The_Rocket Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I think this is just baseless speculation. But I think a real deal is here to be found. If Edmonton retains 250 k on Lucic, the cap hits cancel out. If Calgary can get Lucic to agree to waive his NMC for the expansion draft, then I think I swap is possible. Then instead of Russell, they attach puljujarvi. CGY still sends frolik. I think that’s the most fair trade where both sides benefit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Little Johnny has obviously asked for this trade. He's been pooing his pants ever since we signed Ferland. He wants and needs protection. Why else do this deal if you are Calgary? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, oldnews said: I like Puljujaarvi - but if you sign him, he's waiver eligible. I think they'd have to send another forward at least (Goldobin) Edmonton's way and they'd still stand to lose a pretty damn good player on waivers if they didn't move anyone else. I'd probably prefer to hardball them on cap retention and take Tyler Benson instead - who gives you more flexibility, and comes at a position where you have less prospect depth. Also - I like Benson, I think he'd be a good fit. Never thought of Benson. His star has faded a bit but he's a good match on how Green wants to deploy his line ups. Admittedly I haven't followed him too much lately so not sure what the Oilers think of him. But I liked him on the Giants and if he still has that kind of game to him then ya, that would be a nice add to our prospect pool. Still not sure if it's worth taking Lucic on. But weirder things have happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, King Heffy said: He'd still have to compete with Mike Smith for the title of biggest diver on the Soilers. He'd look great in the hospital. oh man I forgot Smith, McDavid AND Neal on the same team? A ref's dream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRick Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: oh man I forgot Smith, McDavid AND Neal on the same team? A ref's dream. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Lol they switched goalies,why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Little Johnny has obviously asked for this trade. He's been pooing his pants ever since we signed Ferland. He wants and needs protection. Why else do this deal if you are Calgary? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Turn this into a 3 way trade involving the canucks and Loui Eriksson LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, The_Rocket said: I think this is just baseless speculation. But I think a real deal is here to be found. If Edmonton retains 250 k on Lucic, the cap hits cancel out. If Calgary can get Lucic to agree to waive his NMC for the expansion draft, then I think I swap is possible. Then instead of Russell, they attach puljujarvi. CGY still sends frolik. I think that’s the most fair trade where both sides benefit let's see you fix the money so that it balances so the trade is even that way .. ok then get lucic to cancel his nmc.. and say it is all possible and then change the trade, put in pool party, don't balance the money .. and say it is fair ? odd logic but ok not sure how coilers can afford that trade though as they don't have sufficient cap space if russell is not included but ok, i guess everyone on here is entitled to post their views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 hours ago, TheRick said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, captainhorvat said: Turn this into a 3 way trade involving the canucks and Loui Eriksson LOL VAN Lucic Puljujarvi EDM Neal Eriksson CGY Russell Goldobin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 hours ago, rekker said: I'm trying to wrap my head around this rumour but I cant. Seems more like both teams throwing the other teams crap against the wall and seeing what sticks. On a side note it was rumored Neal turned done a Vegas offer last year that was shorter term than Calgarys offer. Bet he would like a do over on that, especially if he ends up in Edmonton. Actually playing with McDavid could revive him. He was frustrated playing 3rd line mins in Calgary. He could be a very good add for Edmonton. I don’t understand what Calgary would do this though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Me_ said: VAN Lucic Puljujarvi EDM Neal Eriksson CGY Russell Goldobin No thanks. Don’t need an anchor in Lucic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Attila Umbrus said: Never thought of Benson. His star has faded a bit but he's a good match on how Green wants to deploy his line ups. Admittedly I haven't followed him too much lately so not sure what the Oilers think of him. But I liked him on the Giants and if he still has that kind of game to him then ya, that would be a nice add to our prospect pool. Still not sure if it's worth taking Lucic on. But weirder things have happened! Benson is actually highly regarded in the oilers system. He’s actually been developed the “right way”, unlike most of their young players. Pretty much a ppg in his first full year in the AHL, he’s expected to push for a spot this year and at worst see some spot duty. He’s a good prospect for them. Edited July 17, 2019 by 18W-40C-6W 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 hours ago, sonoman said: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Me_ said: VAN Lucic Puljujarvi EDM Neal Eriksson CGY Russell Goldobin So why would edmonton take on 2 bad contract in order to get away from 1 bad contract and throw in a sweetener on top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 7 hours ago, 18W-40C-6W said: Actually playing with McDavid could revive him. He was frustrated playing 3rd line mins in Calgary. He could be a very good add for Edmonton. I don’t understand what Calgary would do this though I agree it's not a good trade for the Flames. Between Lucic and Neal, Neal stands the best chance of getting his game back imho. Maybe Pool Party is in the deal to help even it out. Still, this trade rumor just doesnt make any sense to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amebushi Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Me_ said: VAN Lucic Puljujarvi EDM Neal Eriksson CGY Russell Goldobin Hmm...no. Why would we want to help out Calgary? We swap boat anchors with Edmonton in exchange for a struggling pool party. Edmonton just gets screwed. Calgary walks away with a number 4 serviceable d man (didn’t say good but compared to Lucic and Eriksson) and a prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby James Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Like many other I think this rumor doesn't actually hold any truth. This would be a bad trade for Calgary. I believe Neal holds more value than Lucic and has a better chance of bouncing back and hitting 20 goals again. Frolik only has one year left on his contract and is a 30-40 point middle 6 winger. Russell is a fine defensive dman, but he isn't better than at least Calgary's top 4 so why pay 4 million for 2 more years for a bottom pair guy just cause they have some cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 19 hours ago, Attila Umbrus said: Never thought of Benson. His star has faded a bit but he's a good match on how Green wants to deploy his line ups. Admittedly I haven't followed him too much lately so not sure what the Oilers think of him. But I liked him on the Giants and if he still has that kind of game to him then ya, that would be a nice add to our prospect pool. Still not sure if it's worth taking Lucic on. But weirder things have happened! I'd take on Lucic if he's heavily retained and waives the NMC, simply to cut our cap losses on LE. Wouldn't have much to do with expecting him to make the lineup or be an upgrade on anyone - I have my doubts he could make the top 12 forwards - but as a cap dump deal, if he's half the cap hit that LE is, the extra year may be worth eating in exchange for a prospect. Edmonton eats more cap, but they get out of having to protect Lucic in expansion, in which case they may lose a decent player in any event. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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