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Goldy pretty much sums it up when he admits he needs more playing time to contribute offensively.

 

the problem is when he does not get points, he doesn't add much else to justify a roster spot. Aside from 2ndPP and a top 6 spot for offense what else does he bring? PK? Bottom 6 solid checker ? Hits? 

 

Im beginning to think 2 or 3 of Baertschi, Eriksson, Goldy will be moved...:o

 

 

Miller Petey Boeser 

Pearson Horvat Virtanen 

Ferland Sutter Leivo 

Roussel Beagle Motte 

Schaller....Gaudette..Bailey.....

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Goldy thinks and processes the game quickly, his hockey IQ is built for attack and offense.

 

I like this interview as I said before his dream is the NHL not the KHL as many here post ( Russophobes mostly ), in fact he prefers Canada where he played junior over the US because of the love we share for the game.

 

It's up to coach Green to make his dream come true in Vancouver.

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 i love goldy i hope he gets another chance with us if he becomes a 30 goal scorer we are laughing  next yr if tryamkin is back watch out  this team is stacked af 

 

 big yrs for goldy and shotgun jake  

 

eriksson in utica 

 baetchi tanev sutter traded  by deadline

marky in the summer 

next season we annilate teams 

 

  ferland petey boeser

  goldy horvat miller

 pearson gaudette virtanen 

macewen beagle rousell 

leivo 

edler tryamkin

hughes myers 

juolevi stecher

 

demko

 decent back up

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1 hour ago, brownky said:

Goldobin "reminds me" a bit of Naslund actually. I have to dig back into the memory for that, but Naslund got the same kind of treatment early on, 3rd and 4th line duties and looked terrible. He got on a bit of a roll in his last year with the Pens, but he was also playing with Jagr, and later Mario Lemieux. Towards the end of the year he trailed off and wound up back on the 3rd / 4th lines and back in the press box. He was 22 at the time.

 

...Sound like anybody you know?

 

Goldy is right there. He does see and think the game at a really good level, otherwise he couldn't have worked as well with Petterson as he did. He's still very young, and I think he understands (at least as far as the interview goes) that he still needs to work hard if he wants to make it. Sounds like Green has far from given up on him, and Benning has placed a very good challenge in front with the new players. "Be better than these guys, consistently" is the challenge. The rest is up to Goldy.

 

The final nugget on the Naslund/Goldobin comparison; Naslund was 25 before he even started to "Be" good. Goldy is 23. Patience is the order on this one. I'm confident that he "will" get it one day... you can just see it. I think for him, it's a mind thing; once the maturity really starts to hit, he's gonna be lights out. The talent in there is incredible, probably on par with Petey in terms of "what he can do, on a good day".

 

I just hope we're the ones to see it.

 

 

Great comparison. Doesn't quite have the pedigree of naslund but both had a rough start to the nhl. Really hope Goldy pulls through. Such a likeable guy. I'm rooting for him. 

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The potential with Goldy is so tantalizing it's nearly impossible to give up on him entirely. I still think he has a ceiling of a 70-80 point player if he can ever put it all together. Another top line forward like that would be amazing, especially if he could play with EP and Boeser, allowing Miller to play with Bo and Sven and a great 3rd line with Ferland and Pearson.

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1 hour ago, brownky said:

Goldobin "reminds me" a bit of Naslund actually. I have to dig back into the memory for that, but Naslund got the same kind of treatment early on, 3rd and 4th line duties and looked terrible. He got on a bit of a roll in his last year with the Pens, but he was also playing with Jagr, and later Mario Lemieux. Towards the end of the year he trailed off and wound up back on the 3rd / 4th lines and back in the press box. He was 22 at the time.

 

...Sound like anybody you know?

 

Goldy is right there. He does see and think the game at a really good level, otherwise he couldn't have worked as well with Petterson as he did. He's still very young, and I think he understands (at least as far as the interview goes) that he still needs to work hard if he wants to make it. Sounds like Green has far from given up on him, and Benning has placed a very good challenge in front with the new players. "Be better than these guys, consistently" is the challenge. The rest is up to Goldy.

 

The final nugget on the Naslund/Goldobin comparison; Naslund was 25 before he even started to "Be" good. Goldy is 23. Patience is the order on this one. I'm confident that he "will" get it one day... you can just see it. I think for him, it's a mind thing; once the maturity really starts to hit, he's gonna be lights out. The talent in there is incredible, probably on par with Petey in terms of "what he can do, on a good day".

 

I just hope we're the ones to see it.

 

 

Now wouldn't that just be something... dropping a Naslund together with Podkolzin into this pool of players in two years time? 

Could see a cup coming to a city near you... 

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Goldy still has huge potential imo. I think if you want to get him going, stick him with Pettersson and Boeser for 80-85% of the season. 

 

Goldobin - Pettersson - Boeser

Miller - Horvat - Ferland

Pearson - Sutter - Virtanen/Baertschi

Roussel - Beagle - Motte

 

That top six oozes offensive potential. 

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I was expecting controversy. He seemed to say most of the right things though. Talks with the coach a lot, recognizes he needs to work on the mental game, is not a drunk, likes playing in Canada, puts the voodoo on Matheson.

 

I'll admit, I like Goldobin. I have no doubts about his offensive ability. He has made some incredible plays in his time here. Seems to be resistant to playing a two-way game but not all forwards are going to be Selke winners. I would have liked to see him given a bit more rope. He looks lost in the defensive zone though and that doesn't fly anymore in today's game. I don't see him sticking around for too much longer. I worry he'll go to another team, get slotted in on the first line, and put up a ton of points. He certainly would in the KHL.

 

I don't know, you look at the first game there. Puts up a couple points and gets stapled to the bench, playing sub 4th line time. He was relatively consistent at putting up points when playing with good players and being given the ice time. It's interesting looking at the game logs. Stretches of success filled with periods of what looks like inactivity. I think he has the tendency to lose confidence in his game. Perhaps some players do not respond well to the tough love.

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Nice and honest interview from Goldy. I think it's clear that he can generate chances with EP and Boeser, but whereas EP and Boeser finishes them, Goldy didn't bury enough of the chances that come his way. If he improves his shot, he may be able to get back to playing with EP.

 

One thing I didn't like was his quote about if he scores 30 goals, the team will overlook other things. I don't like the way that he thinks about goal scoring as a trade-off with defensive responsibilities. Sure, the team will overlook it but they won't be happy. And in the playoffs, those weaknesses get exposed.

 

As it is now, he is at the bottom of the top 6 wing depth:

 

Boeser

Miller

Ferland

Baer

Pearson

Goldy

 

Ferland, Baer, and Pearson are versatile and can move up and down the line up so it's still possible for Goldy to earn a spot. 

 

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1 hour ago, steve french said:

ink he has the tendency to lose confidence in his game. Perhaps some players do not respond well to the tough love.

One talked about Näslund earlier how hard he had it at the beginning and Goldy say the same as Dahlen talked about after Utica. Loss of confidence, afraid to do mistakes... 

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1 hour ago, Timråfan said:

 

One talked about Näslund earlier how hard he had it at the beginning and Goldy say the same as Dahlen talked about after Utica. Loss of confidence, afraid to do mistakes... 

Naslund at least didn’t shy away from contact during those stages or get rattled if targeted (hit) by another player. His skill came out later on too - because he worked on it endlessly the same way the best players in the game do.   This is one thing coaches at both levels try and help players get past (contact not affecting them and to keep working on their skills)- for Naslund it was a little easier to deal with given the era - constant hooks/holds/hits meant you wouldn’t last long if things got physical because it was all the time.  

 

Dahlen was disappointing for sure, he was a star one game I watched, and reminded me a little of Bure given similar physique and what he was doing with the puck (not the skating, although that wasn’t bad either).   I still don’t get that beyond maybe management just never saw him making it and felt it was better to pull the EP bandaid off sooner rather then later (best friend and all - why tease both guys if they never see it happening).  There was also some sentiment that Dahlen wasn’t happy because he wasn’t getting any NHL games - if that’s true then it also makes sense - players need to earn that opportunity.   Can move on from that - hopefully this Karlsson kid can make it. 

 

As far as Goldobin goes he didn’t sign the offer, and he might not get another one.   I had him in my pool last year and was overjoyed when he was a PPGer early on playing with EP...but that dried up once other teams starting zoning in on the pair - it does look like contact throws him off his game (both players actually) something that has to be  accepted and fought through for all players entering the league - the ones that survive don’t let it get to them and even encourage it.  His best route to the NHL is to persevere - a lot of other guys would love a qualifying offer and a chance to play games no matter what line the coach plays them on - not saying that you put a square peg in a round hole - but for now at least if he wants to be a Canuck he’s going to have to keep working at his game - and bide his time for his next chance to play with EP or even Horvat.   Injuries happen as do tweaking lines ... said it several times TG has the troops to make three scoring lines - and will if Sutter goes down.  Lots of room for Goldobin then.

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