Jeffrey Epstein, accused sex trafficker, dies by suicide

[NewbieCanuckFan]

41 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said:

I'll wait to see where the evidence goes before I accuse. 

 

If Trump is implicated, he can't be charged until he's out of office. 

 

If Clinton is implicated, they'll need multiple eyewitnesses to go along with physical evidence for that to go anywhere.

 

The guy was a Billionaire who donated to plenty of politicians over the decades.  More names are likely to be forthcoming.  Some will be innocent money-grubbers, others will likely have participated.  I can see Trump and Clinton being in either camp.  Time will tell.

As I've said before...one is a amateur crook the other is a professional one.

[Alflives]

2 hours ago, debluvscanucks said:

 

 

Women at that party are adults, and made the choice (a foolish one IMO) to be there.  I wonder if men growing up with so much wealth get the wrong impression of what a healthy relationship is with a woman?  Just look at the women dancing (likely drunk) in that video.  Then we see the rich guys leering and laughing at the women.  It’s all kind of gross really.  

[SabreFan1]

29 minutes ago, Canorth said:

TBH, you might be more successful in getting this very valid point across, if you start making sh*t up. 

 

Unfortunately, that’s the way it it is these days...

One tribe vs. the other tribe along with nutty conspiracy theorists immediately stirring things up without regard to the facts...

 

As bad as many journalists have become, the general public has fallen much farther down the ladder.  I've seen it here and all over Twitter ever since the story broke.

[RRypien37]

1 hour ago, SabreFan1 said:

 

Air tight counter-point! 

 

Argue just the source instead of the facts as they are presented.  That's the hallmark of an intellectual!

 

Obviously you and all of the other people who read and post on social media and who love conspiracies are more of an authority than multiple sources who are actually reporting on this.

 

Multiple sources are saying the exact same things as the WSJ.  Google them and read instead of joining the idiot conspiracy mob on Twitter.

Seeing as you believe everything that you hear or read on the internet, it is pointless to continue this discussion. 

 

You appear to be American so that answers why you think the way you do. Not your fault though, that's just the indoctrination of your whole nation. 

Edited August 10, 2019 by RRypien37

[SabreFan1]

20 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

As I've said before...one is a amateur crook the other is a professional one.

They're both pros.  Trump actually fits the definition since he made a living off of the cash that his scamming produced.

 

Most people don't realize that his worth is mostly on paper.  He had to scam both people and banks to become liquid and keep up his lifestyle.

 

The only thing that makes him an actual Billionaire instead of a millionaire is Trump Tower.

[SabreFan1]

1 minute ago, RRypien37 said:

Seeing as you believe everything that you hear or read on the internet it is pointless to continue this discussion. 

 

You appear to be American so that answers why you think they way you do. Not your fault though, just indoctrination of your whole nation. 

Another air-tight intellectual argument from you coupled with a superiority complex no less! 

 

Let's just ignore the fact that you are going along with the tinfoil internet mob and I've been reading the facts from multiple sources.  There's a reason why I didn't join in the discussion for hours.  I actually waited for the reporting to settle down and came to my own conclusions after reading from multiple sources.

[falcon45ca]

Maybe I'm alone on this one, but...

 

 

Dies By Suicide is a &^@#ing great band name.

[Canorth]

1 hour ago, RRypien37 said:

Seeing as you believe everything that you hear or read on the internet, it is pointless to continue this discussion. 

 

You appear to be American so that answers why you think the way you do. Not your fault though, that's just the indoctrination of your whole nation. 

Where, exactly, are you getting your info from? 

 

Serious question.

[Canorth]

1 hour ago, SabreFan1 said:

They're both pros.  Trump actually fits the definition since he made a living off of the cash that his scamming produced.

 

Most people don't realize that his worth is mostly on paper.  He had to scam both people and banks to become liquid and keep up his lifestyle.

 

The only thing that makes him an actual Billionaire instead of a millionaire is Trump Tower.

 

Warning: incoming rhetorical response.

Unsealed documents detail alleged Epstein victim’s recruitment at Mar-a-Lago

“A trove of court documents unsealed Friday detail allegations by an alleged victim of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein that while working as a teenage locker room attendant at President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort nearly two decades ago she was recruited to give Epstein massages that often involved sexual activity.”  Link

 

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waaaaaaaaaaat???

 

Anyone surprised by this should look at artificial means to increase O2 levels to brain cells.

Edited August 11, 2019 by Canorth

[RRypien37]

1 hour ago, Canorth said:

Where, exactly, are you getting your info from? 

 

Serious question.

Same as everyone else. It's quite logical to put the dots together. The day after (literally 15 hours) the news got released there would be a trial with major leaks, this happens. Egomaniacs like him don't take the easy way out. Plus it's not like he would get life. He got a 13 month "sentence" if you want to call it that, first time around. 

 

He had leverage/info/pictures/videos/information of some of the most elite in politics and business. Travelling with him, at his parties, going to his island. It's not exactly hard to figure out that these big boys weren't about to let this information get released to the public. 

 

This isn't the first time and it won't be the last. I am not even convinced he is dead. Could have very well just taken him out the back. 

 

There is a difference between being a "conspiracy theorist" vs logically and critically going through the case with the information provided. 

 

But so are the times, as soon as you question anything, it's "tinfoil hat" for you. 

Edited August 11, 2019 by RRypien37

[SabreFan1]

3 minutes ago, Canorth said:

 

Warning: incoming rhetorical response.

Unsealed documents detail alleged Epstein victim’s recruitment at Mar-a-Lago

“A trove of court documents unsealed Friday detail allegations by an alleged victim of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein that while working as a teenage locker room attendant at President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort nearly two decades ago she was recruited to give Epstein massages that often involved sexual activity.”  Link

 

waaaaaaaaaaat???

 

Anyone surprised by this should look at artificial means to increase O2 levels to brain cells.

 

Bill Richardson is the most recognizable name she pointed out.  Even though he's no longer in politics, he's going to find that most of his friends will no longer return his phone calls from now on.

 

Without physical evidence and/or multiple eyewitnesses, all of this is going to come down to a he said/she said.

[Warhippy]

2 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said:

 

Bill Richardson is the most recognizable name she pointed out.  Even though he's no longer in politics, he's going to find that most of his friends will no longer return his phone calls from now on.

 

Without physical evidence and/or multiple eyewitnesses, all of this is going to come down to a he said/she said.

Well in all honesty...it got one guy a seat on the SCOTUS

[CBH1926]

5 hours ago, RRypien37 said:

Had too much leverage and black mail on some of the big boys. Was a matter of time. Still a possibility they just took him out the back door. We are talking about some of the real elite here, they have the power. Could be on an island some where chilling with Kenneth Lay by this point. 

The old Jeffrey is laying on a cold slab, just like Elvis, Tupac, Hoffa, Hitler are all dead.

 

[SabreFan1]

49 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Well in all honesty...it got one guy a seat on the SCOTUS

Then they found that multiple allegations against him were made up.  The only "she said" that came much too late to try and prove anything was of course an accusation by Ford.

 

He was a poor choice for the nomination for more reasons than just an unsubstantiated allegation made decades after the alleged incident.  Though when you consider who nominated him, it makes sense.  Though the person who came in second to Kavanaugh would have been an even worse choice.

[Canorth]

15 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

The old Jeffrey is laying on a cold slab, just like Elvis, Tupac, Hoffa, Hitler are all dead.

 

Also heard JFK was spotted in Cuba, if all places...

 

Common man...

 

The only reason those people are still swarmed with conspiracy is because they were loved. Make that case for Epstein and you might have a point....

[CBH1926]

3 minutes ago, Canorth said:

Also heard JFK was spotted in Cuba, if all places...

 

Common man...

 

The only reason those people are still swarmed with conspiracy is because they were loved. Make that case for Epstein and you might have a point....

All I know is there are already close to 50 000 comments on Breitbart about Epstein.

Man, those nuts have never seen a conspiracy they did not like.

Scary &^@#ing people!

[Sweathog]

7 hours ago, xereau said:

AG Barr has opened an investigation into the "suicide".

Didn't Epstein work for Barr's father in some capacity when he was younger? If that's true then Barr should recuse himself imo.

[CBH1926]

6 minutes ago, Sweathog said:

Didn't Epstein work for Barr's father in some capacity when he was younger? If that's true then Barr should recuse himself imo.

Epstein-Barr virus is a real thing for sure.

[Canorth]

1 hour ago, RRypien37 said:

Same as everyone else. It's quite logical to put the dots together. The day after (literally 15 hours) the news got released there would be a trial with major leaks, this happens. Egomaniacs like him don't take the easy way out. Plus it's not like he would get life. He got a 13 month "sentence" if you want to call it that, first time around. 

 

He had leverage/info/pictures/videos/information of some of the most elite in politics and business. Travelling with him, at his parties, going to his island. It's not exactly hard to figure out that these big boys weren't about to let this information get released to the public. 

 

This isn't the first time and it won't be the last. I am not even convinced he is dead. Could have very well just taken him out the back. 

 

There is a difference between being a "conspiracy theorist" vs logically and critically going through the case with the information provided. 

 

But so are the times, as soon as you question anything, it's "tinfoil hat" for you. 

It’s not logic to place the dots so it is easier to connect them to fit a narrative. That’s called manipulation of information/misinformation. Everything that you are basing this opinion on is speculation and also... speculation.

 

He was actually  looking at 40 years, minimum. At his age that is a life sentence and then some. Plenty of reason to not want to live it out, especially considering the blow back he would experience due to the nature of his crimes

 

”not even convinced he’s dead “.... He literally tried it a couple weeks ago. Was put on suicide watch then succeeded. What benefit is it to anyone to still have this POS alive? 

 

 

[Lancaster]

8 hours ago, smokes said:

All I have to say is that the person whom took him off the suicide watch list needs to be fired for lack of judgement.

Don't worry, the guy who made that decision would immediately retire, thus ending the investigation.  He'll move to some tropical location to some 20+ million dollar mansion, with a couple of Ferrari's in the garage.... to which he somehow earned with a salary of less than 6 figures.  

 

Nothing suspicious at all, move along now.