JM_ Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: He doesn't really like his girlfriend. If you're going to start a family, at least like the person that you're starting it with. yikes. Don't to that to the kids 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: yikes. Don't to that to the kids I agree. Everyone in my family are dyed in the wool Republicans so you'd think that they would be the ones with the misgivings, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: Canada does not have freedom of speech. Never has never will. If you think you do then go to Ottawa and step in front of the steps of Parliament and start spouting off what Canada considers hateful speech. You'll be detained by authorities in no time. You even have tribunals that can force you, under penalty of fines or more, to apologize for something you're not even sorry that you said. Whereas in the US, I can stand in front of the White House and say hateful things at the top of my lungs until my voice gives out or someone I insult shoots me (it is DC after all). Of course you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theatre or threaten violence or death (that's actually assault) even in the US. Freedoms aren't protected when they impinge on others lives or freedoms. Well that was kind of my point, namely that freedoms are never absolute. We Canadians perhaps think a little more deeply about what constitutes "impinging on others' lives or freedoms". As a Canadian, and an outspoken person in general, I don't feel at all limited in my freedom to speak my mind. I can and do. Go Canucks Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, nux_win said: Well that was kind of my point, namely that freedoms are never absolute. We Canadians perhaps think a little more deeply about what constitutes "impinging on others' lives or freedoms". As a Canadian, and an outspoken person in general, I don't feel at all limited in my freedom to speak my mind. I can and do. Go Canucks Go! I'm not saying Canadians will be thrown in jail to rot for life if they speak out against things like LGBTQ community initiatives, but they do risk being dragged in front of a governmental tribunal and risk fines and penalties. That would never happen in the US because our freedom of speech is iron-clad. Now there are times where you want to keep your mouth shut like at a Trump rally or you'll get smacked around and thrown out by a bunch of mouth breathers and Trump's hired security people. But at least you will never be dragged in front of a governmental board with the power to punish you. Edited August 19, 2019 by SabreFan1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: I'm not saying Canadians will be thrown in jail to rot for life if they speak out against things like LGBTQ community initiatives, but they do risk being dragged in front of a governmental tribunal and risk fines and penalties. That would never happen in the US because our freedom of speech is iron-clad. Now there are times where you want to keep your mouth shut like at a Trump rally or you'll get smacked around and thrown out by a bunch of mouth breathers and Trump's hired security people. But at least you will never be dragged in front of a governmental board with the power to punish you. Thankfully, as much as Trump would love the opposite to be true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: Thankfully, as much as Trump would love the opposite to be true. Can you imagine if he had the power to punish dissenters?! He'd do his best to turn the US into a dictatorship. Although I'd imagine most career politicians would so it isn't just Trump. He'd just likely be one of the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, SabreFan1 said: He doesn't really like his girlfriend. If you're going to start a family, at least like the person that you're starting it with. I can agree with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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