Alflives Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 How much and for how long are we stuck with Myers? I liked the signing at first, but is this another Loui? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Alflives said: How much and for how long are we stuck with Myers? I liked the signing at first, but is this another Loui? Even if Myers ends up as bad as Eriksson, his contract is a fair bit more easy to handle. It's one year shorter After July 1, 2020, his NMC becomes a modified NTC Eriksson had two NMC years and two full NTC years before getting a modified NTC Myers also has a less restrictive modified NTC than Eriksson's (Myers has a 10-team no-trade list) Myers does have signing bonuses, but not to the extent of Eriksson's contract, so it's not as bad to buy out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Alflives said: How much and for how long are we stuck with Myers? I liked the signing at first, but is this another Loui? Myers has been our best right handed d man, how are we "stuck" with him? And no, that isn't a shot at our defence, he's actually been good. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just looking at Myers' stats through NHL.com, from the beginning of the season until December, in 27 games Myers had 4 points. From December till now Myers has 16 points in 37 games. Guess he just needed some time to adjust. His defensive game has been better than I expected and his puck moving ability brings a different element to our back end, alongside Quinn. I'd say he's also a big reason Tanev has been as healthy as he has been this season compared to previous seasons because of the hard minutes that are now shared. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) Myers is more of an offensive defenceman. Give him a consistent and capable defensive minded LD partner and then let's judge him. Hughes has had the benefit of Tanev. (not saying Myers is Hughes) I like a lot of what he brings. He is the only consistent physical D on this team and tries to be hard to play against. Given the right quality partner I believe Myers is capable in the top 4 which is what was expected. Edited March 15, 2020 by Borvat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/15/2020 at 9:16 AM, Borvat said: Myers is more of an offensive defenceman. Give him a consistent and capable defensive minded LD partner and then let's judge him. Hughes has had the benefit of Tanev. (not saying Myers is Hughes) I like a lot of what he brings. He is the only consistent physical D on this team and tries to be hard to play against. Given the right quality partner I believe Myers is capable in the top 4 which is what was expected. Idealy for next Season: Hughes - Tanev (resign Tanev at a reasonable caphit) Edler - Rafferty (should get his shot as a RHD) Edmundson (UFA) - Myers Fantanberg Trade: Jordie Benn Stecher not qualified and walks away as an UFA Find a way to shred the cap space of Loui Eriksson + Baertchi + 1 of Sutter/Beagle/Roussel Resign Markstrom and Toffoli as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: Idealy for next Season: Hughes - Tanev (resign Tanev at a reasonable caphit) Edler - Rafferty (should get his shot as a RHD) Edmundson (UFA) - Myers Fantanberg Trade: Jordie Benn Stecher not qualified and walks away as an UFA Find a way to shred the cap space of Loui Eriksson + Baertchi + 1 of Sutter/Beagle/Roussel Resign Markstrom and Toffoli as well. If in fact Myers is only capable of being a bottom pairing D for the Canucks at $6 Million per season they should use 1 of the potential "buyouts" being talked about if they are available. That is way too much money for that position. I think given the right partner he is a "capable" second pairing D. In that case he is overpaid but it isn't a worst case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Borvat said: If in fact Myers is only capable of being a bottom pairing D for the Canucks at $6 Million per season they should use 1 of the potential "buyouts" being talked about if they are available. That is way too much money for that position. I think given the right partner he is a "capable" second pairing D. In that case he is overpaid but it isn't a worst case scenario. IMO, Edmundson + Myers has the potential to be one of the more underrated pairings in the league (if we are able to get Edmundson). I don't see this as a 3rd pairing, I see this and the Edler pairing as a 2A and 2B pairing with Hughes and Tanev as the clear cut #1 pairing. I still believe the system we implement is the bigger problem though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 On 3/26/2020 at 10:35 AM, ruilin96 said: Idealy for next Season: Hughes - Tanev (resign Tanev at a reasonable caphit) Edler - Rafferty (should get his shot as a RHD) Edmundson (UFA) - Myers Fantanberg Trade: Jordie Benn Stecher not qualified and walks away as an UFA Find a way to shred the cap space of Loui Eriksson + Baertchi + 1 of Sutter/Beagle/Roussel Resign Markstrom and Toffoli as well. Edmundson is on my wishlist and, yes, I would have him penciled in as Myers' partner. Unfortunately, with all the uncertainty surrounding the NHL right now, it's hard to determine just how JB could make it reality. Man I can't wait for all this turmoil to end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Outta curiosity assuming NHL allows 2 compliant buyouts, the first one obviously to Loui, would the second one go to Myers or Beagle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: Outta curiosity assuming NHL allows 2 compliant buyouts, the first one obviously to Loui, would the second one go to Myers or Beagle? baertschi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, DontMessMe said: Outta curiosity assuming NHL allows 2 compliant buyouts, the first one obviously to Loui, would the second one go to Myers or Beagle? 1 hour ago, lmm said: baertschi Probably Baertschi, even though he's less than Myers or Beagle. Myers, while very overpaid, is still a good player. Beagle is a bit redundant with Sutter in the lineup, but that could go either way and Sutter is actually paid more. Baertschi isn't being used at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, DontMessMe said: Outta curiosity assuming NHL allows 2 compliant buyouts, the first one obviously to Loui, would the second one go to Myers or Beagle? Myers if we can sign a good defenseman. If we are able to keep a 2nd one for an extended time I'd do that. Beagle's our best option at 4th C. If we were to do anybody else it would be Roussel. Has the same contract as Beagle but is more useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Compliance buyouts are used on players that cannot be moved due to no value and high cap hits. Myers has value. Myers will not have the compliance used on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 52 minutes ago, MrCanuck94 said: Compliance buyouts are used on players that cannot be moved due to no value and high cap hits. Myers has value. Myers will not have the compliance used on him. I am not so sure you could trade Myers without giving a sweetener. He is an ok D man but that contract, in the trade market, gives him very little value in an actual trade imo. I don't mind him and he surely is an upgrade on that AHL level defense we had the couple years before we got him. But I disagree with you statement that he "has value". I agree a buyout would not be used on him though as at least he is an actual NHL level player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Kanukfanatic said: I am not so sure you could trade Myers without giving a sweetener. He is an ok D man but that contract, in the trade market, gives him very little value in an actual trade imo. I don't mind him and he surely is an upgrade on that AHL level defense we had the couple years before we got him. But I disagree with you statement that he "has value". I agree a buyout would not be used on him though as at least he is an actual NHL level player. I both agree and disagree. I do think Myers has value and you could probably trade him without a sweetener, but you would have to find a team that needs a defenseman and even then it wouldn't be a big return. We're talkin' about a B prospect or a mid-round draft pick at best. That said, I still think he would be a candidate for a compliance buyout, simply because it's quite likely that in coming years, he will worsen as he ages into his 30s and it might be nice to be rid of a future problem now. That said, if we're looking more immediately, I think (aside from LE obviously), there are better options still available, like Baertschi, most of all. Sutter and Beagle are useful, but having both seems a bit redundant to me, so they might be options as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pears Posted May 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2020 So remember all that talk about how Myers sucks and is a huge anchor? Yeah about that... 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I have a feeling he is going to play a huge role in our playin and potential playoff run. Started to really see him turn it up his game before the pandemic shut things down. I thought he looked better when more was asked of him, particularly when he was paired with Hughes. The more minutes he played he seemed to rise to the occasion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 2:40 AM, Pears said: So remember all that talk about how Myers sucks and is a huge anchor? Yeah about that... I keep trying to agree with your post but it wont let me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 That is actually better than I expected. For the gaffs I see, guess he's doing a lot right. I do hope to see him throw his weight around more in the playoffs. Maybe score a bit more too if he can - besides Hughes we are still lacking from the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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