Guest Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) This article might surprise a few people here. According to the article, by some standards, the Myers-Edler pairing has done very well early in the season. Quote https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/alex-edler-and-tyler-myers-are-one-of-the-best-defence-pairings-in-the-nhl-1.24000404 Quote Alex Edler and Tyler Myers are one of the best defence pairings in the NHL The Canucks’ top pairing has been the team’s most pleasant surprise early in the season Take one aging veteran defenceman, whose injuries have taken a toll on him in recent years. Even as he’s continued to put up points, his play has quietly been on the decline. Add a big-name free agent defenceman, whose signing was excoriated by the hockey analytics world, as he’s consistently given up far more defensively than he ever contributes offensively. Put them together and what do you get? One of the best defence pairings in the NHL. The Canucks have been one of the best teams in the NHL to start the 2019-20 season, racking up goals and rattling off wins. There’s plenty of credit to go around: the top line of J.T. Miller, Brock Boeser, and Elias Pettersson has been dominant, the goaltending of Jacob Markstrom and Thatcher Demko has been lights out, and the Quinn Hughes-quarterbacked power play is one of the best in the league. The impact of the Canucks’ top pairing on defence, however, should not be overlooked. Alex Edler and Tyler Myers have been playing big minutes in all situations with fantastic results. Edler is the longest-tenured player on the Canucks, having played with the same team since his rookie year in 2006-07. The age is starting to show in the touches of gray in his beard and in a decline in his offensive game at even-strength that was partially masked by his production on the power play. At least, that was the case until this season. Likewise, Myers has been a conundrum in the NHL for years, as his fantastic, Calder-winning rookie season was followed by years of middling play and point totals. Flaws in his defensive game had Winnipeg Jets fans pulling their hair out at times and according to some metrics, Myers is a below-replacement level defenceman; you could arguably find a better defenceman on the waiver wire or in the AHL. But not this season. Whether because the strengths and flaws of Edler and Myers perfectly balance each other or because the rumours of each of their demises were greatly exaggerated, the two defencemen have been a perfect match. Edler and Myers have been offensively dominant. The pairing has been on the ice for 71.95 shot attempts per 60 minutes at 5-on-5, which leads all pairings that have played at least 100 minutes together. Combine that with solid numbers defensively and you have a pairing that tilts the ice in the right direction for over 20 minutes per game. It’s not just quantity of shots either. When Edler and Myers are on the ice, the Canucks create dangerous scoring chances, with the bulk of the shots coming from the most dangerous areas on the ice, as shown in heatmaps from HockeyViz.com. According to HockeyViz, the Canucks have created scoring chances that are 27% more dangerous than league average with Edler and Myers on the ice. That stems from how dangerous Edler and Myers have been in transition with their ability to move the puck up ice with their skating or passing. “It starts with how you're defending the rush,” said Myers on Monday. “What we've talked about at the very start at camp, we're a very aggressive team defensively and I think it's allowing us to have more offence. Combine that with some of the guys we have up front, with the plays they can make, [the puck is] going in for us right now.” Head coach Travis Green likewise credits their defensive game for how dangerous the Canucks have been offensively when they’ve been on the ice. “They take away time and space, and they've got a long reach,” said Green. “I think that allows us not to spend as much time in your own zone… People get enamored with offense and points, but not spending time in your zone means you're spending it in the other team's zone.” Combine that with the fact that Edler and Myers typically play in a matchup role, facing some of the best forwards the opposition has to offer. When they’re on the ice, Edler and Myers typically force them to spend most of the game defending in their own zone. It’s one of the biggest reasons the Canucks have been so successful to start the season. Now, the question is whether they can make it last. Can Edler stay healthy? Can Myers stave off the defensive mistakes that plagued him in Winnipeg? Edited November 14, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darius Posted November 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2019 Where is that guy that keeps telling us Myers is horrible? 5 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted November 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Darius said: Where is that guy that keeps telling us Myers is horrible? Back under his bridge? 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe-max Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 After reading all the "Edler sucks"-posts in recent postgame threads I was surprised that in the "puck podcast" (two guys, Calfiornia based, one a fan of the Kings, the other one of the Ducks talking hockey) they think that Edler looks like this year's Giordano and they believe he should be in the Norris Trophy conversation. Found it funny and sad at the same time to see how perspectives differ and how critical many fans are of their own team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUCKER67 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Says who? oh yeah, Canucks fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Oh this is gonna be a beauty to use for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 For whatever it's worth, note that this article is a week old, though I'm not sure these facts have changed in that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philthy Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 They do everything quite well.. The Hughes hype def is taking affect. Think our fans are blinded because we don't even know what good defence looks like, considering last years D corp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I'd admit that I didn't think Edler would play as well as he has now. While he's not quite at the level he was back from 2009-2012.... he does look rejuvenated. It's like he no longer has to carry the team on his back anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, Darius said: Where is that guy that keeps telling us Myers is horrible? Myers is decent dman, better than Gudbranson by a mile and pretty damn close to Tryamkin. It is hard to compare the two due to the years between but when reviewing Groots games and his impact it is necessary to remember that the forward lines were much worse and he was a rookie trying to deal with Willi Wonka. IMO a D core that has Edler, Myers, Tanev, Stecher, Hughes, Benn is pretty close to being an excellent shut down group. According to Linden and Jim's statements they already felt he was a top 4 player and if signed he would not need protection from the expansion draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, Alflives said: Back under his bridge? Ahem! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JayDangles Posted November 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2019 For me best signing this year is between Boeser and Edler's contracts. A healthy Edler 2 years @6m is a great signing when you considered NTC's, expansion draft, comparisons etc. He is playing like 2011 Edler. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, JayDangles said: For me best signing this year is between Boeser and Edler's contracts. A healthy Edler 2 years @6m is a great signing when you considered NTC's, expansion draft, comparisons etc. He is playing like 2011 Edler. Benning appears to have pulled all the right strings this summer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Best at bouncing pucks off shin pads, would be something I might have expected. Pleasant surprise. Cool. Edited November 14, 2019 by 189lb enforcers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 You should fix the original post. It's hard to read on mobile lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 GMJB does it again!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 these graphs are always never the whole story. They have been a nice surprise for sure, but then Myers point total is down, and I would have expected a few goals by this point as well. But other than that, so far so good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, cuporbust said: You should fix the original post. It's hard to read on mobile lol Thanks for letting me know. I just fixed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hindustan Smyl Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Darius said: Where is that guy that keeps telling us Myers is horrible? His name is MS and he’s on the cesspool known as HF Canucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Sample size... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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