JM_ Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Myers wont replace his physicality. Oh well. yeah but it will be nice having that shot tho. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuck73_3 Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Myers wont replace his physicality. Oh well. 1 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 An unnamed GM to Gord Miller: “I’m trying to move out bad contracts so I can give out some more tomorrow.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: He can only report what his sources leak to him. It's clear it was a negotiation tactic (happens all the time through the media), just don't know if it was the Canucks or Edler's camp. Edited June 30, 2019 by kanucks25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Free Agency tomorrow. Myers is one of the most sought after UFAs and I suspect he will be one of the first UFAs to sign. Benning will have to act quickly. If Myers goes to Philly instead, is Gardiner the next one on their list? Benning did say they were going to sign a couple of free agent Dmen. Could that end up being Edler and Hutton? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Quote Tyler Myers, 29, D If the league didn’t suffer from a temporary bout of insanity every July 1, then maybe Myers wouldn’t be on this list. Probably he wouldn’t, actually. But do yourself a favor and check in on the scuttlebutt surrounding a possible Myers contract this off-season. Some reports have a potential deal falling in the $7-million range per season. Others are upwards of that. If he came in at $7.5 million, Myers would be tied with Aaron Ekblad as the 11th-highest paid rearguard in the league. Now, let’s give that some context. Over his past six seasons, Myers has scored at about a 10-goal, 32-point rate. He has averaged 22 minutes per night. But he has not for a second been confused with one of the top-10 defensemen in the NHL. Ignoring every base and advanced metric, consider this: Myers hasn’t received a single vote for the Norris Trophy over that time. Not even a fifth-place nod. There are other, better ways to measure a defenseman’s talent, but that’s indicative of where Myers falls into the hierarchy of NHL rearguards. https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/five-free-agents-who-should-be-signed-with-caution (I'd rather have Gardiner) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) This all makes me wonder - is Benning a poor negotiator? He doesn't typically do that well (getting good returns) when he makes trades, or is able to bring in star players. In fact, he had to pay full value to a team in cap trouble to acquire Miller. I think he may want to get Myers or Gardiner, but perhaps isn't savvy enough to pull it off. Edited June 30, 2019 by NUCKER67 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kanukfanatic Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 Just now, NUCKER67 said: This all makes me wonder - is Benning a poor negotiator? He doesn't typically do that well (getting good returns) when he makes trades. In fact, he had to pay full value to a team in cap trouble to acquire Miller. I think he may want to get Myers or Gardiner, but perhaps isn't savvy enough to pull it off. Oh god...not again. There was interest from a number of teams to get the services of 1st line NHLer JT Miller. Therefore, the team that really wanted him had to pay market price. It really is not that difficult to understand but some people just don't have the cognitive abilities to do so I suppose. I am very happy we got a 1st line player that can play any position and is big and rough. Awesome trade for the Canucks. 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 16 hours ago, KKnight said: I think Myers is a given. For me, it says were going to be active besides landing Myers. Benning is gonna surprise us with something. How I would like it to play out is: Myers @ 6mill over 5 years Nyquist @ 5.5 mill over 3 years Chiarot @ 2 mill for 1 year Boeser resigned @ 6.75 mill over 6-7 McElhinney @ max ahl salary for a 2 way contract. Trade Sutter for 3rd or 4th round pick. Saves 4.38 cap hit. Try to package Eriksson (25% retention) with Sven to Ottawa for a late pick? Ottawa definitely needs to hit the cap floor. So this helps both. We eat Eat 1.5 mill cap hit on Loui and shed 7.87 in the process. Sign Leivo @ 2 mill per for 2 years. Miller - Pete - Boeser Pearson - Bo - Nyquist Virtanen - Gauds - Leivo Motte - Beagle - MacEwen Ex. Schaller (ir) Roussel, until christmas. Edler - Myers Hughes - Tanev Chiarot - Stecher Ex. Biega, Sautner/Brisebois Marky Demko If were out of it come TDL Trade Tanev and sign Tryamkin to come over. Shop chiarot, replace with Brisebois. That looks good, either Nemeth or Chiarot would be good additions and not sure about Nyquist, I like Johansson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannydog Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: This all makes me wonder - is Benning a poor negotiator? He doesn't typically do that well (getting good returns) when he makes trades. In fact, he had to pay full value to a team in cap trouble to acquire Miller. I think he may want to get Myers or Gardiner, but perhaps isn't savvy enough to pull it off. Its obviously not just Benning looking into Myers. If hes the highest coveted UFA Dman available WHOEVER wins him over is going to pay. If another GM wins Myers for7x6 is he a bad negotiator or the man who out GMd Benning? The question is for what Myers is going to get , is it worth it to the Nucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, wildcam said: I predict we sign Meyers 6yrs x 6.7 million and then sign Jordie Benn 3yrs x 3 million... No to Benn too old, Nemeth or Chairot is a good fit Edited June 30, 2019 by Sbriggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Dombrova22 said: Well if you trust Dhaliwal we will have a legit shot at landing both Myers and Nyquist. Take it for what it's worth. I’m optimistic that we will land Myers. Not so sure about Gus tho. I meant to say that we even knew the numbers and term pretty close last year. But it is what it is. Not too long before we know this again I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hammertime Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: This all makes me wonder - is Benning a poor negotiator? He doesn't typically do that well (getting good returns) when he makes trades. In fact, he had to pay full value to a team in cap trouble to acquire Miller. I think he may want to get Myers or Gardiner, but perhaps isn't savvy enough to pull it off. I dont think savvy has anything to do with it. Their going to the highest bidder. Savvy would be to let that be someone else. Double edged sword. If JB goes into next season with the D corps of last year Fans will call for his head. If he signs an over priced Myers fans will call for his head. If he trades for a D its gonna cost him youth or picks and fans will call for his head. What do people really think his options are? Short of tanking some more in which case FA will have his head. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: This all makes me wonder - is Benning a poor negotiator? He doesn't typically do that well (getting good returns) when he makes trades, or is able to bring in star players. In fact, he had to pay full value to a team in cap trouble to acquire Miller. I think he may want to get Myers or Gardiner, but perhaps isn't savvy enough to pull it off. We got Miller for below his market value... This narrative is... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: Oh god...not again. The media is mostly to blame for all of this. Just visited my Dad, and he was all wondering what's happening with the Canucks and how they have all these bad contracts and are in trouble and going to be a bad team; could tell it was from reading the local rags and listening to what's on TV. The Canucks are in massive cap and contract trouble, meanwhile the Leafs, Jets, Oilers, and Flames are doing just fine? Patrick Johnson has in general been better, but whoever wrote the headline for his article yesterday used a different and more despairing one in the paper Sun than online. Maybe because he's new still and hasn't been absorbed by the Canuck-hating/mocking Borg, but hopefully he stays at least reasonably objective. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I like that Benning brought in Miller, they need help in their top 6. I'm hopeful Benning can sign a top 4 Dman and trade Eriksson and Sutter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastDave Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I rather the Nucks sign three cheap undervalued defencemen on short term deals than signing Myers for 7x7 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, hammertime said: I dont think savvy has anything to do with it. Their going to the highest bidder. Savvy would be to let that be someone else. Double edged sword. If JB goes into next season with the D corps of last year Fans will call for his head. If he signs an over priced Myers fans will call for his head. If he trades for a D its gonna cost him youth or picks and fans will call for his head. What do people really think his options are? Short of tanking some more in which case FA will have his head. Excellent points, if you could have made it any clearer, unfortunately people on here will go after his head no matter what he does so I'm glad he ignores us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, WestCoastDave said: I rather the Nucks sign three cheap undervalued defencemen on short term deals than signing Myers for 7x7 years. We have too many of those. The Canucks have one of the worst defence in the NHL. They need better than average players back there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I like that Benning brought in Miller, they need help in their top 6. I'm hopeful Benning can sign a top 4 Dman and trade Eriksson and Sutter. Eriksson yes, Sutter not yet imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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