Chickenspear Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I'm not sure how Eriksson would feel about going to a team like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Kovalchuck has been a .5 point per game for the past 2 seasons, including the games he has played this season.. most of the seasons before this, he has been a 1 point per game player or better. Kovalchuck is still a serviceable veteran, and if you consider the fact that he has been limited to a 4th line role, and has had Willie Desjardins as his Coach,. He can probably contribute more, with a better opportunity. Eriksson comes no where near him in player comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Kovalchuck has been a .5 point per game for the past 2 seasons, including the games he has played this season.. most of the seasons before this, he has been a 1 point per game player or better. Kovalchuck is still a serviceable veteran, and if you consider the fact that he has been limited to a 4th line role, and has had Willie Desjardins as his Coach,. He can probably contribute more, with a better opportunity. Eriksson comes no where near him in player comparisons. Totally agree but Erikson is going to retire after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, Alflives said: Totally agree but Erikson is going to retire after this season. Wait. I thought you said he’d be demoted to Utica after training camp and then instantly retire to avoid the embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 12:15 AM, BrockBoester said: Pro: No Eriksson Con: Kovalchuk on our team As a side note, I love that everyone thinks that the more Russian players we have, the more likely it is that Tryamkin comes back. :D Well duh of course it would. Tryamkins buddy is Goldy.... Goldy and Podz likely look up to a legend like Ilya. Tryamkin and his wife were reported to be homesick, having fellow countrymen in a foreign country makes things alot easier. Didn't Washington have Sergei Fedorov for Ovechkins rookie year? Didn't Atlanta Thrashers acquire, Antropov and Kozlov to help Ilya? Didn't Mario Lemieux stay to mentor Crosby in his rookie season? Panarin being Russian and having a strong Russian community and many Russian teammates in NYR didn't contribute to signing in NY? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockBoester Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, GhostsOf1994 said: Well duh of course it would. Tryamkins buddy is Goldy.... Goldy and Podz likely look up to a legend like Ilya. Tryamkin and his wife were reported to be homesick, having fellow countrymen in a foreign country makes things alot easier. Didn't Washington have Sergei Fedorov for Ovechkins rookie year? Didn't Atlanta Thrashers acquire, Antropov and Kozlov to help Ilya? Didn't Mario Lemieux stay to mentor Crosby in his rookie season? Panarin being Russian and having a strong Russian community and many Russian teammates in NYR didn't contribute to signing in NY? Sounds like russian propaganda to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Well, been thinking about this The way I see it right now is Benning keeps Eriksson on the big club for the next 2 1/2 seasons hoping Eriksson will retire Eriksson on the other hand, will sit and collect his money for 2 1/2 more seasons Nothing other than our wishing has changed, he still thinks he can play, and he can on a 4th line, and for 6 million a season Why should he retire? Kovalchuk, is (not) playing on a rebuilding team, but he has shown he can still score...….something Eriksson can not do So, worst case scenario......Kovy sits in the press box, which is no worse than what Eriksson is doing Worse case scenario, Kovy retires at the end of next year...one year before Eriksson Best case, he plays on one of the first 2 lines and scores 50/60 points. Something Eriksson isn't and can't do. Proposal Kovy for Eriksson and Jasek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 9 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: Well, been thinking about this The way I see it right now is Benning keeps Eriksson on the big club for the next 2 1/2 seasons hoping Eriksson will retire Eriksson on the other hand, will sit and collect his money for 2 1/2 more seasons Nothing other than our wishing has changed, he still thinks he can play, and he can on a 4th line, and for 6 million a season Why should he retire? Kovalchuk, is (not) playing on a rebuilding team, but he has shown he can still score...….something Eriksson can not do So, worst case scenario......Kovy sits in the press box, which is no worse than what Eriksson is doing Worse case scenario, Kovy retires at the end of next year...one year before Eriksson Best case, he plays on one of the first 2 lines and scores 50/60 points. Something Eriksson isn't and can't do. Proposal Kovy for Eriksson and Jasek Pretty sure we’d have to add more to it to get LE off the roster - but that’s the spirit. Worse case scenario we will have to do what TO did and trade a first to get rid of him his last season ... that would really suck but we will need the cap space just like they did. Think we have decent odds of him retiring before that though - fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 With Ladd (33) also joining the list of guys getting sent to the AHL for “conditioning stints” (burying guys) -I think that if we had a healthy roster and Roussel was back that LE would be sent too. Can’t imagine him not going their in the next 12 months at some point. Maybe he will play our his contract, maybe he won’t- a fair amount of guys with front loaded contracts have retired before they were playing for peanuts (relatively). Again I think they worse case scenario is we have no choice but to pay a first and cap dump him like TO did with Marleau - but it won’t happen this year - maybe at the end of the next one when EP and Hughes are up ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 So what happens if we let him move back to Sweden and play in the SHL (on Loan) and pay him to scout, as a player/scout? I don't think that is any worse than some others have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Kovy has NMC and he's indicated to Kings mgmt that he won't waive it. He's going going to finish the season in LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Contracts are written to be broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: So what happens if we let him move back to Sweden and play in the SHL (on Loan) and pay him to scout, as a player/scout? I don't think that is any worse than some others have done Loaning him to the SHL is the same cap hit as sending him to Utica. 2 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: Contracts are written to be broken Need to have a cause to break a contract. Doesn't seem like Eriksson is looking to retire. He is represented by JP Barry from CAA. They are one of the most powerful agencies in the league. Doubt Benning wants to get in conflict with them over Eriksson. Edited November 17, 2019 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 7 hours ago, mll said: Loaning him to the SHL is the same cap hit as sending him to Utica. Need to have a cause to break a contract. Doesn't seem like Eriksson is looking to retire. He is represented by JP Barry from CAA. They are one of the most powerful agencies in the league. Doubt Benning wants to get in conflict with them over Eriksson. Nah, I only meant that they might agree to the change in scenery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/16/2019 at 4:33 PM, janisahockeynut said: So what happens if we let him move back to Sweden and play in the SHL (on Loan) and pay him to scout, as a player/scout? I don't think that is any worse than some others have done Why would we let him be comfortable wasting our money? Let him rot in Utica or retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: Why would we let him be comfortable wasting our money? Let him rot in Utica or retire. Oh no, I would send him down, don't get me wrong...but that still costs us 6 M per year He actually has to retire to save us money Something just came to me, as I type What if Benning has agreed to keep Eriksson up, and to not embarrass him then pay him his 4 million next summer, then he retires and that is the only way Eriksson will agree to retire It kind of handcuffs Benning, but I would do it I bet Benning would to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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