Popular Post Provost Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) Apparently 8x$5.9 million. Pretty fair deal. From a Canucks perspective, I hope this leans the Boeser signing to having a six in front of it rather than a seven. Karlsson has scored a lot more goals in the past two years than Boeser. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/golden-knights-reportedly-to-sign-karlsson-to-8-year-deal/wcm/ceb55828-80c7-4447-8252-71a74234681b/amp Edited June 23, 2019 by Provost 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Stoch Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Good deal and could be an absolute steal if he ever returns to his 40 goal form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 So Vegas now at 89 mil salary with an 81.5 cap limit. 1 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: So Vegas now at 89 mil salary with an 81.5 cap limit. Well they do get the Clarkson cap relief, but still will have to make some moves for sure as they still need a couple more roster players too. Colin Miller and Reaves should be basically free for cap relief. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 From 78 to 56 pts last year - Vegas may be a bit relieved that his production tailed off (43 to 24 goals). Still a really good deal imo for a 56 pt player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analyst82 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) Just goes to show that even cap strapped teams tend to keep and resign players they value. People harp on the Miller trade but as you can see just because players are UFA / RFA doesn't mean they will ever hit the open market. Edited June 23, 2019 by Analyst82 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: So Vegas now at 89 mil salary with an 81.5 cap limit. 12 forwards (excluding Clarkson). 6 D and Fleury signed unfortunately they're looking fairly healthy at this point after this contract. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Provost said: Well they do get the Clarkson cap relief, but still will have to make some moves for sure as they still need a couple more roster players too. Colin Miller and Reaves should be basically free for cap relief. Eric Haula might be cheap. Reaves might be cheap. But if you think Colin MIller will be 'basically free' I think you might be getting carried away. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldnews said: 12 forwards (excluding Clarkson). 6 D and Fleury signed unfortunately they're looking fairly healthy at this point after this contract. How exactly is that? They are 3 million over the cap, and still need to sign 3 more players. For every player they shed, that adds another player to sign even at league minimum. They also need to have a couple million in buffer for short term injury callups They need to drop about $5 million in salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Analyst82 said: Just goes to show that even cap strapped teams tend to keep and resign players they value. People harp on the Miller trade but as you can see just because players are UFA doesn't mean they will ever hit the open market. He was RFA and, as pointed out, Vegas will certainly have to shed cap before the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: So Vegas now at 89 mil salary with an 81.5 cap limit. yeah they believe that according to the expansion rules they are cap exempt for the first 10 years 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Doesn't Vegas still have to re-sign Nikita Gusev? I'm thinking they are still in cap purgatory and will need to shed millions to get under $81.5 million. I would take a look at Shea Theodore and Ryan Reaves. That would take them out of cap hell and fill two big needs for us. What would it take to get those two guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, Provost said: Well they do get the Clarkson cap relief, but still will have to make some moves for sure as they still need a couple more roster players too. Colin Miller and Reaves should be basically free for cap relief. Miller should bring some decent prospects and/or picks for sure, he won't be a 'dump'. I can't see them parting with Reaves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel the Bure Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 He want to stay in Vegas, 8 years was a key for him, 5.9mln is win for Las Vegas, won-won ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, oldnews said: 12 forwards (excluding Clarkson). 6 D and Fleury signed unfortunately they're looking fairly healthy at this point after this contract. true but someone good has to be shed from that roster. I'd love to see Colin Miller here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizza Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Provost said: Apparently 8x$5.9 million. Pretty fair deal. From a Canucks perspective, I hope this leans the Boeser signing to having a six in front of it rather than a seven. Karlsson has scored a lot more goals in the past two years than Boeser. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/golden-knights-reportedly-to-sign-karlsson-to-8-year-deal/wcm/ceb55828-80c7-4447-8252-71a74234681b/amp 99 point player Nathan Mackinnon makes $6.3M so I don't expect Boeser's contract to be more than $7M. I'd be super pumped if Boeser gets 6Mx8 or 6Mx6. Edited June 23, 2019 by Pizza 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analyst82 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lionized27 said: He was RFA and, as pointed out, Vegas will certainly have to shed cap before the start of the season. Yes, thank you! I meant to say UFA or RFA. All I am saying that teams will not just throw away players they value because they are strapped for cash. I don't think Miller was a cap dump by any means, hence I don't mind the trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post goblix Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Pizza said: 99 point player Nathan Mackinnon makes $6.3M so I don't expect Boeser's contract to be more than $7M. I'd be super pump if Boeser gets 6Mx8 or 6Mx6. You can't use MacKinnon as any kind of comparable lol. Everyone knows he's a bargain and that contract is nutso value. It's like saying well Erickson makes 6m so don't expect Boeser to sign for any less than 15m 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Doesn't Vegas still have to re-sign Nikita Gusev? I'm thinking they are still in cap purgatory and will need to shed millions to get under $81.5 million. I would take a look at Shea Theodore and Ryan Reaves. That would take them out of cap hell and fill two big needs for us. What would it take to get those two guys? Gusev, a back-up goalie (Subban is unsigned), Pirri (UFA). Just 13 forwards, 6 D and Fleury under contract. They're in a tight spot...certainly not nearly as bad a position as the Leafs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: true but someone good has to be shed from that roster. I'd love to see Colin Miller here. Well maybe I haven't had enough coffee to wake myself up this morning. But they can remain 10% over the cap until opening night at which point they get the cap relief from Clarkson (5.25 million). It limits what they can do from now until then, but they consider themselves contenders - I think they'd spend an asset if necessary to rid themselves of a Haula or Reaves as opposed to 'giving a Miller away for free'. The thing about the Clarkson cap - it prevents them from doing much from now until they set their roster for the season, so they are effectively somewhat bypassed by the UFA market - in which case I think they will retain their essential assets as opposed to dumping a 20 minute D - they've already lost Engelland in all likelihood - I'd be surprised if they sacrificed Miller when they have depth forwards they can dump, probably at a lesser cost than the loss of Miller would represent. If they dump MIller, they need to replace Miller. Replacing a depth forward is far easier, particularly when they're being bypassed by the market because of Clarkson. That's my take. I think if anyone wanted Miller, it would cost assets, probably market value range assets. Simply because Vegas is in a tight cap situation does not make their valued assets cap dumps. And again - if this team were to acquire Miller, it creates a need / leaves a need for another D to fit - a heavier, harder minutes guy than Miller - there'd still have to be another important addition regardless, imo. Spending assets on Miller doesn't make primary sense imo. Edited June 23, 2019 by oldnews 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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