Googlie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said: I'd like to add another tough winger who's role is grit and some fisticuffs, I liked Arsenault last night and of course Big Mac for sure. Waive down Eriksson to make a spot for a tough guy. Miller and Ferland are tough but are more valuable staying in the game. Eriksson had Prust stay with him for a week in the summer giving him boxing lessons and teaching him the "ratboy poke". I heard that somewhere (or did I just make it up? Maybe .........) Edited September 18, 2019 by Googlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcheeze86 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 jake/miller/benn/rousell/ferland is gonna be fine but i really liked arseneau last night 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 At some point people are going to have to realize and accept that that's just not the way the NHL is anymore, not the way hockey is anymore. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 12 hours ago, hockeygod77 said: i really think ferland will do his job and benn will but hey i still think they will get pushed around a bit..we will see what other teams try against the canucks this season..going to have to play discipline tough hockey and take one for the team...if it means sacrificing your body for few penalties ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) I think that the kind of toughness needed to win these days isn't really about counting the number of enforcers on your team, I think that it is more about developing team toughness. It perhaps takes a certain critical mass of big bodies to get there but it's really more about getting every single player to buy into the fact that it is a physical contact game and everyone sticks up for everyone else. Say what you like about the Bruins but their culture has always been exactly that and if you look closely you will even see the goal scorers and the "skill guys" getting their hands dirty now and then (of course I'm not trying to suggest acting like Marchand, that's taking it too far in an unsportsmanlike direction). I'm suggesting that team toughness is what is needed and while not every player necessarily needs to fight, every single player does have to make hits and take hits to make plays from time to time. I think we have the right mix of personnel right now, we just need to work on that team toughness culture from top to bottom and get absolutely everyone on board. Go Canucks Go! Edited September 18, 2019 by nux_win 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, stawns said: At some point people are going to have to realize and accept that that's just not the way the NHL is anymore, not the way hockey is anymore. Agreed. Though I live in Toronto where people seem to repeat that more than anywhere. I think it's because they've been building a team to hopefully compete with Tampa. It feels like the last 2 playoffs have shown the NHL and hockey still require some serious toughness included with the speed and skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, nzan said: Agreed. Though I live in Toronto where people seem to repeat that more than anywhere. I think it's because they've been building a team to hopefully compete with Tampa. It feels like the last 2 playoffs have shown the NHL and hockey still require some serious toughness included with the speed and skill. Absolutely, grit and physical play still reign supreme, imo. However, fighting is pretty much gone and players like Hughes are just going to have to learn to deal with slashes, high sticks etc etc etc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fanuck Posted September 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 hours ago, stawns said: At some point people are going to have to realize and accept that that's just not the way the NHL is anymore, not the way hockey is anymore. Exactly stawns. The Blues, remember them - they won the cup, had exactly 1 fight more all season than the Canucks did. The Blues are coached by arguably one of the toughest players to EVER play the game and even his team doesn't play that way. If you add the fight totals that Ferk had last year to this club we'd be 4th overall in total fights last season. JB, imo, has addressed the grit department recently (Ferk, Benn, Roussel). We'll be fine. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Nah, JB is targeting the right types of players. All rounders with grit. We're tough enough. I'm stoked for the compete level that this squad should bring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, stawns said: Absolutely, grit and physical play still reign supreme, imo. However, fighting is pretty much gone and players like Hughes are just going to have to learn to deal with slashes, high sticks etc etc etc. Ugh. I agree absolutely obviously, but I'd sure like to see Ferland etc show some folks that slashes and high sticks won't be tolerated 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 It feels like the Canucks have finally got a more balanced team. Not particularly tough, but not soft anymore. Add Rousell, and hopefully Tryamkin either at the end of this season or start of the next. Tram isn't a fighter, but like Myers, his size alone can be intimidating. I believe that its a cumulative effect on the team as a whole. And how much the boys can play a "team toughness". You don't need every player to be a goon. All you need is a tipping point of a few more aggressive, bigger players to make the other more skill players to feel comfortable, and have a little more bravado themselves by osmosis. And I think we finally have that culture being developed. Would have liked to have kept Luke Schenn (@ 700k), at least until Tram comes back, but can't have everything I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) I like the added toughness with Miller/Fer/Myers but I think we need a chippier type player who is good in ALL THOSE BLEEPING after the whistle scrums. We need levels of toughness I think 1st responders like Big Mac and Arsenault would be good "in your face types" willing to give up 5 minutes IF teams felt so inclined. Arsenault or Big Mac giving face washes would be good in a chippy game, Until they eliminate all the "accidental on purpose goalie hits". Roussel does that but we should add one more til he gets back. Edited September 18, 2019 by Hairy Kneel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 So what your saying is that we should trade Pettersson for Lucic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 16 hours ago, hockeygod77 said: i really think ferland will do his job and benn will but hey i still think they will get pushed around a bit..we will see what other teams try against the canucks this season..going to have to play discipline tough hockey and take one for the team...if it means sacrificing your body for few penalties ... That's a brick sh!thouse right there! Even the dog is happy. Wants guns like dat! Knows no one can mess with us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Jester13 said: Anyone else see Myers crosscheck a player multiple times after running Demko? Yeah, me too. I did, but that was a small, young Oiler that won't even get a sniff of the NHL. Myers won't be doing that with the NHL tough guys. I think that this off-season was good in terms of getting tougher although we're still missing that one nuclear deterrent. For everyone naming Virtanen, Myers and Benn as tough guys, please stop. They can throw big hits, which is great, but they won't be intimidating anyone with their fighting and Myers/Virtanen will look for ways out of fights. The reality is that our Canucks are so deep that we don't have room for any tough guys. I'm happy with where we sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I thought it was that the Canucks needed more hockey players if they're going to win the cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amebushi Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 WTF did I just read? We need more toughness? What are you looking for on the ice? Should we trade for Lucic? I heard a rumour that Kimbo Slice is looking for a job maybe we can stick him on a line with Petey. If the additions of Ferland, Miller, Benn and Myers weren’t enough of an improvement you are either straight up trolling or just fell out of a time machine from the 80’s. I love a good fight too, but times are changing. Big hits, the occasional “accidental” cross check and the ability to move people from the front of the crease are what is considered pushback now. Think what Quinn and Petey will do against AHL plugs on a fourth line to fight. They will skate around them and score. Other teams will do the same. The enforcer roll is dead unless you find one that can skate on a top line. Retribution after the fact will result in Canucks being suspended until the end of time. Let this much bigger team go show what they have before calling them out for a lack of truculence. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 In other news Canucks are wondering who will take over offensive roles for their team now that the sedins have retired, will Bo take the next step and can Pettersson come in and help immediately? Soon to be seen. This is is Marklar reporting from (marklar) underneath some(marklar) rock in the ground(marklar), inside a (marklar) cave in the(marklar) Marianas trench. Marklar. Glad hockey is back some of these summer posts got to my think box.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, Amebushi said: WTF did I just read? We need more toughness? What are you looking for on the ice? Should we trade for Lucic? I heard a rumour that Kimbo Slice is looking for a job maybe we can stick him on a line with Petey. If the additions of Ferland, Miller, Benn and Myers weren’t enough of an improvement you are either straight up trolling or just fell out of a time machine from the 80’s. I love a good fight too, but times are changing. Big hits, the occasional “accidental” cross check and the ability to move people from the front of the crease are what is considered pushback now. Think what Quinn and Petey will do against AHL plugs on a fourth line to fight. They will skate around them and score. Other teams will do the same. The enforcer roll is dead unless you find one that can skate on a top line. Retribution after the fact will result in Canucks being suspended until the end of time. Let this much bigger team go show what they have before calling them out for a lack of truculence. Kimbo!!! I vote yes lmoa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 11 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Is that a young Chief Clancy Wiggum? Professor Farnsworth’s clone from Futurama. Cubert J Farnsworth. Good lad. In that know it all way kinda way. Like a good few CDC posters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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