EdgarM Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Bo is currently 17th on the team in Hits with 6 hits through 23 games(Petey has 14 and Boes has 11 in comparison). He also has the worst plus minus with -10 on the team. Don't get me wrong, I like Bo as a player and he does a lot of great things and he is a beast in the face off circle, but when the team comes out flat, I expect a Linden type leadership move such as come out flying and laying a hit here and there. Take a chance at getting beat up by driving to the net with the puck here and there. Get in the scrum when one of your line mates is getting scruffed up such as Virtanen last game. I know he is just starting out as a Captain but I am afraid he was mentored by a Captain who was nothing like Linden. Please don't get me wrong, I am not slamming Bo I am just wondering if I am expecting too much of our young Captain or is this something he may learn along the way. Thoughts? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Long story short I am going to say yes but he is, rightfully so, his own unique player. perhaps a hybrid of Sedin-Linden qualities. His hits and stats this season don't tell the whole story. I would say you are not expecting too much, just that it is wrong to expect Bo to be an exact replica of Trevor. When the going gets tough.. I know Bo wants to step up and he wants to win. He is being worked heavily right now with injuries and may be playing through one of his own for all we know. Not worried 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Good points. We will wait and see. I think playoffs will bring out the beast in Bo. We know it is there. I agree though, he can be a little timid at times. I think he will learn through adversity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 You set the tone, & the other team starts grinding, hacking & whacking too! Umm, all our gritty depth has been ground to grits. Once we get the whole cast intact, I think THEN Bo will have his 2nd-half, bada$$ hard-man game goin'. Might have even been coach's orders..cos' they didn't need another Nov with 20 F***ing injuries(Comets/Canucks)..sometimes you gotta' lay low & bide time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chicken. said: Long story short I am going to say yes but he is, rightfully so, his own unique player. perhaps a hybrid of Sedin-Linden qualities. His hits and stats this season don't tell the whole story. I would say you are not expecting too much, just that it is wrong to expect Bo to be an exact replica of Trevor. When the going gets tough.. I know Bo wants to step up and he wants to win. He is being worked heavily right now with injuries and may be playing through one of his own for all we know. Not worried 4 minutes ago, Maginator said: Good points. We will wait and see. I think playoffs will bring out the beast in Bo. We know it is there. I agree though, he can be a little timid at times. I think he will learn through adversity. Very good points, he was more involved earlier in the season and he may be playing hurt. Yes I agree, the playoffs is when it is going to really matter. Still would like to see the hits number up a bit though. Thanks for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Bo is great, and we love him. I heard that the other captains in the league are all crap, and Bo is the best of the Captains. Alf trolls the back alleys of downtown for cats on Fridays. He doesn't troll CDC. Bo is GREAT!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUCKER67 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Bo has no fear, he drives the net, he battles in corners and along the boards, he sticks up for team mates, and sometimes he scores a big goal. I'm not sure there should be any compaints or concerns about him as a leader. Bo will do what Linden never could - hoist that Cup. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dm_ranger Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Bo is currently 17th on the team in Hits with 6 hits through 23 games(Petey has 14 and Boes has 11 in comparison). He also has the worst plus minus with -10 on the team. Don't get me wrong, I like Bo as a player and he does a lot of great things and he is a beast in the face off circle, but when the team comes out flat, I expect a Linden type leadership move such as come out flying and laying a hit here and there. Take a chance at getting beat up by driving to the net with the puck here and there. Get in the scrum when one of your line mates is getting scruffed up such as Virtanen last game. I know he is just starting out as a Captain but I am afraid he was mentored by a Captain who was nothing like Linden. Please don't get me wrong, I am not slamming Bo I am just wondering if I am expecting too much of our young Captain or is this something he may learn along the way. Thoughts? I think H Sedin was a fine Captain, who results wise, did as much or more than Linden did. There is more than one way to be a great Captain. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) Horvat is what, 24, turns 25 when the playoffs start? Horvat is exactly who he is and I’m pretty sure he’s become the player he was drafted to be. We’ve seen Horvat’s ceiling, IMO, or as close to as makes no difference. No, he’s not a Linden or an Iginla-type player or leader. His body of work suggests he isn’t, at least. He has a lot more time to change his play, but unlike Stevie Y, he’s not about to go from 150 point seasons to a defensive hero. I once projected him to become Brind’Amour 2.0, but that looks like a tall task at this point. Horvat just isn’t that physically engaged or intense as those other types of players were, including Linden. Horvat is a beauty, but he’s not going to be a Canucks legend at this rate, not for his play or his leadership skills. Edited November 22, 2019 by 189lb enforcers? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 As an aside, Miller looks to be captain material. And FTR, yes, I’d still make the trade I proposed in fun on these boards last season of Horvat for Brady Tkachuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, dm_ranger said: I think H Sedin was a fine Captain, who results wise, did as much or more than Linden did. There is more than one way to be a great Captain. Yes there is more then one way to be a great Captain and I seen Bo as a more of a "take no crap" type of leader as opposed to the "Gentlemanly" type of leader. Yes its nice to be able to do good interviews and good work in the community but I am looking for a Captain who will be directly responsible in winning on the ice and inspire his team when they come out flat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: As an aside, Miller looks to be captain material. And FTR, yes, I’d still make the trade I proposed in fun on these boards last season of Horvat for Brady Tkachuk. Yes Miller is very similar to an "Yzerman" where he just gets out there and does it. Whatever it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I’m pretty sure that once Bo gets to learn what NHL playoff success is he’ll be even better. Like a Kesler with a good attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, dm_ranger said: I think H Sedin was a fine Captain, who results wise, did as much or more than Linden did. Haha, watch their respective Game 7's in the SCF. 2011 - President Trophy Winners which means that team was much more stacked than the 94 team Linden put on his back. I love Hank but c'mon man, Linden was pure heart and soul and this team would be lucky if Bo had half of Linden's heart. I'd love to see Hank play with broken ribs and score twice. 20 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Bo will do what Linden never could - hoist that Cup. Linden did everything a single player could do to bring a cup to Vancouver. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, dm_ranger said: I think H Sedin was a fine Captain, who results wise, did as much or more than Linden did. There is more than one way to be a great Captain. I don't think so nothing wrong with hank as a captain but to say he did more than linden , well you really didn't pay attention in 94 then linden put the team on his back in game 7 of the final , shot up with pain killers broken ribs two black eyes and refused to quit scored 2 goals he almost got us the cup , what happened in game 7 in 2011 we were done in the first period so who did more when it mattered ? linden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Each captain carved out an identity that resonates differently for each era, fan, but most importantly what the team needed in each era. Smyl - hard-nosed, gritty, and fearless Linden - all about the people, professional, represented the community, heart and soul Naslund - soft spoken, composed, and skillfully placing the team on his back offensively Henrik - quiet intensity, integrity on and off the ice, leader by example Based on our perceptions and experience, we all have different interpretations on what Horvat should look like as a captain and leader for this team. To definitively say that he needs to be this or that, or try and fit him into a particular schema will always leaves us wanting. Bo will find his way, but with that, will be some struggle to find what his identity is. Should be interesting what he does with it, but everything points to his commitment, work ethic, and desire to become a great leader. You hope that Bo will force his own identity as the captain of the Canucks, and it might/will look different than what we have been accustomed to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I think bo needs to play a lil meaner , he just seems to be more effective when he plays mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baratheon Posted November 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2019 I have so many awesome Linden memories but here's the thing. Linden became great when it was all on the line in the playoffs. His game elevated at big moments. It was noticeable because Trevor didn't always play that way. Be careful that you are not comparing your memories of Linden at his best to Horvat in the middle of November lol. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) Bo is a great leader for todays era. Look at the top 20 guys in hits, not one of them a captain unless I missed someone. I think you're using the wrong measuring stick. Edited November 22, 2019 by Jimmy McGill 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Bo is a great leader for todays era. Look at the top 20 guys in hits, not one of them a captain unless I missed someone. I think you're using the wrong measuring stick. ovie says hi at number 16 in hits this year ,watch ovie tomorrow he always throws one or 2 big hits a game , not saying bo has to be in top 20 but just hit a lil more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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