Popular Post Arrow 1983 Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) I have been reading a lot of posts on this forum lately where people are correcting misinformation, the Leivo signing is just another example in a string of signing posts I and I'm sure many of you have noticed this. Here is just a few of the things I have noticed PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST OTHERs THAT I HAVE MISSED. 1) Roster Max is 23, this is important to note when you are looking at Capfriendly and you post, "we only have $5.5mill in cap space available to sign Boeser, a trade is imminent, (Eriksson, Sutter and Tanev seem to be your guys favorite example) this is not true, Capfriendly is showing currently a 27 man roster they are not predicting which player is making the team. 23 player roster example; Forwards, Pearson, $3,750,000 Pettersson $925000 Miller $5,250,000 Baertschi, $3,366,666 Horvat, $5,500,000 Boeser, $6,500,000 Roussel, $3,000,000 Sutter, $4,375,000 Beagle, $3,000,000 Eriksson, $6,000,000 Gaudette, $916,666 Virtanen, $1,250,000 Motte, $975,000 Leivo $1,500,000 Defence Edler, $6,000,000 Myers, $6,000,000 Hughes, $916,666 Tanev, $4,450,000 Benn, $2,000,000 Stecher, $2,325,000 Fantenberg, $850,000 Biega $916,666 Goalies Markström, $3,666,667 Demko, $1,050,000 This is a 24 Player roster I will explain that in point 2. I have Schaller Buried with a cap hit of $825,000, Luongo, re-cap at $3,033,206 and Spooner, bought out at $1,033,333, and their are Bonuses of $4,550,000 Total Cap hit is $79,283,204, Their are Bonuses of $4,550,000 Cap Remaining, $2,216,796, 2) The reason their is a 24 man roster is cause if Roussel is on LTIR their will be no cap relieve for him cause they are not at max cap in this scenario. A team must be at the ceiling of the cap to replace the cap of the injured player. If they are not then the player goes on IR and the team can replace the roster spot with out exceeding the roster max. 3) Schaller could be on the team at the beginning of the season but never play a game for us, this is due to point 2 Schaller has a higher cap then Gaudette, for example. Gaud is waiver exempt next season and can not be claimed. We can probably expect this with a couple players. After day one of the season Gaud could be called back and Schaller buried and the Canucks can still utilize the LTIR cap replacement of Roussel. So you don't have to be surprised if Petty is sent to Utica before the first day of the start of the season. 4) Boeser could be signed on the first day the season starts. On the first day of the season, The Canucks could have 23 player roster with Roussel on it re-shuffle their whole lineup place Roussel on LTIR and then sign Boeser to fill Roussel spot on the roster. This could be very tricky to do so but it can be done. There is no rule that the injured player has to be replaced by a currently signed player. It will be very interesting to see where Baertschi is at the beginning of training camp with his concussion issue. Roussel and Baer cap hits total, $6.367 million this would make the start of the season signing much easier and then time would determine if trades or other roster movements would have to be made when Roussel comes back or if other injuries could be placed on LTIR. Edited July 5, 2019 by Arrow 1983 9 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Arrow 1983 said: I have been reading a lot of posts on this forum lately where people are correcting misinformation, the Leivo signing is just another example in a string of signing posts I and I'm sure many of you have noticed this. Here is just a few of the things I have noticed PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST OTHERs THAT I HAVE MISSED. 1) Roster Max is 23, this is important to note when you are looking at Capfriendly and you post, "we only have $5.5mill in cap space available to sign Boeser, a trade is imminent, (Eriksson, Sutter and Tanev seem to be your guys favorite example) this is not true, Capfriendly is showing currently a 27 man roster they are not predicting which player is making the team. 23 player roster example; Forwards, Pearson, $3,750,000 Pettersson $925000 Miller $5,250,000 Baertschi, $3,366,666 Horvat, $5,500,000 Boeser, $6,500,000 Roussel, $3,000,000 Sutter, $4,375,000 Beagle, $3,000,000 Eriksson, $6,000,000 Gaudette, $916,666 Virtanen, $1,250,000 Defence Motte, $975,000 Leivo $1,500,000 Edler, $6,000,000 Myers, $6,000,000 Hughes, $916,666 Tanev, $4,450,000 Benn, $2,000,000 Stecher, $2,325,000 Fantenberg, $850,000 Biega $916,666 Goalies Markström, $3,666,667 Demko, $1,050,000 This is a 24 Player roster I will explain that in point 2. I have Schaller Buried with a cap hit of $825,000, Luongo, re-cap at $3,033,206 and Spooner, bought out at $1,033,333, and their are Bonuses of $4,550,000 Total Cap hit is $79,283,204, Their are Bonuses of $4,550,000 Cap Remaining, $2,216,796, 2) The reason their is a 24 man roster is cause if Roussel is on LTIR their will be no cap relieve for him cause they are not at max cap in this scenario. A team must be at the ceiling of the cap to replace the cap of the injured player. If they are not then the player goes on IR and the team can replace the roster spot with out exceeding the roster max. 3) Schaller could be on the team at the beginning of the season but never play a game for us, this is due to point 2 Schaller has a higher cap then Gaudette, for example. Gaud is waiver exempt next season and can not be claimed. We can probably expect this with a couple players. After day one of the season Gaud could be called back and Schaller buried and the Canucks can still utilize the LTIR cap replacement of Roussel. So you don't have to be surprised if Petty is sent to Utica before the first day of the start of the season. 4) Boeser could be signed on the first day the season starts. On the first day of the season, The Canucks could have 23 player roster with Roussel on it re-shuffle their whole lineup place Roussel on LTIR and then sign Boeser to fill Roussel spot on the roster. This could be very tricky to do so but it can be done. There is no rule that the injured player has to be replaced by a currently signed player. It will be very interesting to see where Baertschi is at the beginning of training camp with his concussion issue. Roussel and Baer cap hits total, $6.367 million this would make the start of the season signing much easier and then time would determine if trades or other roster movements would have to be made when Roussel comes back or if other injuries could be placed on LTIR. On the first day of the season doesn’t Boeser become available to get offersheeted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I just usually go with https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks. They are saying that we currently have $5.5M. If Roussel goes on LTIR, we should be able to add $3M more, no? A potential trade of Tanev and Sutter (without getting much salary back) would do wonders to our cap space and allow us to look at remaining FAs such as Ferland and Dzingel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) Need to trade Sutter 4.3 x 2 yrs and retain ( 1.4 x 2 ) this would give us 3 million extra Edited July 5, 2019 by wildcam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2019 Motte and Leivo are the top defensive pairing? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow 1983 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Motte and Leivo are the top defensive pairing? mods just delete the whole post if people are going to pick out mistakes and be petty. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow 1983 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: I just usually go with https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks. They are saying that we currently have $5.5M. If Roussel goes on LTIR, we should be able to add $3M more, no? A potential trade of Tanev and Sutter (without getting much salary back) would do wonders to our cap space and allow us to look at remaining FAs such as Ferland and Dzingel. Mods just delete my OP completely people don't seem to read them anyways 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow 1983 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Standing_Tall#37 said: On the first day of the season doesn’t Boeser become available to get offersheeted? the simple answer is no we hold his rights completely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Questions that don’t deserve their own thread, the Answers version. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Sticky please! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow 1983 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Motte and Leivo are the top defensive pairing? Had you written OP you made a mistake in the line up and showed me where you would come off less like a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: I just usually go with https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks. They are saying that we currently have $5.5M. If Roussel goes on LTIR, we should be able to add $3M more, no? A potential trade of Tanev and Sutter (without getting much salary back) would do wonders to our cap space and allow us to look at remaining FAs such as Ferland and Dzingel. 4 minutes ago, Arrow 1983 said: Mods just delete my OP completely people don't seem to read them anyways 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Motte and Leivo are the top defensive pairing? The element of surprise will be their greatest asset. The opposition will be skating down and they'll be like... "What the heck is going on....?" Thus a turnover and a scoring chance going the other way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Arrow 1983 said: Had you written OP you made a mistake in the line up and showed me where you would come off less like a jerk. but that's less funny 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Fans should go to Capfreindly and set themselves up as an armchair GM. Then build a team. You can trade, buy out and shuffle players back and forth to Utica. It makes the allowances for you. It can help you understand how things work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, Arrow 1983 said: mods just delete the whole post if people are going to pick out mistakes and be petty. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Arrow 1983 said: Had you written OP you made a mistake in the line up and showed me where you would come off less like a jerk. Had you checked your post before publishing it...…. Edited July 5, 2019 by PhillipBlunt 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: You need a hanky? The OP needs to accept I like the crap I post. Where’s that Hippo crap video when you need it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Arrow 1983 said: I have been reading a lot of posts on this forum lately where people are correcting misinformation, the Leivo signing is just another example in a string of signing posts I and I'm sure many of you have noticed this. Here is just a few of the things I have noticed PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST OTHERs THAT I HAVE MISSED. 1) Roster Max is 23, this is important to note when you are looking at Capfriendly and you post, "we only have $5.5mill in cap space available to sign Boeser, a trade is imminent, (Eriksson, Sutter and Tanev seem to be your guys favorite example) this is not true, Capfriendly is showing currently a 27 man roster they are not predicting which player is making the team. 23 player roster example; Forwards, Pearson, $3,750,000 Pettersson $925000 Miller $5,250,000 Baertschi, $3,366,666 Horvat, $5,500,000 Boeser, $6,500,000 Roussel, $3,000,000 Sutter, $4,375,000 Beagle, $3,000,000 Eriksson, $6,000,000 Gaudette, $916,666 Virtanen, $1,250,000 Motte, $975,000 Leivo $1,500,000 Defence Edler, $6,000,000 Myers, $6,000,000 Hughes, $916,666 Tanev, $4,450,000 Benn, $2,000,000 Stecher, $2,325,000 Fantenberg, $850,000 Biega $916,666 Goalies Markström, $3,666,667 Demko, $1,050,000 This is a 24 Player roster I will explain that in point 2. I have Schaller Buried with a cap hit of $825,000, Luongo, re-cap at $3,033,206 and Spooner, bought out at $1,033,333, and their are Bonuses of $4,550,000 Total Cap hit is $79,283,204, Their are Bonuses of $4,550,000 Cap Remaining, $2,216,796, 2) The reason their is a 24 man roster is cause if Roussel is on LTIR their will be no cap relieve for him cause they are not at max cap in this scenario. A team must be at the ceiling of the cap to replace the cap of the injured player. If they are not then the player goes on IR and the team can replace the roster spot with out exceeding the roster max. 3) Schaller could be on the team at the beginning of the season but never play a game for us, this is due to point 2 Schaller has a higher cap then Gaudette, for example. Gaud is waiver exempt next season and can not be claimed. We can probably expect this with a couple players. After day one of the season Gaud could be called back and Schaller buried and the Canucks can still utilize the LTIR cap replacement of Roussel. So you don't have to be surprised if Petty is sent to Utica before the first day of the start of the season. 4) Boeser could be signed on the first day the season starts. On the first day of the season, The Canucks could have 23 player roster with Roussel on it re-shuffle their whole lineup place Roussel on LTIR and then sign Boeser to fill Roussel spot on the roster. This could be very tricky to do so but it can be done. There is no rule that the injured player has to be replaced by a currently signed player. It will be very interesting to see where Baertschi is at the beginning of training camp with his concussion issue. Roussel and Baer cap hits total, $6.367 million this would make the start of the season signing much easier and then time would determine if trades or other roster movements would have to be made when Roussel comes back or if other injuries could be placed on LTIR. Good post, and that's without moving either Sutter or Eriksson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 pretty damn sensitive op i think not sure why someone thinks they can capture the entire complexity of cap issues in a short post and then get all butt hurt when people point out deficiencies a pretty huge undertaking that is overly simplified shows lack of appreciation for cap issues 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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