-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Seems about standard for the DoPs. Way too light. If they want to take out dangerous plays like this they have to start handing out real suspensions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Hathaway. 3 games for spitting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Spin the wheel!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 All discipline needs to have the NHLPA involved. Whatever the league dishes out, the PA needs to have additional supplementary action done. Due to the nature of the game, this is literally one member attacking another. Have the offending player be forced to pay to the victim player in the amount of money lost. Kerfoot has been suspended for 2 games and he gets about 10k per game... then he gotta pay Johnson 20k. Borderline players would feel the impact of losing that amount of cash more so than star players. Even for players earning more money, any vast amount will hurt.... if it was Lucic paying for his 2 games, he would have forked over $140k to Kole Sherwood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lancaster said: All discipline needs to have the NHLPA involved. Whatever the league dishes out, the PA needs to have additional supplementary action done. the NHLPA only steps in to challenge the length of suspensions. They are worse than DoPS! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 This was such a reckless play but also not a lot of intent to injure. Not out there to hurt a former teammate. The problem is just that the NHL continues to think that former players are the best adjudicators of punishment. At the end of the day, you have a bunch of dumb jocks trying to be consistent with the administration of justice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lancaster said: All discipline needs to have the NHLPA involved. Whatever the league dishes out, the PA needs to have additional supplementary action done. Due to the nature of the game, this is literally one member attacking another. Have the offending player be forced to pay to the victim player in the amount of money lost. Kerfoot has been suspended for 2 games and he gets about 10k per game... then he gotta pay Johnson 20k. Borderline players would feel the impact of losing that amount of cash more so than star players. Even for players earning more money, any vast amount will hurt.... if it was Lucic paying for his 2 games, he would have forked over $140k to Kole Sherwood. They are involved - the NHLPA attends the hearing but they are looking out for both players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, mll said: They are involved - the NHLPA attends the hearing but they are looking out for both players. Yup and more often (if not always) the aggressor rather than the victim. IMO the process should involve something like the DoPS putting forwards arguments and recommendations for the length of suspensions, but the final decision should be made by a committee/panel made up with 1 NHL rep, 1 NHLPA rep, 1 independent rep (i.e.: arbitrator, mediator, lawyer, judge, etc.). They should have the power to reduce, keep or increase DoPS's proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Lancaster said: All discipline needs to have the NHLPA involved. Whatever the league dishes out, the PA needs to have additional supplementary action done. Due to the nature of the game, this is literally one member attacking another. Have the offending player be forced to pay to the victim player in the amount of money lost. Kerfoot has been suspended for 2 games and he gets about 10k per game... then he gotta pay Johnson 20k. Borderline players would feel the impact of losing that amount of cash more so than star players. Even for players earning more money, any vast amount will hurt.... if it was Lucic paying for his 2 games, he would have forked over $140k to Kole Sherwood. They already take out the pay from the suspended player. It goes into a fund to help out injured players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: As soon as I saw this check, I said 5 and a game. Kerfoot probably got off light by actually giving a *&it for hitting his former team mate, but man that is getting into a career ending/life changing situation where this hit took place. Both going full speed and right on the back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 3 hours ago, mll said: They are involved - the NHLPA attends the hearing but they are looking out for both players. Is this not the definition of 'conflict of interest' ? I mean, would you ever hear of a trial where one lawyer represented both the defendant and the plaintiff? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) fair don't understand where the need to criticize the DoPS at every step comes from maybe it's time to go outside, read a book, smoke some ganja and make friends outside of internet echo chambers full of people who have very strong opinions on such a niche and specific thing in the world as how the disciplinary body of a sports league practices its standards Edited November 26, 2019 by 112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Shift-4 said: the NHLPA only steps in to challenge the length of suspensions. They are worse than DoPS! i mean yeah… they're literally the player's association… they work for the players... Edited November 26, 2019 by 112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 hours ago, 112 said: fair don't understand where the need to criticize the DoPS at every step comes from maybe it's time to go outside, read a book, smoke some ganja and make friends outside of internet echo chambers full of people who have very strong opinions on such a niche and specific thing in the world as how the disciplinary body of a sports league practices its standards I think fans have a reasonable gripe with the Bortuzzo suspension. The Kerfoot one is fine imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Fanuck said: Is this not the definition of 'conflict of interest' ? I mean, would you ever hear of a trial where one lawyer represented both the defendant and the plaintiff? Both players are members of the NHLPA. Why do you think suspensions are never all that lengthy. If a suspended player wants to appeal the NHLPA will help him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Fanuck said: Is this not the definition of 'conflict of interest' ? I mean, would you ever hear of a trial where one lawyer represented both the defendant and the plaintiff? Tell that to ICBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 9:45 AM, Monty said: Hathaway. 3 games for spitting. It's dangerous to spit. You can pass them diseases to peoples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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