Boudrias Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 59 minutes ago, kloubek said: I heard him talking about what he went through. He has learned a lot about concussions and is legitimately seeming to be ready to play. I am sure he doesn't want to mess up his future life and neither do the Canucks. He is cleared to play by the medical staff as well as whatever specialist(s) he was seeing. According to him, he just had to wait for the symptoms to subside at high speed. Now, I am not saying you are wrong (and I totally see your point) but a lot of professionals and Ferland himself would believe otherwise. Given their familiarity with the details of the situation plus their professional position, I am led to believe they might be in a better position to assess the risks of his return than you or I. I think this CUP series likely tells the tale on Ferland's future career prospects. How he stands up is something he has to know as well as the Club. I wish him well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted July 26, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2020 It was good to hear Ferland, himself, saying his recent issues weren't related to contact but more to movement around him and a visual thing. May take awhile to adjust...even being on a bright ice surface is likely an adjustment. Love Ferland...really hope he can stay healthy and stick with the group. He's a real difference maker in the playoffs. It was his head that was injured, not his heart...and he's all heart. 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Boudrias said: I think this CUP series likely tells the tale on Ferland's future career prospects. How he stands up is something he has to know as well as the Club. I wish him well. Not really sure I agree. He isn't that far removed from his symptoms. I am no doctor, but I would imagine there is at least a chance his symptoms return which doesn't really mean his career is over. Could just mean his brain needs more time. Now, if he suffers -another- concussion during the playoffs, then that would be a major problem. I too wish him well both as a person and a player. The sad thing with Ferland is that if we wants to continue a strong career, he MUST crash and bang. That is his game. Lose that, and it is all over. Must be a difficult position to be in, given his history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SilentSam Posted July 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2020 17 hours ago, kloubek said: Ferland said today that hitting and contact was not the problem with his condition. It was more of a vertigo-type feeling with everyone flying around, along with difficulty tracking. He says no such symptoms exist. He would be wise to play a careful with his head positioning, but according to him he is ready to start throwing himself around. Good news for us if we could get a fully healthy and playoff engaged Ferland. This is fantastic news, I’ve been through this before in a MVA , Head on collision with a bus that crossed the Center,one in the Sea to Sky. Off work for 15 months because I couldn’t verbalize a sentence, and my brains spacial reasoning, depth perception and motion triggering nausea beyond belief. But yes, it takes time, and yes it heals... even after sustaining another concussion after the fact, it did not trigger the old symptoms. Micheal Ferland will be fine, and know we have a player who is extremely thankful of this organization not to push him. i think the game he “shows” is going to respect that. Kid never needs to drop the mitts again.. just keep playing with that physical attack on the color of a jersey and turn into the play for the puck he earned. Im excited for Ferland, it’s going to feel good having those endorphins pumping through his body after a great shift. ..and for the posters here wondering if he might ruin his career trying to get back in the game. if he stops for any reason,. His career is over,. This is all he has trained for, and done his entire life.. There is no time to think about “what if” when the clock ticks at every second of your life. Giver hell Mikey . 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 Woops...hadn't seen kloubek's post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Caught this , this morning, may have already circulated.. seems MF in better shape than another,. And Eriksson not listed on the line up guess work : My apologies if I’m doubling down on the article. BIG MAC ATTACK Rookie Zack MacEwen, who, like so many young Canucks appeared to progress during the shutdown, was unable to practise on Saturday. Green said he expected MacEwen to travel with the Canucks to Edmonton, which means his absence is not COVID-19-related. He is believed to have a day-to-day injury. VIRTANEN STILL ON OUTSIDE Having lost a spot in the top four lines during the first week of camp, winger Jake Virtanen still looks to be an extra forward. Unless he has a strong exhibition game on Wednesday, the 18-goal scorer could be a healthy scratch against the Wild. Virtanen was simply outplayed by others, including MacEwen and Micheal Ferland, and his lack of penalty-killing experience won’t help when Green selects the bottom of his lineup. At the end of camp, this is how Sportsnet projects the Canucks’ lineup: Forwards: J.T. Miller-Elias Pettersson-Tyler Toffoli; Tanner Pearson-Bo Horvat-Brock Boeser; Antoine Roussel-Adam Gaudette-Micheal Ferland; Tyler Motte-Jay Beagle-Brandon Sutter. Defencemen: Quinn Hughes-Chris Tanev; Alex Edler-Troy Stecher; Oscar Fanteberg-Tyler Myers. Goalies: Jacob Markstrom and Thatcher Demko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 That forward lineup with Virtanen and Eriksson as options is pretty awesome IMO. Juolevi and Rafferty as the replacement options on the D is a little scary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said: That forward lineup with Virtanen and Eriksson as options is pretty awesome IMO. Juolevi and Rafferty as the replacement options on the D is a little scary. For your first part, indeed. To have true NHL players available as callups is a nice liberty to have. (And don't anyone bitch about LE not being an NHL player. He is fine as a 4th liner - paycheque aside) For the second part, I agree that having unseasoned guys as callups isn't ideal. However, if they get playing time, you never know. If they can battle through the nerves, it may even be a blessing in disguise if we are lucky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Moose Nuckle said: That forward lineup with Virtanen and Eriksson as options is pretty awesome IMO. Juolevi and Rafferty as the replacement options on the D is a little scary. I think these 2 will give it everything they got. Consider the fact that really the Cup this year has turned into a “tournament” and these 2 think of it as a showcase to begin next seasons camp.. I think Rafferty is ready age wise physically and mentally to show the prowess it needs to stick.. and Joulevi the smarts.. besides, we go deep,. There’s no chance Tanev and Edler survive without proper relief. Time to play the future now.. Time for those who have trained for this moment to shine in this unique opportunity. i for one have been shaking my head over the Covid / Sports push.. but I am happy and excited for those who have this unique, bonding, and step up to the “bigs” experience. Wed. Jets .. pre lim.. sweet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 11 hours ago, SilentSam said: Caught this , this morning, may have already circulated.. seems MF in better shape than another,. And Eriksson not listed on the line up guess work : My apologies if I’m doubling down on the article. BIG MAC ATTACK Rookie Zack MacEwen, who, like so many young Canucks appeared to progress during the shutdown, was unable to practise on Saturday. Green said he expected MacEwen to travel with the Canucks to Edmonton, which means his absence is not COVID-19-related. He is believed to have a day-to-day injury. VIRTANEN STILL ON OUTSIDE Having lost a spot in the top four lines during the first week of camp, winger Jake Virtanen still looks to be an extra forward. Unless he has a strong exhibition game on Wednesday, the 18-goal scorer could be a healthy scratch against the Wild. Virtanen was simply outplayed by others, including MacEwen and Micheal Ferland, and his lack of penalty-killing experience won’t help when Green selects the bottom of his lineup. At the end of camp, this is how Sportsnet projects the Canucks’ lineup: Forwards: J.T. Miller-Elias Pettersson-Tyler Toffoli; Tanner Pearson-Bo Horvat-Brock Boeser; Antoine Roussel-Adam Gaudette-Micheal Ferland; Tyler Motte-Jay Beagle-Brandon Sutter. Defencemen: Quinn Hughes-Chris Tanev; Alex Edler-Troy Stecher; Oscar Fanteberg-Tyler Myers. Goalies: Jacob Markstrom and Thatcher Demko. Lineup: J.T. Miller - Elias Pettersson - Tyler Toffoli Tanner Pearson - Bo Horvat - Brock Boeser Antoine Roussel - Adam Gaudette - Micheal Ferland Tyler Motte - Jay Beagle - Brandon Sutter. Quinn Hughes - Chris Tanev Alex Edler - Troy Stecher Oscar Fanteberg - Tyler Myers Jacob Markstrom Thatcher Demko That isn't a terrible lineup but I do dislike the lack of offence the 4th line can generate. We need to obviously play smart vs Minny but that bottom line had a combined 14 goals all season (Most of which probably came with other players). Sutter had 8, Motte had 4, and Beags had 2. Eriksson on the other hand had 6. But I am fine with benching Eriksson if it means we are planning on sitting him until he leaves to play Sweden. Fanta and Myers as a pairing was dicey at times too. I absolutely love that third line though. I would keep that 3rd line in-tacted for the entire series. Sutter does play well in big games though. if you recall his first couple games after the trade here. He was so clearly the best player on the ice for parts of those games. I am hoping he has that same energy and defensive tenacity. That was the year we started 4-0-0 lol. 2016 I think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 4:41 AM, Ekko said: Why would we even get a guy like this who played the way he did against us? After hearing his interviews I don't see him lasting more than one game. I don't have a PHD but he seems done like dinner. I mean....what was he for the flames really that year? A guy they probably gave ten redbulls to and told to raise hell. Now....why the heck, would we go get a guy like that and keep jake on the proverbial bench? I get its a business but either ur in or ur out. If anyone thinks a guy whose been on the bench for over a year with lingering brain issues should even be in the conversation to play a shortened playin series is crazy Upside. If Ferland becomes the guy we saw in the Flames series against us, sorry to the Virtanen fanboys, but that Michael Ferland can make an absolute impact for us. Ferland drove our D-men nuts, was hitting anybody with a whale on their chest. Jake is too inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, filthycanuck said: Upside. If Ferland becomes the guy we saw in the Flames series against us, sorry to the Virtanen fanboys, but that Michael Ferland can make an absolute impact for us. Ferland drove our D-men nuts, was hitting anybody with a whale on their chest. Jake is too inconsistent Fun fact, Ferland came into the league at age 22. Also, they don't play the same position, though I guess you could throw them on off wings. I hope he does well too. No point in trashing other players who already have pretty much matched Ferlands career high in points, and are age 23. Career highs: Virt - 36pts in 69 games (age 23) Ferland - 41pts in 77 games (age 25) Shiny new toy syndrome, both are great to have. Edited July 28, 2020 by Moose Nuckle 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 10 hours ago, filthycanuck said: Upside. If Ferland becomes the guy we saw in the Flames series against us, sorry to the Virtanen fanboys, but that Michael Ferland can make an absolute impact for us. Ferland drove our D-men nuts, was hitting anybody with a whale on their chest. Jake is too inconsistent Why not play them together? Lol. One is a LW and the other is a RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 15 hours ago, filthycanuck said: Upside. If Ferland becomes the guy we saw in the Flames series against us, sorry to the Virtanen fanboys, but that Michael Ferland can make an absolute impact for us. Ferland drove our D-men nuts, was hitting anybody with a whale on their chest. Jake is too inconsistent Virtanen and Ferland are not competing for a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, stawns said: Virtanen and Ferland are not competing for a spot. Except they are...... Jake doesn’t kill penalties and he doesn’t fit on the 4th 3rd line was Jakes spot all year. Ferland looks to have taken his spot. Jake needs to try to get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, stawns said: Virtanen and Ferland are not competing for a spot. Injuries issues aside, I actually see Ferland and Virtanen as nearly identical players in terms of playstyle. Both have only been fringe top 6 players and both play a fast, hard-hitting style. Obviously, however, they are at very different points in their careers with Ferland being over four years older than Virtanen. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectic Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Virtanen should be playing where Ferland was. We need to let go of this mindset of 2015 Ferland, and go with Jake in that 3RW spot to drive offense, plus he's better suited to move up and down the lineup than Ferland since he played with the team all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Jesus. He has had ONE preseason game since coming back. How about we give Ferland a chance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 7/28/2020 at 9:18 PM, -AJ- said: Injuries issues aside, I actually see Ferland and Virtanen as nearly identical players in terms of playstyle. Both have only been fringe top 6 players and both play a fast, hard-hitting style. Obviously, however, they are at very different points in their careers with Ferland being over four years older than Virtanen. I would disagree. I think Virtanen is more skilled and Ferland is a lot more gritty. Everyone wants Virtanen to play like Ferland does but he doesn't. He also plays scared and Ferland does not. Ferland isn't afraid of anyone. Virtanen tries to use his skill too much and instead he should play a grittier game and in the end I think things would open up for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, peaches5 said: I would disagree. I think Virtanen is more skilled and Ferland is a lot more gritty. Everyone wants Virtanen to play like Ferland does but he doesn't. He also plays scared and Ferland does not. Ferland isn't afraid of anyone. Virtanen tries to use his skill too much and instead he should play a grittier game and in the end I think things would open up for him. Obviously they do have differences, but I think if I were to categorize them as players, I'd place them both in the power forwards category. I would agree that Virtanen plays more skilled and Ferland plays more gritty, but I think their general styles are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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