Chris12345 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I know one thing - regardless of the outcome I won't fall asleep before the third....and that is amazing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phat Fingers Posted September 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2019 10 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Looks pretty damn good so far, although there are a few things that are still up in the air. - Drafting Podkolzin, Hoglander, Keppen, Focht, Silovs, Plasek, Malone, McDonough and Costmar. Looks decent, although I'm not nearly as sold on Podkolzin as most others on this board. If he pans out as a top 6, then great. However, my worry is that he doesn't have the offensive upside to be a top 6 player and winds up topping out as a 3rd liner. Draft is obviously still up in the air, so we'll see. - Signing Edler for 2 years at 6 mill per. Big win however you slice it. - JT Miller trade. We definitely gave up a lot, but we received a very good player in return. A legitimate top 6 player in his mid 20s with a good attendance record that can play all 3 forward positions and play with a bit of snarl as well. I'll reserve judgement for now, but Miller definitely makes the team better. - Myers signing for 5 years at 6 mill per. Pretty costly signing, but should solidify our right side pretty well, and the contract could have been a lot worse (remember 7x7?). Not a full no trade either. Had it been the suspected 7x7 I would have considered it a loss, but as it stands, I'll reserve judgement. - Signing Ferland. 3.5 mill for 4 years is a pretty solid contract, especially for a player like Ferland that can produce and throw the body. Concussion issues are a concern, but he hasn't missed a significant amount of time due to concussion issues yet, so hopefully he can stay relatively healthy. Would have preferred 3 years, but I'll give this a win. - Failing to move Eriksson. Probably the only outright loss. It would have been nice to get at least part of his 6 mill off the books. - Boeser contract. While we didn't get him locked up long term, this contract should work out pretty well for both sides. I'll consider it a win. Podz is a can't miss guy. Whether he can turn into a top six player is valid. Looking at his start this year, the KHL is the league of hard knocks. No special treatment. Podz has endless compete and motor. Things that go a long way into becoming an NHLer. At 10 and beyond, there are no sure bets. Myers received a 9% raise. That's it. The term is decent, he isn't waiver protected and has a contract that is fair. His a RHD to boot. He didn't get overpaid. He still has to go out and earn the money. Dido for Edler. Two top 4 d men with size and ability. Neither player handcoffs the team in any way. Ferland. His injuries can be a problem. We have 3 guys this year with some questionable ability to be healthy. Baer, Rousell and Ferland. All left wings. At least we have depth!. As for Ferland, doubt he signs for 3.5 if he was healthy last year. But if a gamble, but if he gets hurt, cap relief thru ltir. Boeser's deal is the right fit for both sides. It's done. 3 years from now, Ep40 and Hughes will be on their second terms, so the deck should be cleared to sign Brock. A big anchor contract comes off the books in 3 years too, plus the Luongo recapture penalty. Look its found money. Eriksson is a hot mess. Retrospect, no one wants him. Can't trade him, his isn't doing enough to stay in the line up... IMO time to waive him and let the chips fall where they may. With Brock signed, Eriksson didn't hurt the team this year, but next? With the bloated contact, we will get cap relief with any injury, so it shouldn't be a problem for now. Maybe he bounces back. Even then, no one will take him with his full price tag. The failure was 3 years ago. I liked the deal then and I don't think anyone saw how dreadful he would be at producing. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Best off-season since bringing in Hamhuis, Ballard, and Malholtra 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanIsleNuckFan Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 10:15 PM, bloodycanuckleheads said: Don't forget... Everyone here thought 2018 was a smashing success - until it wasn't. And everyone here thought the 2017 signings were a smashing success - until they weren't. And 2016, well let's not even mention 2016... If you think in terms of where we were and how we improved and what we were striving for, I'd say those years were success'.. You can't get to this 2019-2020 season without the work done in those previous years. Gillis kept building this team for right now and kept finding himself behind the 8 ball.. JB keeps building this team for the future and it's starting to help us in the now. I felt like compared to last year we just needed to add a couple of things..In a perfect world, the roster looks exactly like it looks right now.. I couldn't be more excited! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 It was actually a great off season for jimbo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silky mitts Posted September 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2019 What I am most excited about personally is that horvat finally has two legitimate wingers in miller and pearson to play alongside. I expect a big year from them all . 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RogersTowell Posted September 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2019 The draft picks look pretty solid. It's always hard to say how they pan out in the end, but so far so good. Hoglander is putting up EP like numbers in the SHL (small sample size - 2 games 2 points). Pods is having a slow start in the K although he looked great in international play last year - we'll have to see if he continues to develop as projected. That projection is pretty damned good based on previous years. The rest are long shots, but like Gaudette, you never know what you have until you know. In terms of additions to the team over the summer, and his choices of who to re-sign and who not to, I think JB was bang on. Edler 2x6 is very good. Eddie has been trending up again and was as close to a #1 d as we had last year. Adding Myers to that mix was a great signing. The kid is big, skates very well, moves the puck, makes good decisions and has a terrific wing span that he uses well to disrupt the opposition. He is what we hoped and more from Gudbranson, who really bombed here. Myers just might be a top pairing D. We now have 8 d men who can play in the league and have probably 8 more who can come up if needed, although they need more AHL seasoning to be fully NHL ready. Rafferty and Teves were nice surprises and look like they might one day be solid NHLers if they can polish their game a bit (in the way Hutton never quite managed). Miller is a solid top 6 player. He fills a hole in the roster that nobody was ready to fill yet and that makes him worth the trade. Ferland has questions regarding long term durability but could be a great addition if thing go well (is this even possible in Canuck land?). We haven't had much luck with gritty hard checking forwards lately. Benn was a good deal, but lets not get carried away. He's a stay at home bottom pairing guy who has some push back and plays with an edge. Definitely an upgrade on Hutton, but not a huge upgrade on Biega. Price was right. The Boeser signing was a win/win or a lose/lose depending on how you want to spin it. I think it was a very fair deal that gives the team the cap space it needs in the short term, which is particularly useful with the LE contract and the Luongo debacle hanging over them. He could have taken a higher salary for a longer contract, but is almost guaranteed 7.5+ for future years. Now as to Loui E, I think people are a bit too hard on him due to the expectations based on his contract. If he were playing top 6 minutes and putting up the numbers he's putting up, it's a disappointment. Hell, the fact that he's not consistently playing top 6 is a disappointment in itself. As it is, he put up solid third line numbers while putting a lot of is time in on checking and pk duties. He's still one of the better players on the team despite his apparent lack of enthusiasm lately. Here's hoping he wakes up and realises it's not Green that's holding him back but his own compete level. That anchor of a contract is here for three years still. At 2 million a year, nobody would be complaining. Before the Boeser signing I had rated Benning a B+ for this year. After the signing, he's moved up to A- or possibly A. If he'd gotten Boeser for 8yrsx6.5, he'd be an A+, but Boeser would be crazy to sign that. I'm very optimistic that the Canucks make the playoffs this season, but I think next season we'll be ready to go a little deeper in the playoffs. Out after one round this time. 95 points and 2nd in the Pacific. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogersTowell Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, VanIsleNuckFan said: If you think in terms of where we were and how we improved and what we were striving for, I'd say those years were success'.. You can't get to this 2019-2020 season without the work done in those previous years. Gillis kept building this team for right now and kept finding himself behind the 8 ball.. JB keeps building this team for the future and it's starting to help us in the now. I felt like compared to last year we just needed to add a couple of things..In a perfect world, the roster looks exactly like it looks right now.. I couldn't be more excited! I agree with a lot that you are saying. One minor point though, and that is that in the first few years, the 'retool' years, Benning was trying to plug the leaks rather than build for the future. Since then, he's done a very good job on a real rebuild without tanking (on purpose at least) since then. Notable exceptions: Gudbranson and Eriksson signings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycanuckleheads Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, VanIsleNuckFan said: Gillis kept building this team for right now and kept finding himself behind the 8 ball.. JB keeps building this team for the future and it's starting to help us in the now. Ummm, I like how being the best team in hockey for years is all of a sudden 'behind the 8 ball' - while being the worst team in hockey over several years is helping... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 7:53 PM, -AJ- said: I like it so far, but I'm withholding judgement until we see how his acquisitions turn out. He can only make deals based on the information he has from the past. Based on that, at this moment, you have to give him huge props. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Jimbo had a great offseason now it’s all on Green and the Players. Time for a Cup run. go Canucks Gooo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 11:12 PM, WHL rocks said: I like the miller trade Fergland signing and elder signing. Love the Pod draft pick. He's a 3rd line winger at worst with good chance of being a timo meier type top 6 winger. Myers signing is OK he's overpaid by a mill. Boeser signing same. Should have been 7 or 8 years. Boes got market value but only 3 yrs. JB needed to get him signed long term to balance out the aav. Not sure how Myers is overpaid by a mill. Most analysts had him going in the 6.5 to 7.5m range. No way Boeser's agent recommends he sign 7-8 years at the same cap hit. They both know in two to three years he'll be worth 8 to 10m. So that's what those additional years would likely look like. No way they leave that much money on the table long term. No young player on the rise will sign long term at current face value. Only a fool, with an idiot agent, would take that kind of deal. Not sure where the notion comes from that players should sign here for peanuts, but it unrealistic. Maybe because the Sedins took less than market on their deals, or Hamhuis signing well before market to come back to BC and play for a contender. Every team gets those guys, but as with every other team, more will be the players looking out for the full value compensation. We got Myers at a discount as it is because he wanted to be back in BC. Boeser is not going to short change his futrure earning potential just because fans want him long term at his current worth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 It was great because I get a team of players I want to watch, not a bunch of sissies. Really though, which of us wouldn’t have been able to simply spend house money on FAs to plug roster holes partly made by our own age-gap replaceathon and draft pick giveaway JB initially went on here? I mean, it’s hardly exec of the year work to spend house money to fix your problems. Slow clap, mostly for entertainment purposes, not for managerial prowess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) On 9/17/2019 at 10:15 PM, bloodycanuckleheads said: Don't forget... Everyone here thought 2018 was a smashing success - until it wasn't. And everyone here thought the 2017 signings were a smashing success - until they weren't. And 2016, well let's not even mention 2016... I didn't I had them pegged bottom 5 and was correct. This year they are on the edge. Not better than Vegas. But it's fun! As most people mentioned the real fun is in 2 years. Edited September 20, 2019 by Chris12345 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanIsleNuckFan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 hours ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: Ummm, I like how being the best team in hockey for years is all of a sudden 'behind the 8 ball' - while being the worst team in hockey over several years is helping... Umm, like thats totally not what I meant. My point was that Gillis built his team to make a run, once, a culmination of a symphony so to speak, while JB keeps looking to build with a focus on the future, while we look like we will really start winning this year... I recall during the Gillis years, we didn't have a 1st round pick for 6-7 years... 1st round picks are gold, especially with a GM like JB.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanIsleNuckFan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, RogersTowell said: I agree with a lot that you are saying. One minor point though, and that is that in the first few years, the 'retool' years, Benning was trying to plug the leaks rather than build for the future. Since then, he's done a very good job on a real rebuild without tanking (on purpose at least) since then. Notable exceptions: Gudbranson and Eriksson signings. I think we can all agree it was between ownership and giving the Sedins a final chance that kept the re build from really starting then. Edited September 20, 2019 by VanIsleNuckFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 8:46 PM, Grape said: Trust me, I follow various forums for my other favourite sports teams, and CDC is overwhelmingly more positive than everyone else. Even HF Canucks boards are tame compared to most other sports boards. I find HF boards overly negative Reddit is pretty neutral CDC is a cheerleading forum 2 hours ago, Chris12345 said: I didn't I had them pegged bottom 5 and was correct. This year they are on the edge. Not better than Vegas. But it's fun! As most people mentioned the real fun is in 2 years. I think the real fun is this and next year. If they play well, in 2 years our top end players will get PAID. So we'll either lose one of them as happens to teams or we'll keep them and have no money for bottom half of the lineup. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Call me crazy but let's see how regular season goes? Maybe even see one game with real lines and such? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipes2539 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 10:45 AM, ItTakesAnArmy said: He is a good pick, but who else? Unless he has some serious problems that had other GM's found out something. Going from #2 to #10 was a godsend for Benning if the kid is as good as he looked last year. Nils Höglander was a great pick as well, I can't wait to see his development over the next two years. I love that we so many promising prospects in the pipeline someone to watch and look forward to for several years to come. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipes2539 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Davathor said: Call me crazy but let's see how regular season goes? Maybe even see one game with real lines and such? One thing everyone should be able to agree on, willing to bet everyone hasn't been this excited for the start of the season in a LONG time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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