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Plus, there is the thing of being able to socialise with someone who can understand you.  Being around people all the time that speak a different language, even when you are learning, helps you learn, but it is frustrating and kind of makes you feel alone.  With no relief from that, you can kind of spiral.  Not saying everyone is like that, but I think a few of the guys who've gone thru the organisation have spoken of that before.  Make sure to not only surround the player on the ice with the things that he needs to succeed, but take care of your investment off the ice as well, to a certain degree.  

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Tryamkin actually had his own interpreter. It doesn't necessarily have to be a coach.

I wondered if he didn't understand why he got sat or less minutes in certain games, why didn't he just ask about it. He also signed in the KHL 10 days after Willie was fired which leads me to believe that his family situation had a large role in his decision.

 

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One of Naslund’s rules when he was captain was an “English only” rule for the locker room to help integrate everyone, particularly the younger players.  Not sure it needs to be that formal, since the team dynamic is different nowadays but I wouldn’t go the other way either.

 

I remember people speculating that Tryamkin knew a lot more English than he let on to the media/fans. 

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On 8/31/2019 at 12:23 PM, Nurnge said:

With the Canucks apparent reversal in Drafting top quality Russians . Are there things to make the Canucks a more friendly destination for Russian players . With Glody if he sticks and the return of Tryamkin and the arrival of Podkolzin would a Russian free agent or two in the next couple years be worth more to this group now ? Is hiring a English/Russian speaking assistant coach an asset . What makes some other teams Russia Friendly ? 

actually that's  is an interesting idea , to have a Russian speaking assistant coach or skill coach, , I was reading an article about mlb, about how many Spanish speaking coaches are being hired because the culture in baseball is turning .  Latin American players now make about 50% of a roster on any given baseball team so now Spanish is spoken more in the club house than English  , and English speaking players are learning Spanish .,  the article mention other benefits  from having a coach speaking the same language as a player such as having less of grey area in coaching , a coach can have a chat with out an interpreter , understands the culture of a player .help with improving English  and  mentor  young players .  

 

sure it is easy to say hey learn English  . it would be like us trying to learn Russian 

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12 minutes ago, the grinder said:

 

 

sure it is easy to say hey learn English  . it would be like us trying to learn Russian 

If I go to Russia, I fully expect to have to learn or understand the language...it's my deal.

 

So if players don't learn English how are they to communicate with their teammates?  Seems it's important to at least try to have players fit in rather than isolating them by providing tools to enable that. 

 

Besides - the players are mostly pissy over ice time - let's keep it real here.  Not sure that it would make a difference whether they were told to sit on the bench in English or any other language.  Most young players likely find it a little weird to be away from home and adjust to a strange place.  It's not just language that makes something foreign....it's being apart from family and things that are familiar. 

 

But this league isn't meant to be "easy".  Survival of the fittest.  Mentally too.  If players are showing signs of being demanding or having expectations beyond just playing the game in a league they've been chosen for, not sure we should pave the way for that.   There are plenty of others waiting in the wings for the opportunity.  

 

They get compensated (well) in this deal and can certainly afford to hire some extra help if they require it. 

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4 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said:

If I go to Russia, I fully expect to have to learn or understand the language...it's my deal.

 

So if players don't learn English how are they to communicate with their teammates?  Seems it's important to at least try to have players fit in rather than isolating them by providing tools to enable that. 

 

Besides - the players are mostly pissy over ice time - let's keep it real here.  Not sure that it would make a difference whether they were told to sit on the bench in English or any other language.  Most young players likely find it a little weird to be away from home and adjust to a strange place.  It's not just language that makes something foreign....it's being apart from family and things that are familiar. 

 

But this league isn't meant to be "easy".  Survival of the fittest.  Mentally too.

lol read my post   I also said to help improve English as well  . yep it would make it easier for a younger player to adapt and learn if a coach spoke the same language , ok how long would it take you to learn Russian then  ?  lets see u learn Russian and answer stupid  media question in Russian  lol

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3 minutes ago, the grinder said:

lol read my post   I also said to help improve English as well  . yep it would make it easier for a younger player to adapt and learn if a coach spoke the same language , ok how long would it take you to learn Russian then  ?  lets see u learn Russian and answer stupid  media question in Russian  lol

So a player gets his own coach?   What if every player had things that would be "easier" if they had their own coach?  

 

Again...it would be MY responsibility to deal with the language barrier.  These guys choose to come here...no one's forcing them.   If I was going to Russia for a job that paid big bucks I'd likely hire someone to help me.  I wouldn't expect that provisions would be in place just for me.

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1 hour ago, RWMc1 said:

Tryamkin actually had his own interpreter. It doesn't necessarily have to be a coach.

I wondered if he didn't understand why he got sat or less minutes in certain games, why didn't he just ask about it. He also signed in the KHL 10 days after Willie was fired which leads me to believe that his family situation had a large role in his decision.

 

This.

 

I doubt that having a coach that spoke Russian would have mattered.  He wasn't getting the ice time he wanted.  He was newly married and his bride was back home.  

 

 

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7 minutes ago, the grinder said:

lol read my post   I also said to help improve English as well  . yep it would make it easier for a younger player to adapt and learn if a coach spoke the same language , ok how long would it take you to learn Russian then  ?  lets see u learn Russian and answer stupid  media question in Russian  lol

Did you know Podkolzin takes English lesson three days a week?  That kid is driven to not only play here, but be the best when he gets here.  

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18 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said:

So a player gets his own coach?   What if every player had things that would be "easier" if they had their own coach?  

 

Again...it would be MY responsibility to deal with the language barrier.  These guys choose to come here...no one's forcing them.   If I was going to Russia for a job that paid big bucks I'd likely hire someone to help me.  I wouldn't expect that provisions would be in place just for me.

lol  again I said it wouldn't be a bad idea to try, did I say his own coach? no if he speaks Russian and English  he would coach in English too  , therefore it wouldn't be his special coach ;  ya so if it makes it a easier to adapt  quicker why not,  maybe a player is trying to learn and having some difficulties.

,  if a company hires you and knows you don't speak a language . you don't think that company wouldn't make provisions for you or at least try to assist you to make you more comfortable in a foreign setting  .   

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I think the red wings proved its a benefit to have other Russians on the team.....after the red army days....a few of the Russians didn't adjust well and then the wings took a chance and brought what five of them in and iir they won a cup with them. 

Its like a tour guide when you go to Spain or any country it helps big time and makes it easier to learn the language and having  acouple people that speak the same language helps big time and also makes it easier to learn cause your not the only one going threw it. 

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On 8/31/2019 at 12:23 PM, Nurnge said:

With the Canucks apparent reversal in Drafting top quality Russians . Are there things to make the Canucks a more friendly destination for Russian players . With Glody if he sticks and the return of Tryamkin and the arrival of Podkolzin would a Russian free agent or two in the next couple years be worth more to this group now ? Is hiring a English/Russian speaking assistant coach an asset . What makes some other teams Russia Friendly ? 

If anything maybe just a translator\english teacher

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I don't think an assistant coach tips the balance for Russian players, it has more to do with life and community outside the rink. A great example is Panarin (and other Russians before him) wanting to go to the tri-state area because there are apparently 1.6 million Russian Americans living there, it's a veritable home away from home.

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