Popular Post Nuxfanabroad Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Wadr to the Laff fans on this board, starting this thread to get out ahead of the coming panic. No prob if you disagree with the main premise. Not starting this topic to incite a war. Just calling/predicting it as it appears. I'll number the main points, for ease of context/replies. 1- Leafs are a precarious Jenga tower, sure to topple over. It's that simple. They were constructed incredibly poorly. "We can, & we will!" Quotes like these are the cringe-worthy statements of an inexperienced GM, who loused this mess to apocalyptic proportions. I'll go into further detail on this assertion, should this thread have legs. 2- They're our polar-opposite. Find this interesting. On their HFBoard page, even their fans admit their key parts/youth are mostly unlikeable. Think back to early JB quotes, where he stated Van's emphasis on "character" in acquiring/drafting young assets. How respectable vets like the twins showed our youth how to carry themselves. JB was often mocked(at that other site) for this priority. Hmm..wonder if they're still laughing at this declaration? 3- Is there a 'Guilty conscience' at play here? ..they blatantly, openly tanked, with self-promotion from their wh*ring media. If an NHL franchise behaved like the Clinton political dynasty..they'd be IT! What was a proud, lasting tradition(The House that Smythe Built"), yada yada..had been reduced to the psychological rubble of a FLEA market, ragged tent. 4- So please..school Dubas, eh? All you aspiring GM's out there..put yer $ where your mouth is! What move(s) would you execute, in order to save this pile of mulch? Pretend you really LIKE this outfit, & want to extinguish the 1967 ghosts. Turn their ship around(despite striking the berg). Appreciating it's merely theoretical, it's sometimes interesting to look back on these things..(eg: "I said Dubas SHOULD do this, but he did that!" etc...) 5- Predictions: Leafs make PO's..Y/N? 7- Does Babcock last the season? 8- Does Dubas make it to next season? (I'll add answers in a bit) Some might play shoot the messenger here(fine, have thick skin!)..but we've all had to endure their ubiquitous, pontifacting media-storm/blather for far too long. The Christian thing is to share with these wayward souls about the path to tread(said he, tongue in cheek)... 2 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 they simply need to trade one of their top 3 players to acquire depth tavares cannot be moved so either matthews or marner have to be marner is badly overpaid and that may affect his return somewhat matthews is overpaid but has the generational tag attached to him which makes it more likely they'd get a more generous return on him despite his contract i see no other way predictions are that the cap will remain flat for at least next season as well so i see matthews as having to be moved and the team likely to pay the most is arizona but they are close to having cap issues themselves but they'd be so motivated to get a home town phenom player it would be a deal of them getting matthews for a multiple player return 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 They should trade one of their top 3, but they won't. They rake in too much money for the franchise. They'll keep sitting and raking in money because they're entertaining. But they won't win anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Top Sven Baercheese said: They should trade one of their top 3, but they won't. They rake in too much money for the franchise. They'll keep sitting and raking in money because they're entertaining. But they won't win anything. But that won't last. When they drop under the PO-bar, what was entertaining will suddenly become infuriating. The Hogtown faithfull will fully realize the emperor has no clothes, & shtf. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tas Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) matthews to arizona for phil the thrill. close the loop. Edited October 23, 2019 by tas 1 3 15 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghostsof1915 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Nylander for a decent defenceman. Problem solved. Brodin? Dumba? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, BrockBoester said: I've never noticed before that the 'n' in toronto is the lone lower case letter in that logo. awful. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Nylander for a decent defenceman. Problem solved. Brodin? Dumba? I don't think it's that simple..they gotta pull them pants up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: 2- They're our polar-opposite. Find this interesting. On their HFBoard page, even their fans admit their key parts/youth are mostly unlikeable. Think back to early JB quotes, where he stated Van's emphasis on "character" in acquiring/drafting young assets. How respectable vets like the twins showed our youth how to carry themselves. JB was often mocked(at that other site) for this priority. Hmm..wonder if they're still laughing at this declaration? I get drafting character but make no bones about it, JB would've drafted Matthews in a heartbeat if he had the #1 pick. Didn't Hunter lobby hard to draft Marner and then they gave the GM gig to his rival/competation? Too late now but I always thought a Matthews/Horvat deal would work for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Nylander for a decent defenceman. Problem solved. Brodin? Dumba? Nylander, with his new contract, isn't worth much in trade. The Leafs need to trade AM if they want to land a top four D man, who plays both ends of the ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Bruins in 7 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Canucks Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Worst move by the leafs was letting Marleau go early and not keeping Lou Lamoriello around. They need that culture. There young guys still have a lot of learning to do. Edited October 24, 2019 by #Canucks 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 What I would've done is already long past. I would've moved Matthews to Arizona before OEL's NTC kicked in plus likely other assets added. I would've let Nylander rot if he didn't want to sign. At this point, I'm not sure what they can really do other pull the Edmonton model and to sell decent players for cheap just to get cap space. Matthews is still likely the top candidate for me to trade, but I'm not sure who would take him and if they have the pieces that make sense. Before Toronto had Kadri to take the 2nd line role if Matthews was dealt, but now they may need to lose value bolstering another part of the lineup in finding a 2nd line center again unless Kerfoot can take over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, coastal.view said: they simply need to trade one of their top 3 players to acquire depth tavares cannot be moved so either matthews or marner have to be marner is badly overpaid and that may affect his return somewhat matthews is overpaid but has the generational tag attached to him which makes it more likely they'd get a more generous return on him despite his contract i see no other way predictions are that the cap will remain flat for at least next season as well so i see matthews as having to be moved and the team likely to pay the most is arizona but they are close to having cap issues themselves but they'd be so motivated to get a home town phenom player it would be a deal of them getting matthews for a multiple player return I can't help but read your posts like they're lyrics or a poem. Could be my phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, #Canucks said: Worst move by the leafs was letting Marleau go early and not keep Lou Lamoriello around. They need that culture. There young guys still have a lot of learning to do. Even better..hand a 1st to a Conf-rival to make it stylishly-epic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 They're built fine for the regular season but playoffs are a whole new game. First round exit along with the coach soon after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, theo5789 said: What I would've done is already long past. I would've moved Matthews to Arizona before OEL's NTC kicked in plus likely other assets added. I would've let Nylander rot if he didn't want to sign. At this point, I'm not sure what they can really do other pull the Edmonton model and to sell decent players for cheap just to get cap space. Matthews is still likely the top candidate for me to trade, but I'm not sure who would take him and if they have the pieces that make sense. Before Toronto had Kadri to take the 2nd line role if Matthews was dealt, but now they may need to lose value bolstering another part of the lineup in finding a 2nd line center again unless Kerfoot can take over. I'd prob dump him to Dallas for BENN!(+ 2020 1st, maybe Harley, whatever goodies they'd add) & Oleksiak. Burn it down..AGAIN! :^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wanless said: I can't help but read your posts like they're lyrics or a poem. Could be my phone Just imagine some Page riffs filling gaps, & the Song Remains The Same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 The leafs are built like a basketball team. All the money in 4 players. Their biggest mistake was signing Tavares. I'm sure they could trade him and that would be the better move but having Matthews signed right until free agency makes that a huge gamble. At first look it seems like Matthews would be the easiest to move The wild might be a good trading partner. Matthews and a top prospect/first 2020 Dumba Zucker and a first 2019 Then try and get a Benn type dman in Free agency 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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