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More escalation in that mess of a war today. US forces completely withdrawing from northern Syria. Syrian government force reportedly preparing to country Turkey's invasion. And reports Turkey will try and seize more then just the 30 km they initially said. I can't see Russia getting too involved vs Turkey to back Syria but anything can happen there. 

 

I say this, Screw Turkey. That country shouldn't be apart of NATO anymore. Erdogan is a dictator like no other. He's using a proxy army full of ex HTS , Al nursra and other extremists supported by the Turkish Army. All ready video's and reports surfacing of mass executing's of YPK, civilians and political people.

 

 

 

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50036901

 

Turkey-Syria offensive: Kurds reach deal with Syrian army

 

in this case you might like this news. Me too. Syria is going to help the Kurds, which were enemies, to fight the evil Turks.  I also agree with you, they have no business being part of Nato. 

 

great for both sides, since the Sryan army itself is unfortunately no match for Turkey.  their best way of surviving including the brave Turks is to fight together.  Not sure what the "deal" is. 

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1 hour ago, Lancaster said:

Isn't the EU supposedly withholding funds aid to Turkey earmarked for all those refugees?

I wonder if Turkey will be forcing all those Syrians refugees back to their home country.  

Erdogan  told Euro leaders that if they interfere he will release Syrian Refugees into their countries, and so for.

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Funny how the left who’s largely against war in Syria are all now criticizing Trump for pulling out of Syria. 

 

Wouldnt it be nice if people could come together from both sides and have reasonable conversations.  Too bad they are all about political pandering to win control.

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2 minutes ago, mpt said:

Funny how the left who’s largely against war in Syria are all now criticizing Trump for pulling out of Syria. 

 

Wouldnt it be nice if people could come together from both sides and have reasonable conversations.  Too bad they are all about political pandering to win control.

Yes, that totally encompasses all the issues that people, from all sides of the political spectrum, have against the decision. Thanks for breaking it down so simply and succinctly. 

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1 hour ago, HerrDrFunk said:

Yes, that totally encompasses all the issues that people, from all sides of the political spectrum, have against the decision. Thanks for breaking it down so simply and succinctly. 

If you read the media, the same media complaining about being in Syria are now criticizing him, nothing to do with the actual people.  Just like all the politicians whom supported a wall until Trump says it, now they are against it.  The media and politicians are the problem; not the people they represent.

 

If you say say one thing then immediately turn on it when you get what you wanted just to skew the political environment, blame yourself.  Interesting how blind people are to pandering and standing behind party lines no matter what they do or say.

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1 minute ago, mpt said:

If you read the media, the same media complaining about being in Syria are now criticizing him, nothing to do with the actual people.

I've seen conservative media, who've firmly put their noses up Trump's ass in the past, respond with "Um, what? This isn't a good idea" as well. 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/why-conservative-pundits-and-pols-are-denouncing-trumps-syria-move

 

Of course, that relies on being informed on why it might be a bad thing to abandon allies to a country who would just as soon see them ethnically cleansed. 

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Mr. bone spurs (TRUMP) hard at work without a f@#$%^ng clue of what he is doing,what a cowardly nincompoop.Never served his country but he is the most military president ever and the best at everything according to him of course,HISTORY WILL NOT BE KIND TO THIS IDIOT PRESIDENT.

This is how Trump treats everyone around him,he has no real friends except Pedophiles and Russian mobsters.

no ALLY will trust that fool after this.

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I find it interesting how the Kurds population is basically the same as Canada around 35 million.. this is not a little tribe like it seems when reported on. It would be a travesty for that many people to get ‘slaughtered’ as I read it

 

Sounds like positive news of a deal between Syria and Kurds to stem

to Turkish incursion though.. best case scenario really. Everyone turns to the US to save the day, but blame needs to lie with Nato member turkey as well for their actions. Wheres the nearby EU nations military involvement ?

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23 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

I find it interesting how the Kurds population is basically the same as Canada around 35 million.. this is not a little tribe like it seems when reported on. It would be a travesty for that many people to get ‘slaughtered’ as I read it

 

Sounds like positive news of a deal between Syria and Kurds to stem

to Turkish incursion though.. best case scenario really. Everyone turns to the US to save the day, but blame needs to lie with Nato member turkey as well for their actions. Wheres the nearby EU nations military involvement ?

But this just shows how confusing the situation in the MIddle East is.  Wasn't it just a little while ago that Presiden Assad  of Syria was regarded as a murderous tyrant dropping barrel bombs and using poison gas on his citizens?  Yet now he's seen as some sort of white knight coming to the rescue of the Kurds?

 

And now you may have the Russian backed Syrian forces coming into conflict with Turkish forces - and Turkey is a member of NATO, and so is an ally of the US (and Canada).   Except that, recently, Turkey has been moving closer to the Russians.  The same Russians who will be backing the Syrian forces who might be fighting the Turkish forces!

 

Good grief.  It would almost be comical if it weren't for the fact that men, women and children are dying in all this lunacy.

 

  

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1 minute ago, UnkNuk said:

But this just shows how confusing the situation in the MIddle East is.  Wasn't it just a little while ago that Presiden Assad  of Syria was regarded as a murderous tyrant dropping barrel bombs and using poison gas on his citizens?  Yet now he's seen as some sort of white knight coming to the rescue of the Kurds?

 

And now you may have the Russian backed Syrian forces coming into conflict with Turkish forces - and Turkey is a member of NATO, and so is an ally of the US (and Canada).   Except that, recently, Turkey has been moving closer to the Russians.  The same Russians who will be backing the Syrian forces who might be fighting the Turkish forces!

 

Good grief.  It would almost be comical if it weren't for the fact that men, women and children are dying in all this lunacy.

 

  

Yes it is very confusing.. having a common enemy will generate short term alliances, but I wouldn't trust the Assad/Putin coalition to keep their word. Especially if my entire race/culture was at stake. 

Nato as a whole needs to step up here and take action to reign in Erdogan

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