job they've done with late picks. Never mind their huge influence for the 1st and 2nd round selections. Vcr is very fortunate to grab diamonds in late round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I genuinely hadn’t even remembered this guy being picked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 4:32 AM, Ray_Cathode said: That is not entirely true. Focht is a fifth round pick, a two way centre and is doing just fine. His point production dropped after his draft year (although goals went up). He was already an over-ager so essentially he finished 4th in team scoring in his +2 year. Not saying he is a complete right off but has bottom 6 AHLer written all over him which is fine to have guys like that in the system. Costmar is a year younger and dominated the Swedish junior league. Arvid is a late bloomer but his 50 points in 29 games is excellent. For context: Anze Kopitar 49 in 30 (draft year) Daniel Sedin 46 in 30 (career multiple seasons) Henrik Sedin 47 in 34 Frans Nielsen 46 in 31 Carl Soderberg 48 in 27 draft year, 19 in 12 +1 William Nylander 50 in 38 Alex Steen 52 in 40 So in terms of production he has some good company! That said, most of these guys weren’t playing in that league in their +1 but the upside is intriguing. Given the age of his production I don’t see Costmar making the NHL as a 50-60 point top 6 player. He has enough skill to be a bottom 6 guy if he can work on his penalty killing. At 5’11 181lbs he has a pretty good build for his age so 200lbs is doable if he transforms his game in that way. He is still a long shot but an intriguing prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) On 9/5/2020 at 8:56 AM, Provost said: I genuinely hadn’t even remembered this guy being picked... Have to wonder where Arvid would’ve gone in this year’s draft? He was one of the youngest players drafted in 2019. Had his birthday fallen a little later in the year, he’d have been a first time eligible for 2020. Compared to SuperElit U20 standouts from this year, like Zion Nybeck and Theodor Niederbach (who are both expected to go as early as rounds 1-2), Costmar actually owns the better numbers for their league, he was just ~2 months too old to be sitting alongside them as a 2020 (first time) eligible. EDIT: The whole “late birthday” thing is really interesting in drafting. Often, a huge deal is made over the “age advantage“ of just a few months. And other times, it seems to get ignored. Take Marco Rossi. Lots of people talk about him being 2001 born and turning 19 soon (there are other factors, but I see his age brought up repeatedly when discussing his production). But he’s only two weeks older than Lafreniere, and Rossi had more goals and more assists, and in what’s historically a tougher league, while only playing 4 more games than Lafreniere. And Rossi is a smaller player (strong and tough as nails, though) and he had to adjust from European to NA hockey. Lafreniere is awesome, but he’s also older and bigger than most of the other players in his draft. And it’s pretty much crickets when it comes to discussing any potential advantages he might have had because of this. I still think Lafreniere is #1, but I believe Rossi should be rated higher than many have him. When it comes to Costmar, it’s kinda the reverse. He was very young and still pretty raw in areas, when he was drafted. It’s not crazy to think of him more like a 2020 eligible (instead of a 2019 pick), and give him some value boost based on the progress he’s made in 2019-20, and how his performance compares to the top prospects from his league who are true 2020 picks. Edited September 7, 2020 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joe-max Posted September 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2020 Rather Arvid + Costmar than Covid + Asthma. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck59 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Arvid Costmar could be the real deal give him a couple of more years in Sweden and the world juniors if they have it this year he should be a top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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