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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Myers has looked really good so far hasn’t he?  

For now yes, but once he's gone and starts making mistakes in the regular season, he'll be the new whipping boy.  People already commenting on how his contract is an overpayment, eventhough he got only a little bit more than his last contract AAV wise.

 

Some fans tend to look at contract amounts and what you do for that contract instead of just looking at the player and what he brings skill wise.  That's one of the main reasons LE is getting so much hate.  If he was paid 1-2 million, not many would be complaining.

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27 minutes ago, Dombrova22 said:

All of you saying Gaudette is ' for sure utica bound ' are in for a big surprise. The kid has played amazing so far, and if he keeps it up and doesn't slow down, he will have a lock on the opening night roster. 

I agree that he has been amazing, but for asset management he needs to go down until a trade is made. 

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1 hour ago, Off_The_Schneid! said:

 

Biega waived and clears; they won’t waive Fantengerg after just signing him as a free agent he will be in the press box as our extra defenceman 

 

 

I’m pretty sure Fantenberg plays both sides too. So he’s the ideal 7th d-man that way

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7 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

I am really torn on some of the scenario's, but I think it turns out this way. (Start of Season)

 

Ferland     Pettersson      Boeser                               Edler       Myers                             Markstrom

Baertschi      Horvat         Miller                                 Hughes   Tanev                              Demko

Pearson        Sutter         Eriksson                             Benn      Stecher  

Leivo            Beagle        Virtanen                                Fantenberg

          Motte          Goldobin

 

Waived for Utica: Schaller and Biega

 

Here is the Line Up once Roussel is game ready (Nov. 15th without Injuries)

 

Ferland     Pettersson      Boeser                               Edler       Myers                             Markstrom

Baertschi      Horvat         Miller                                 Hughes   Tanev                              Demko

Roussel        Sutter         Eriksson                             Benn      Stecher  

Pearson       Beagle        Virtanen                                Fantenberg

          Motte          Leivo

                 Goldobin

 

Here is the line Up after the TDL

 

Ferland     Pettersson      Boeser                               Edler         Myers                            Markstrom

Pearson      Horvat          Miller                                  Hughes     Benn                              Demko

Roussel      Gaudette       Eriksson                            Tryamkin    Stecher  

Leivo          Beagle          * Virtanen                                   Brisebois

          Motte          Goldobin

 

Possible Players Moved (Traded)

 

Tanev...………..Tanev will become expendable if either Tryamkin signs or one of Brisebois/Juolevi play lights out. Benn plays well on the RHD. 

Sutter...………..No doubt Sutter is a stronger player than Gaudette, but short of Eriksson being traded, Benning has to clear cap

Baertschi...……Baertschi needs to win his spot in the next 3 pre-season games. Pearson/Horvat/Miller is a heavy line and designed for the Playoffs

*Virtanen...……"IF" Virtanen does not pick it up, and "IF" Benning feels there is someone to take his spot (Sutter?McEwen?)

                         Jake is gone while he still has value. Jake is playing himself off the team, as it gets better. His give a $&!# factor is in question! We shall see!

                         But, who in our system is better than Jake, long term? (3rd line..no one, 4th line...maybe McEwen?)

Fantenberg…...Too much LHD talent to stick long term....great injury filler for someone.....I think Brisebois really surprised

 

Players NHL Ready

 

Gaudette...……Gaudette was an offensive star in College and he will be kept down to give him the minutes, but he is showing well. He could be kept as a RW

                         But, IMO he has shown his whole career he can play Center. Time will tell if that is true. But he is NHL ready, that is for sure! Long term, it would

                         be nice if he could improve his FO's and defensive play a little, as I see him as our 3rd line center of the future. Gotta be better in the FO circle!

 

Brisebois...…...Brisebois, just looks so calm. He is a keeper, that is for sure. He is making me forget about getting Juolevi up asap, as quite frankly, he is better

                        at this time. IMO, Brisebois, shows why the AHL is a great place to develop.

 

McEwen...…….McEwen, has not made a big statemen, I was hoping for in pre-season, but then again, why would you expect a 4th liner to do that? He is a big

                         body, with some solid skills, and puts in a strong effort every game. Jake should watch out for this guy

 

Juolevi...……...Olli needs a break! And a whole season of success. IMO, he needs to stay down the season and be the "everything" player, he has the ability to

                        be. IMO, Olli has the skills to be up, but not the reps. With Brisebois and Fanenberg already ahead of him, not to mention the possibility of 

                        Tryamkin's return. What is the rush?

 

Tryamkin...…...Well? So, as much as I trumpet his return, it is far from being a sure thing. "IF" he comes back, he will make the Canuck defense, ominous, and

                        certainly playoff ready. Sadly, I wonder how the Canucks will be able to keep him, if he does come back, as I am not sure he is Expansion Draft

                        safe. But man, you have to admit, Edler, Myers, Benn, and Tryamkin, would scare the hell out of most forwards. 

 

Prospects to watch this year

 

DiPietro...…….He is young, but I do not think he will be a NHL goalie (Sorry!) but he has the talent, just not the size. In saying that, players like him have had to 

                        fight their whole life to prove themselves.....DiPietro has done that. Here is to hoping I am wrong.

 

Rathbone...…..Well, he played with Fox last year, and showed very well. Let's see what he has when he is the top dog. I have a nagging question with Rathbone

                        Which is, being that Fox did not sign with his draft club and with the apparent depth at LHD that the Canucks have, will he even sign with us? I am 

                        hoping for big things with him this year, but I see him as a trading chip if he does. (Call me crazy!) Things change, let's see what happens.

 

Madden...…….Great motor, smart, with great instincts. He will be interesting to watch. I hope he puts on some weight. He had a great first year, in the NCAA

                        I hope he keeps on building on it, he could be our 3rd line center, if Gaudette moves to wing.....nice to have choices!

 

Lind...…………Second year pro, that finished off last season much better. I think he looked great in our camps and pre-season. If he can continue his development

                        and get a center to play with, I think he is a player you might see in 2 years. I have more faith in him than most. But I also know, that as long as this

                        year has more improvement, that he has a chance. There is nothing wrong with a player taking 3/4 years to develop in the AHL.

 

Woo...…...…….I am hoping he keeps on developing his offense. Last year, he just was not that far behind Montreal's Josh Brooks, who played on the U-20 National

                         Team. I am hoping to see Jet, keep on developing. I thought he had a great development camp. A lot of hopes are pinned on him.

 

 

Podkolzon and Hoglander………...both high end, skilled players...…...there is a lot to be excited about with these 2. Both will create a lot of discussion this year.

 

Keppen and Focht……….I think Benning picked another couple of gems...….will be fun to see if they develop as they progress...…...consider them Bonus's

 

 

 

 

 

                 

 

Thanks for the insight into prospects. Worth the read.

I agree with your assessment of likely starting lineup and post Roussel return lineup.

Also hopeful about a triumphant Tryamkin return for a playoff run.  Wondering if it would be wise to trade Sutter at the deadline if he's healthy.  Faceoffs and the ensuing potential for puck possession can be the difference for a successful playoffs and as you stated, Sutter is a stronger player than Gaudette. Nice to have depth and options though.

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3 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

LOL....I love you man! No Holds barred! LOL

 

Look, and I say this respectfully, in a perfect world, I would not have Eriksson here, but that is because his Pay and play do not match......

Is he an Offensive weapon.....no! But as you pointed put his PK and defensive stats are acceptable...……..

The truth is, it will cost too much to get rid of him, and he does provide an veteran presence, which is good to have on a team

I am no way claiming him as the second coming of Burrows or anyone for that matter, I think I am just stating the obvious reality...…….

He will be here for the rest of the year...……...now, if Benning finds a way to get rid of him, that doesn't cost too much...……..

I am all for it!

But in the mean time, a line of Roussel, Sutter and Eriksson, I believe would be very hard to play against

Which is why I put him there...……..

If we send him to Utica he will retire. Perhaps a team grabs him for nothing on waivers,. That’s fine too.

Let Leivo, Guadette, Goldobrin or Bartschi  pencil in...  and keep a clear message about having the clear ability to earn your way on to an NHL team, and not let your salary or history 4 years ago dictate the privilege to.

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57 minutes ago, Viper007 said:

For now yes, but once he's gone and starts making mistakes in the regular season, he'll be the new whipping boy.  People already commenting on how his contract is an overpayment, eventhough he got only a little bit more than his last contract AAV wise.

 

Some fans tend to look at contract amounts and what you do for that contract instead of just looking at the player and what he brings skill wise.  That's one of the main reasons LE is getting so much hate.  If he was paid 1-2 million, not many would be complaining.

His contract gives him an advantage. The coach and GM wants him to work out so he gets a free pass. If he was making 1-2 mill he would be a bubble player like Motte or Schaller

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There are a number of factors which could lead to LE's demotion:

 

- To show owners are all-in, irrespective of cost

-  Gotta' earn your pay grade, it tells every player/prospect(action louder than words)

-  Don't go cryin' to press to try & force change from the outside. a lowly Kesler-tactic that don't go over well

-  Team needs speed & toughness(pack-mentality), this guy offers neither

 

...& in keeping AG up it encourages College prospects(Like Rathbone & Madden) you'll be given a real fair shake if you sign when the team thinks time is right.

 

So I'd contend there are a host of reasons Loui gets the bus ticket..it might even encourage him to accept trade to anywhere(no restrictions) if they have a possible landing spot, he might have rather avoided.

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1 hour ago, Viper007 said:

For now yes, but once he's gone and starts making mistakes in the regular season, he'll be the new whipping boy.  People already commenting on how his contract is an overpayment, eventhough he got only a little bit more than his last contract AAV wise.

 

Some fans tend to look at contract amounts and what you do for that contract instead of just looking at the player and what he brings skill wise.  That's one of the main reasons LE is getting so much hate.  If he was paid 1-2 million, not many would be complaining.

If Eriksson was getting paid 1-2 m per he would have been waived today.  It’s only his contract that is giving him the longetivity to compete for a spot right now...    so by your  account of this situation he shouldn’t be here.

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1 hour ago, Off_The_Schneid! said:

Seems pretty obvious ;

 

gaudette sent to utica; first call up when a center gets injured 

 

goldobin traded or waived; hasn’t showed any improvements from last year playing against AHL players in pre season 

 

Macewen sent to utica 

 

schailer waived 

 

Biega waived and clears; they won’t waive Fantengerg after just signing him as a free agent he will be in the press box as our extra defenceman 

 

ferland Petterson boeser

baertshi/Pearson horvat  Miller 

Baertshi/Pearson Sutter Leivo

Ericcson beagle Virtanen 

(motte) 

 

edler myers 

hughes Tanev 

Benn Stetcher 

(fantenberg) 

 

 

Don’t you get 1 more player? the final roster size is 23. Goldolbin might stick around for awhile instead of Biega. 

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