stanleypuck Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) My back recently gave out and a few people I know said I should see a chiropractor or a doctor. Like they don't even receive real training:https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2019/08/19/545-million-per-year-wasnt-enough-for-chiropractors-now-theyre-lobbying-for-much-more/ No offence, but I don't consider chiropractors as "doctors". More like alternative medicinal people . . . That said, my friends who did go for chiropractor clinics only have positive things to say about them. Good thing they had some good rap music playing. Which is rare to be honest. So my choice is pay more and go to a chiropractor (Private faster treatment) or pay almost 50% less and go to a medical doctor and deal with the current waiting list, etc. Has anyone here used chiropractors before? Thx! Edited December 25, 2019 by stanleypuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Your what gave out ? go to a physiotherapist for proper rehabilitation of an injury. chiropractors have a place in alternative medicine, the only thing I get done there is cold laser therapy which in itself is not proven to be effective 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I torqued my hip once tubing - after about 4 weeks of Chiropractic treatment - my hip was back in place. The only thing I don't like about chiropractors is - they try to sell you on "maintenance". Yes, I get it - it's a business and they would like to have regular clients providing a more constant revenue stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Better off going to a physiotherapist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 https://performancechiro.ca/chiropractor-or-physiotherapist/ Chiropractor or Physiotherapist? MARCH 23, 2018 BY DR-TODD0 2 When you are suffering any sort of muscle or joint pain, it can be difficult to know what kind of treatment you need. Many patients often ask the differences between chiropractic and physiotherapy. How do you know the difference between a Chiropractor + Physiotherapist? There can be quite a bit of overlap between the two professions. Both chiropractors and physiotherapists aim to treat joints and musculoskeletal problems to decrease pain, correct movement, increase strength and help return you to full function. However, like many other disciplines, there is a wide spectrum of treatment styles in both chiropractic and physiotherapy. It is important to not put the entire profession in a box after seeing one professional. The core difference between the two is that a chiropractor use joint manipulation, where a physiotherapist will more commonly use mobilization techniques. What is meant by Chiropractic manipulation? Chiropractors use their hands to adjust the joints of your spine and limbs where signs of restricted movement are found. A chiropractor can use a grade 5 manipulation (a high velocity, low amplitude thrust) while a physiotherapist are often limited to grades 1-4 (low velocity, lesser amplitudes). The beauty of a grade 5 manipulation is that it often allows for instantaneous improvement in range of motion and pain relief! Adjusting a joint can help restore the normal range of motion and also acts upon a pain receptor to help relieve pain (pain gate theory). Every year there is more research supporting the benefits of chiropractic manipulation. A common misconception is that you may need to continually keep coming back to a chiropractor to keep out of pain. This is definitely not the case, especially here at Performance Chiropractic. We are movement specialists, and hone in on how to change your movement, rehab your injury and make permanent positive changes! But if you like most of us here at the clinic, you enjoy an active lifestyle where injuries unfortunately happen (or maybe you’re trying to become more active but pain is in the way) and we are here to help you keep doing what you love. Chiropractors treat acute and chronic low back and neck pain, sciatica, neck related and tension headaches, sports injuries and extremity joint conditions. At Performance Chiropractic + Sports Rehab we use Active Release Therapy to treat soft tissue injures. Active Release Therapy is similar to an active, moving type of massage. If your back or joints feel locked, stiff, and sore or maybe haven’t responded to other treatments, then a consultation with a chiropractor is recommended. Muscle tears or post-surgery problems are more commonly treated by physiotherapists as well as joint and muscular problems which are restricting movement and causing pain. The first priority is to just get yourself examined professionally and your practitioner will advise which treatment is best for your condition – and refer you accordingly. Both Chiropractors and physio-therapists will also give exercises and advice to help manage injuries and medical conditions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Canucks Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Honestly only go to a chiropractor that has your best interest in mind. Otherwise physiotherapist. Use a physician as a last resort. They will just say to rest and here is some pills for the pain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Heretic said: I torqued my hip once tubing - after about 4 weeks of Chiropractic treatment - my hip was back in place. The only thing I don't like about chiropractors is - they try to sell you on "maintenance". Yes, I get it - it's a business and they would like to have regular clients providing a more constant revenue stream. This. Chiropractors are good if you need to get some adjustments for small subluxation ( stuff outta place) etc.. But as mentioned, I would go to Physio for rehab and put the work in. Stretching, resistance, patience ....all that. I also found Shiatsu massage a benefit for my past issues.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I think you answered your own question in the title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Physiotherapist. Manipulations have zero scientific backing. Physio's can provide the same joint mobilizations chiropractors can. Chiropractors are great for necks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 It's similar to any profession -- there are good and bad. You can go to a lawyer who doesn't have a clue, or likewise find a genius mechanic who can fix things others can't. Best is to get referrals, find out who actually understands his trade and gets results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: This. Chiropractors are good if you need to get some adjustments for small subluxation ( stuff outta place) etc.. But as mentioned, I would go to Physio for rehab and put the work in. Stretching, resistance, patience ....all that. I also found Shiatsu massage a benefit for my past issues.. Stuff doesn't really go out of place in the body. Chiro is good for short term pain relief...but I don't consider them doctors or medical specialists. They're more akin to massage therapists except they crack your back. Good for short term pain relief, but not somebody I'd trust to actually get to the cause of the pain if something is actually wrong in the joint/body. No amount of spinal manipulation is going to diagnose or repair a torn labrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Stuff doesn't really go out of place in the body. This Statement is so wrong I don't know where to begin. First off the exact opposite of what you just posted is basically the definition of a hernia. Maybe you are referring to the Skeletal system of the body though but would likewise be just as wrong as many things can be out of place, hips, ribs, spinal vertebrae are some of the most common. If you don't believe me, not sure why you wouldn't then you can check out this video and the ask yourself if stuff was out of place in this guy's body (not endorsing the treatment method just saying that stuff does go out of place): 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoork Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) My ex wife is a chiropractor, and even though we're divorced, I will always go to her 1st if my back or neck is feeling "out" of whack. A good chiropractor can do wonders for tension headaches, neck pain, pinched sciatic nerves and the like. They can fix more than just backs, and can refer you to a specialist if they suspect you have a torn labrum or whatever. I don't think of them as alternative medicine at all - more so as specialists in skeletal problems. A doctor would probably just give you pain killers. If it is more muscular, then a physio therapist would be the better option. And like someone said above, there are good ones and bad ones in any of these professions. Edited September 5, 2019 by Agoork 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Almost impossible to find a real evidence based chiropractor as the entire basis of the profession is based on magic. I think you know this based on your question. Anecdotal stories from friends doesn't hold a lot of real sway. I have a friend right now who swears by CBD oil because it helped her mother beat cancer. She is course is ignoring the rounds of chemo and radiation that was happening at the same time. I have another friend who promotes Chinese Medicine as it helped her infertility... I know that she had IVF via egg donor to conceive... but she credits the herbal tea she was given for it working. People lie, people are dumb, people believe what they want to believe, people suffer from the Dunning Kruger effect where they read something online and decide they know more than a medical professional who has spent decades studying the issue. Having said all that, there are plenty of actual doctors who are terrible at science as well. There is a tendency to take what they have learned as rote and completely lack curiosity and are not great diagnosticians. It can put folks in a tough spot, but my end result is that even though real medicine sometimes fails and is $&!#ty, resorting to "alternative" medicine with no science behind it is always worse. My car sometimes breaks down, but I don't go out and buy a magic carpet instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Stuff doesn't really go out of place in the body. I'm sure I was told the problem with my back was...subluxation, but I guess the modern term is now Joint dysfunction? Gotcha, not really out of place?.. 16 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Chiro is good for short term pain relief...but I don't consider them doctors or medical specialists. They're more akin to massage therapists except they crack your back. Good for short term pain relief, but not somebody I'd trust to actually get to the cause of the pain if something is actually wrong in the joint/body. No amount of spinal manipulation is going to diagnose or repair a torn labrum. Agreed. I used to injure back in my early 20's...touring drummer, lots of bad postures when packing my kit into the van. Got back into Karate in my late 20's and strengthened up my core, as mentions Shiatsu massage was great for me. Haven't had issues in forever. Although my wife has done physio, dry needling, massage for a sciatica-like issue without much success. Chrio seems to be giving her the most relief lately... Edited September 5, 2019 by bishopshodan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, NucksPatsFan said: Physiotherapist. Manipulations have zero scientific backing. Physio's can provide the same joint mobilizations chiropractors can. Chiropractors are great for necks. I agree with this statement. I went to my chiro for lower back pain. I still have back pain (less than before), but my neck pain (work related) is gone completely. I rarely get headaches anymore, unless it's a fever or something. Chiro is still very useful, but probably not really worth the cost. Most places charges like 30-50 bucks per adjustment, and it's like 5-10 mins of actual work. Whereas for acupuncture it's like a hour for like 50 bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Swedish massage. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhdlois Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I have been to both (many times on different occasions). I have had the best and most resolution going to an osteopath. Very gentle manipulations, if you can even call it that, and it gets to the root cause of the problem. I will never go back to a chiro or physio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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