Blömqvist Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) EDIT: Double post Edited July 11, 2019 by Blömqvist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Bit early to be saying that imo. At the very least we'll need to make the playoffs before I say that. At worst it's plateaued. We're built in a fashion that we should compete for the playoffs but making it isn't the slam dunk some folks are making it out to be. We've had horrible injury luck for ages, it derailed last season and could happen again. Every other team in the division will be gunning to make it too and who knows how they do. Our D should be better but we've got questions marks there too. Can Marky get back to playing how we played the final three or so months of the season? Can Demko build his game and be a solid backup capable of winning games? We'll see. Biggest questions marks for me are health (especially on the back end and in net), Markstrom's level of play and what we get in Myers/Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam13371337 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 until the aquilinis own this team. and their priority remains playoff revenue.... this team will keep chasing its tail for another 50 cup-less years. the worst types of sports owners are the ones that see it as a business (Rather then a side hobby, passion). if this team had gone thru a proper rebuild that the whole world was calling for in the Tortorella era.... we would be a cup contender by now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, sam13371337 said: until the aquilinis own this team. and their priority remains playoff revenue.... this team will keep chasing its tail for another 50 cup-less years. the worst types of sports owners are the ones that see it as a business (Rather then a side hobby, passion). if this team had gone thru a proper rebuild that the whole world was calling for in the Tortorella era.... we would be a cup contender by now. um.... okay then.... Sorry, I just can't take this kind of opinion seriously. It's like being in some world of ideals and pissed off at the weather outside not being sunshine and rainbows even when the weather's actually decent.... Edited July 11, 2019 by The Lock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam13371337 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, The Lock said: um.... okay then.... Sorry, I just can't take this kind of opinion seriously. It's like being in some world of ideals and pissed off at the weather outside not being sunshine and rainbows even when the weather's actually decent.... I really don't understand what your talking about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Yes and no. Yes, we have a competitive team and I am super high on EVERYONE on this team, super homer. I think everyone will compliment each other next year. I bet Petey and Brock hit 40 goals, Bo has a solid 30 goal campaign and everyone has career years because of the solid group around them. Heres why I said no: The rebuild should never be over. Always think about the future and how balanced your prospect pool is before mortgaging the future. We pick up Nils and Vasili from the draft, one could have gone top 3 other one top 20. Do I mind that we traded an upcoming first for JT Miller? No, we have one of the best prospect pools in the NHL, and we can afford J.T. But man, we've got a solid team and I know I can make a case for most of our players having career years next year. I think Bo finished with 27 last year on a no-playoff team. He could hit 30 easily with a full season beside TP and Miller/MF(MF) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Bubble Man said: I think a rule of thumb should be to never trade a 1st until you know where you are picking/ who you could be picking. There is almost nothing that could make me forgive Jim for that. I thought those days were over, I honestly don’t even want to talk about it. It pisses me off so much. I think he's pretty confident it will be a playoff pick one of the next two years. You also miss 100% of the shots you don't take 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, sam13371337 said: I really don't understand what your talking about... Some how I am not surprised. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KanNuck Posted July 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2019 7 hours ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: The rebuild isn't over but Benning just abandoned it to save his job. Just watch he will now sell out more of the future to correct his mistakes, Eriksson will cost a 1rst round pick and he wil pay it because he HAS to make the playoffs so he can get a job somewhere else. Just wait IF the team manages to get a wild card spot they will be annihilated by one of the two top teams, even if bigger. Benning's clock is running out. How anyone thinks two scorers in Pettersson and Boeser with Hughes end a rebuild, well then every team in the league is rebuiding every year because many have young players and those with legit proven superstars just keep on trucking along. This rebuild needed at the very least one more good draft year more likely two, two more seasons at the rate JB has dragged it out. Pretty much draw a line and every prospect isn't good enough. If we simply keep drafting for another two years and do nothing by the time our picks develop Horvat will be pushing a walker.. they’re comes a point when you add pieces and make a run at it. I’ve been skeptical of JB but give him credit when it’s due. He signed Ferland, Myers and Benn all for less than rumored and whether or not Miller was an overpayment is irrelevant. Let me ask looking at the Marleau dump which cost TO they’re 1st would you rather use the pick like that? Maybe draft a guy you hope turns out to be a difference or simply trade for said player who’s already developed, A guaranteed return who’s the right age. Whether the price was to steep or not, getting a top 6 guy under a good cap with term isn’t ever really a failure. The team is shifting from just drafting, our cupboards are relatively stocked and we should get some playoff experience this season. Add Tryamkin by March, next season a few of our prospects in and a vet or two out, Throw in Podkolzin to add to our drafted and home grown group. And we should be going deep in 2020/2021 Pettersson Horvat Boeser Hughes Tryamkin Podkolzin Virtanan Juolevi Woo ALL DRAFTED then add in these players Myers Ferland Miller Leivo Baer? Roussell Id say JB did a good F****** job and I’ve been a huge critic of his. Eriksson, Suter, Shaller etc will all come off the books or buried in the minors by the time we’re ready to go deep callin it now playoffs this year and a deep run once Podkolzin arrives I’ll gladly eat crow come The spring if I’m wrong. That my friend was a rebuild. Some people’s kids..... can’t make the miserable happy sometimes they’re happy just being negative and I for one am ready to return to playoffs. All the negative haters are what makes our fan base look like a joke we could win the f****** Cup and some of these posters would find a way to spin it into a negative, well I hope they enjoy it noway will we repeat or now we are gonna loose so and so. It only took how long? F sakes lol. Benning came here with nothing look at that list of players and I didn’t post any real prospect depth just roster mainly Eat Crow haters 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 i like the Ferland signing but we needed and still starving for a real top 6 guy (not a 40pts guy) to play with Horvat.hope we will make room by trading Sutter, Eriksson, Beagle, Schaller and even Baertschi. the cheap option (aka 4M top) would be Gusev. A Ferland Horvat Gusev line would be the perfect combinaison of skill, speed and grit.i'm not satisfy yet, we're still in the middle pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stawns Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 9 hours ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: The rebuild isn't over but Benning just abandoned it to save his job. Just watch he will now sell out more of the future to correct his mistakes, Eriksson will cost a 1rst round pick and he wil pay it because he HAS to make the playoffs so he can get a job somewhere else. Just wait IF the team manages to get a wild card spot they will be annihilated by one of the two top teams, even if bigger. Benning's clock is running out. How anyone thinks two scorers in Pettersson and Boeser with Hughes end a rebuild, well then every team in the league is rebuiding every year because many have young players and those with legit proven superstars just keep on trucking along. This rebuild needed at the very least one more good draft year more likely two, two more seasons at the rate JB has dragged it out. Pretty much draw a line and every prospect isn't good enough. You're like Bizarro Apollo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st33 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Our defense could use an actual stud still, and I think we still need a legit top 3 winger. Definitely an improvement and not so much a stop gap team anymore but there are still pieces to be added (and contracts to be removed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 We are in a two-year window where the roster should be fairly static, as we don't have many RFAs due for re-signing after this season. There may be some attrition from prospects making the lineup, but other than possible trades there may not be many changes until after the following season, when it's time to re-sign Petey and Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 10 hours ago, naslund.is.king said: You need to make the playoff before anyone starts declaring the rebuild's over. Unless you're the Leafs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcy2 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Do we need one more high end guy to compete? With this roster I am afraid we might be a first or second round team even if we manage to sneak in (which is no easy task). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I think it is a little early to go all in yet. However , I say now that they have started going down this road they must give it their best shot. It would be nice if they would not move anymore firsts and hopefully hang onto picks in the top three rounds. As long as they can continue to add each year to their prospect pool. As long as they continue to develop players in Utica then we shouldn't see a drastic decline if some of these moves don't work like we all hope. There is risk to what they are doing here. On paper things always look good but it ill come down to chemistry and players health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 5 hours ago, ktcy2 said: Do we need one more high end guy to compete? With this roster I am afraid we might be a first or second round team even if we manage to sneak in (which is no easy task). Maybe LE will respond to having better players to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 5 hours ago, ktcy2 said: Do we need one more high end guy to compete? With this roster I am afraid we might be a first or second round team even if we manage to sneak in (which is no easy task). That's pretty much how the majority of cup winners go. They get in and lose in the 1st or second round for a season or two, then maybe conference finals, then they use that experience to get over the hump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Man Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 11 hours ago, aGENT said: You also miss 100% of the shots you don't take Especially when you don’t have a shot in the 1st round. I’ll go toe 2 toe one lining with the best of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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