CptCanuck16 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, EdgarM said: Bo is currently 17th on the team in Hits with 6 hits through 23 games(Petey has 14 and Boes has 11 in comparison). He also has the worst plus minus with -10 on the team. Don't get me wrong, I like Bo as a player and he does a lot of great things and he is a beast in the face off circle, but when the team comes out flat, I expect a Linden type leadership move such as come out flying and laying a hit here and there. Take a chance at getting beat up by driving to the net with the puck here and there. Get in the scrum when one of your line mates is getting scruffed up such as Virtanen last game. I know he is just starting out as a Captain but I am afraid he was mentored by a Captain who was nothing like Linden. Please don't get me wrong, I am not slamming Bo I am just wondering if I am expecting too much of our young Captain or is this something he may learn along the way. Thoughts? He is the backbone of the team. Just because he isn't scoring big goals or laying big hits doesn't mean his role isn't vital. God forbid he gets injured and is out for an extended period because you won't like how the Canucks look without him. Edited November 23, 2019 by CptCanuck16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Hard to say so soon in his career. I suspect he will be a "Bo type" leader though. With shades of Toews and O'Reilly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: Geez, the guy just took over as Captain and we're already assessing him in that role? We're an impatient bunch, aren't we? Here's what I know about good captains...they do whatever is asked of them and try to do it well. Bo appears to have zero ego and that's a HUGE plus...just like Linden, who lay on the ice with broken ribs, Bo's the type of guy that will grind himself down to fulfill his responsibility. He's a no I in Team guy who supports the team. Which is what he's done when others have fallen to injury and he's had to carry a huge load. I love Bo, think he's the perfect Captain and feel no need to compare him to others. NEWSFLASH! Deb, he's been here going into his 6th season and has been groomed from the beginning to be the next Captain don't kid yourself. "They do whatever is asked of them and they try to do it well"? You really set the bar high don't you. Oh, and by the way, Linden never layed on the ice with broken ribs, he scored 2 goals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: different styles - look at what guys like Burke have to say about Bo, they don't want to play against him because he's a beast. Is he throwing hits as much as Ovie? No but Ovie isn't the guy you'd put out for defensive matchups either. Bo's more of an all around player, works his ass off, leads by work ethic. I don't see why he has to be a "Linden" or an "Ovie" to be a better captain. If you want a Cup, he has to be that type of Captain. If you just want presidents Cups?...…….Well then that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, EdgarM said: If you want a Cup, he has to be that type of Captain. If you just want presidents Cups?...…….Well then that's another story. Toews' appears on the SC a lot more often than Ovi or the no cup Linden. O'Reilly just led his team to a championship. Neither would be considered huge hitting machines. They still lead their team with a tremendous drive and an ability to score goals at crucial times. I would argue that we have seen some of this in Bo, although there haven't been any games as important SC games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Toews' appears on the SC a lot more often than Ovi or the no cup Linden. O'Reilly just led his team to a championship. Neither would be considered huge hitting machines. They still lead their team with a tremendous drive and an ability to score goals at crucial times. I would argue that we have seen some of this in Bo, although there haven't been any games as important SC games. O'Reilly a Captain? You sure are missing a lot of great Captains in your long list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 That's a big 10/4 Rodger Wilco for me,this means YES. Bo("THE OX") Horvat is well on his way to being a great Captain for this team,he could be the guy that leads us to the promised land and finally to our first STANLEY CUP. A GOOD CANADIAN KID! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Let’s talk Cup Winners here. Lets talk Kopitar, Toews, Bergeron, O’reilly. Yes, Horvat is that type of player, COMPLETELY. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johnny Torts Posted November 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2019 Before you trolls take it out of hand I’ll remind you he got 27 goals without wingers and on a non playoff team last year. He’s trending up, he hasn’t peaked and won’t anytime soon. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, EdgarM said: O'Reilly a Captain? You sure are missing a lot of great Captains in your long list. He leads like a captain. He led the Blues more than anyone on their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, higgyfan said: Hard to say so soon in his career. I suspect he will be a "Bo type" leader though. With shades of Toews and O'Reilly. This exactly. He’s never going to be like Linden. For one he’s not 6’4” and doesn’t have his wingspan or capacity for big body check. What he does have that going for him is his face offs. And he’s a dog after a bone on the fore check and entering the zone with the puck on his stick. He needs better linemates to get on the scoresheet more. For most of the past two years he’s got the leftovers to work with ... had Miller for a few games and that line looked good - but the top line needed him thems the breaks. A few things they have in common is selflessness - and good old Canadian roots and manners. He’s still learning the ropes but I’d expect he carves our a nice legacy for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 To be fair to Bo, Linden was #2 overall pick only behind Modano. Linden was a big bodied, total package player ready to play in the NHL from the get-go. Bo on the other had was #9 overall pick billed as #3 center. He worked his way up over the years, improving various aspects of his game and now he is a #2 center on our team and one of the best faceoff guy in the league. I think Bo will be a great leader for this team in his own way. And, we haven't really seen what Bo is like in the playoffs. Remember he was picked for his clutch performance in the OHL playoffs. But yeah, that -10 has been bothering me. Although he played on poor Canucks team since he came into the league (except for 2014-15), he has been a minus player in every season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, Johnny Torts said: Let’s talk Cup Winners here. Lets talk Kopitar, Toews, Bergeron, O’reilly. Yes, Horvat is that type of player, COMPLETELY. I want to agree with this but honestly, I think Kopitar, Toews, Bergeron are a bit out of reach for Bo. I think of that group, O'Reilly is the most similar to Bo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Interesting and divisive topic. I truly believe Bo's numbers are only representative of his deployment and quality of line mates. He could have a lot more points. As far as hits go, he doesn't finish a lot of checks but he's rarely caught out of position by being overzealous and forcing them. I seem to remember Bo and Bieksa being the only players to finish a check in our last playoff series, but anyways.. Let's say Green just put Petey on Bo's LW last year. Our depth already sucked, but a Petey Bo Boeser line would have, and still would rock bells. What if Miller was traded into the Bo hole of endless Dzone faceoffs and a carousel of wingers, how would he fare? Petey couldn't do Bo's job. Bo has been leaned on harder than any other player in the last 4 years and it didn't break his spirit. He's a team first guy, like many great captains before him and his numbers don't do justice to his real contribution to the team. I remember "playoff Bo". I can't wait to see that again 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 7 hours ago, EdgarM said: I know he is just starting out as a Captain 3 hours ago, EdgarM said: NEWSFLASH! Deb, he's been here going into his 6th season and has been groomed from the beginning to be the next Captain don't kid yourself. Please make up your mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, EdgarM said: Bo is currently 17th on the team in Hits with 6 hits through 23 games(Petey has 14 and Boes has 11 in comparison). He also has the worst plus minus with -10 on the team. Don't get me wrong, I like Bo as a player and he does a lot of great things and he is a beast in the face off circle, but when the team comes out flat, I expect a Linden type leadership move such as come out flying and laying a hit here and there. Take a chance at getting beat up by driving to the net with the puck here and there. Get in the scrum when one of your line mates is getting scruffed up such as Virtanen last game. I know he is just starting out as a Captain but I am afraid he was mentored by a Captain who was nothing like Linden. Please don't get me wrong, I am not slamming Bo I am just wondering if I am expecting too much of our young Captain or is this something he may learn along the way. Thoughts? Linden would’ve got KTFO if he stepped to a guy as tough as Nurse back the day!!! Edited November 23, 2019 by CanuckleHorse Just because Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Chicken. said: Long story short I am going to say yes but he is, rightfully so, his own unique player. perhaps a hybrid of Sedin-Linden qualities. His hits and stats this season don't tell the whole story. I would say you are not expecting too much, just that it is wrong to expect Bo to be an exact replica of Trevor. When the going gets tough.. I know Bo wants to step up and he wants to win. He is being worked heavily right now with injuries and may be playing through one of his own for all we know. Not worried This is what Bo is and has to be. He can have his idols and love parts of their game. But in the end, he has to become his own unique player. That's the Bo we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockBoester Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 You're settin the bar pretty high by using Trevor Linden as the measuring stick, bro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 7 hours ago, khay said: To be fair to Bo, Linden was #2 overall pick only behind Modano. Linden was a big bodied, total package player ready to play in the NHL from the get-go. Bo on the other had was #9 overall pick billed as #3 center. He worked his way up over the years, improving various aspects of his game and now he is a #2 center on our team and one of the best faceoff guy in the league. I think Bo will be a great leader for this team in his own way. And, we haven't really seen what Bo is like in the playoffs. Remember he was picked for his clutch performance in the OHL playoffs. But yeah, that -10 has been bothering me. Although he played on poor Canucks team since he came into the league (except for 2014-15), he has been a minus player in every season. It's pretty hard to compare players until they've been in a playoffs series... Total different hockey. And yes his minus is not fantastic, but with his deployments with an ever changing line of try out wingers, its hardly surprising. He goes up against top lines on a daily basis and owns them on the dot... Give Bo some decent wingers and I'm sure he'll be a + player. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, 6string said: No doubt in my mind: the bigger the game gets the bigger Bo gets. He's that kind of leader. So, he’s like Toews then... edit Horvat is a shootout hero! Edited November 23, 2019 by 189lb enforcers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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