[Signing] Jets re-sign Josh Morrissey

[Warhippy]

9 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

interesting idea, I could see this if WPG is out of the playoff picture this year. 

Ekblad, Yandle...stralman....

 

Not exactly a barn burning defence back there yet.

 

Say January or Feb comes that's a potential bite for the cats for sure if they can make the room, pro rated is one thing but they're site to the cap as of this moment in time with some large under performers

[JeremyCuddles]

Great deal for the Peg. Props to Morrissey for not nickel and diming? Feel like he’s worth a bit more especially over 8 years.

[Provost]

That is a great deal... different positions, but I don’t think Boeser is that much more valuable a player.

 

It makes a long term $7 million deal seem much more in the ballpark. Let’s see if other RFAs start to blink in the next few days.  Word is Provorov is close too.

Edited September 12, 2019 by Provost

[PhillipBlunt]

7 minutes ago, Provost said:

That is a great deal... different positions, but I don’t think Boeser is that much more valuable a player.

 

It makes a long term $7 million deal seem much more in the ballpark. Let’s see if other RFAs start to blink in the next few days.  Word is Provorov is close too.

e4!

[Borvat]

The other real beauty of this deal if CapFriendly is correct is that it is Base Salary and Not Bonus loaded.  Seems odd with the potential work stoppage possible and all the other recent contracts heavily bonus laden.  Maybe this will be incorrect.  If not very nicely done.  Maybe the stupid will stop and Brock will be signed soon.

 

[JeremyCuddles]

43 minutes ago, Borvat said:

The other real beauty of this deal if CapFriendly is correct is that it is Base Salary and Not Bonus loaded.  Seems odd with the potential work stoppage possible and all the other recent contracts heavily bonus laden.  Maybe this will be incorrect.  If not very nicely done.  Maybe the stupid will stop and Brock will be signed soon.

 

It is indeed a very unusual contract. Not overpaid, no bonuses, and the 8 year term. Morrissey gave them the Dan Hamhuis contract (Hammer had 6 years but was a UFA so it's kinda close). It's a very team friendly deal imo.

[Provost]

1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said:

e4!

https://www.tsn.ca/philadelphia-flyers-ivan-provorov-working-hard-to-finalize-deal-1.1364308

[PhillipBlunt]

1 minute ago, Provost said:

https://www.tsn.ca/philadelphia-flyers-ivan-provorov-working-hard-to-finalize-deal-1.1364308

e5!

[theo5789]

4 hours ago, aGENT said:

Could just as easily be Laine... And I'm assuming BUF would need to add either way - 'Risto +...'

I made a suggestion before that Laine should be dealt for Risto and Reinhart. Fills a couple of needs for Winnipeg in RD depth and 2nd line center. I absolutely think Winnipeg should trade Laine over Connor though.

[Canuck Surfer]

5 hours ago, Warhippy said:

That's actually not a terrible deal at all and for all 8 years no less.

 

Myers also hit 31 points last year is 29 and at 5 years older than him being only 250k cheaper makes this just such a beauty deal for the Jets

Very interesting.  Fair IMO.

 

Pays him big dollars, $8 mill, and then declines as Morrisey would naturally be declining.

 

As to Myers comparisons?  Morrisey is better.  But is getting paid $8 mill now... Not the $6.2mill AAV.  Morrisey may have sold off some potential value in the years where he is Myers current age?  At that time he will be making $4.8 mill. With inflation, its probably safe to say those are discounted years?

 

In return for the $50 mill guaranteed contract.  $8 mill is, however, probably generous for a defensive D. Who else, Vlassic, who's primary value is on the defensive side of the puck gets a $50 mill contract?

4 hours ago, aGENT said:

Could just as easily be Laine... And I'm assuming BUF would need to add either way - 'Risto +...'

If it was Connor they would have to pay a lot. His speed is an un-guardable weapon.  So too can be Laine as a goal scorer, but there is plenty left on the table in regard to his game & attitude. But his 18 goals in November is too much potential to sell inexpensively.

 

Risto is not as big a dumpster fire sell off as you imagine. Its my opinion, but would bet the house he's not going to be sold for peanuts.

 

He played 24 min 38 seconds average time on ice last season. He's 6'4'' & scored 40 points the last 4 years.   Short list any D who scored 40 points each of the last 4 years? Short list 24 plus minute D men, and 6'4'' ones who can skate. It will be a short list. He's worth more than you think.

 

Not saying there are not holes in his game.  Not saying the Sabre's have not given themselves RHD, PMD's no less, options who could handle some of his scoring. The strength he brings without some of the weakness. I would still suggest Bogosian is odd man out.  By natural attrition next summer. But if Risto would command, even with a decent throw in on the Sabres behalf, either Laine or Connor?  It would emphasize that he did have value. And you would make the deal if you were Buffalo. Trade from strength, gain the scoring & speed up front!

 

In a potential deal, I would suggest Ehlers is both more expendable. Especially if the Jets view Vesalainen as ready. But a nice match, a closer match value wise than Connor or Laine. Ehlers a very good player himself, but knocked down the depth chart by the immaculate Connor.

[aGENT]

1 minute ago, Canuck Surfer said:

Risto is not as big a dumpster fire sell off as you imagine. Its my opinion, but would bet the house he's not going to be sold for peanuts.

 

He played 24 min 38 seconds average time on ice last season. He's 6'4'' & scored 40 points the last 4 years.   Short list any D who scored 40 points each of the last 4 years? Short list 24 plus minute D men, and 6'4'' ones who can skate. It will be a short list. He's worth more than you think.

I'm been one of the bigger proponents for US acquiring Risto. I'm well aware of what he is and completely agree he's not the 'dumpster fire' some like to paint him as.

 

But you're not getting Laine for Risto straight up.

[Canuck Surfer]

8 minutes ago, aGENT said:

I'm been one of the bigger proponents for US acquiring Risto. I'm well aware of what he is and completely agree he's not the 'dumpster fire' some like to paint him as.

 

But you're not getting Laine for Risto straight up.

 

11 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

But if Risto would command, even with a decent throw in on the Sabres behalf, either Laine or Connor?  It would emphasize that he did have value. And you would make the deal if you were Buffalo. Trade from strength, gain the scoring & speed up front!

Yeah I agree.  Connor and Laine are top line wingers on virtually any team in the league. You would make it if you were Buffalo, Winnipeg? Probably not!

 

In a perfect world Risto is one of the better top 4 D you could grab as an asset.  Top pair & top minutes on Buffalo recently, because it was, well, Buffalo. Would he command Ehlers?

 

Probably still needs a throw in.  @Monty ?  

[Monty]

2 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said:

 

Yeah I agree.  Connor and Laine are top line wingers on virtually any team in the league. You would make it if you were Buffalo, Winnipeg? Probably not!

 

In a perfect world Risto is one of the better top 4 D you could grab as an asset.  Top pair & top minutes on Buffalo recently, because it was, well, Buffalo. Would he command Ehlers?

 

Probably still needs a throw in.  @Monty ?  

Gross. Gross on all fronts. Buffalo can live and die with Risto. 

 

People like to crap on Laine, because of his draft position and one down year. But in context to two other current Jets superstars, he’s done more in his first three seasons combined than Scheifele and Wheeler did in the NHL by their 21st birthday, combined. The guy had one down year and he’s still incredibly young. 

 

Also, if it wasn’t apparent in my first tiny paragraph, Risto is garbage. There’s a reason he hasn’t garnered a return of Connor, Laine, or Ehlers (Ehlers is by far the most complete 2 way player of the 3, as he’s defensively responsible). He’s not worth it. And the “throw in” the Sabres would have to do to make Chevy consider it is something I don’t think they currently want to (ie: Reinhart). And even then, I’d much rather have Laine and/or Connor over Reinhart and Risto while losing one of those two.

 

I cannot state how much I dislike Risto’s game. As a former goalie, I would hate to have that guy play in front of me. Especially considering, while I like Hellebuyck, he is not an elite goaltender who steals games. He needs trustworthy, defensively sound players in front of him.