Devron Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: I disagree. We get too many too much man penalties. That's a coaching problem, though it seems recently rectified. That line change tonight when they pulled Demmer, that's a coaching issue. Leivo being given too big of a role, coaching issue. Lack of scoring most likely leads back to the system being played... Coaching staff. I am not Pro-hire-Babs either. Gosh darn Green why’d they hire him in the first place anyways. I want Willie D back. Nah actually Bill Murray. I think he’d be good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: I disagree. We get too many too much man penalties. That's a coaching problem, though it seems recently rectified. That line change tonight when they pulled Demmer, that's a coaching issue. Leivo being given too big of a role, coaching issue. Lack of scoring most likely leads back to the system being played... Coaching staff. I am not Pro-hire-Babs either. Coach can't make guys come off the ice at a poor time that's on the players. Too many men calls are both player and coaches responsibility. The players need to be accountable for their part in poor line changes too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, *Buzzsaw* said: We all know what Green said after training camp... 'I've decided to go in a different direction'. But unfortunately reality has intervened and the team is struggling to generate shots or chances at even strength with only eight 5 on 5 goals in the last 11 games. Meanwhile, Goldobin, who had undeniable chemistry with Pettersson last year, (Pettersson's most productive spell during the 2018/2019 season was with Goldy) is tearing up the AHL, leading Utica in scoring with 8 goals/20 pts in 18 games. His linemate Reid Boucher is feasting with Goldy as a winger, with 13 goals in 18 games... one of his best ever starts. Green is happy to bring up 4th line grinders like Graovac and MacEwen, but at the same time as everyone is saying how the team needs a top six winger, Goldy is applying his talents to making Boucher look good. You gotta ask yourself... why not Goldy? What is there to lose? Team goes on a long roadtrip out East, its closeby to Utica... maybe give Goldy a chance to redeem himself? But it looks like Green is disinclined to change his mind... my bet is Goldy will continue to ride the bus in Utica. Green can't be wrong. The same league that Michael Chaput lit up a couple years ago? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, cuporbust said: The same league that Michael Chaput lit up a couple years ago? But Goldy has skillz... lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 The way the team is setup and how Green wants to play is just not a fit for Goldobin. Skilled guys need to be around the puck and won't do well playing irregular shifts and getting benched although playing well. See with Baertschi - Green has benched him in games were he was saying Baertschi was playing well. That saps confidence and for skilled players confidence is everything. They end up playing to not make a mistake instead of trying to create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: But Goldy has skillz... lol Lol. Im sure he does , and i hope he figures out what those skillz are before his appointment at work BC. It will save him allot of time. I mus admit it does take skill to miss the net that often. You would think he would hit it just by chance once in a while . Its actually a miracle to watch. Edited November 26, 2019 by cuporbust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, mll said: The way the team is setup and how Green wants to play is just not a fit for Goldobin. Skilled guys need to be around the puck and won't do well playing irregular shifts and getting benched although playing well. See with Baertschi - Green has benched him in games were he was saying Baertschi was playing well. That saps confidence and for skilled players confidence is everything. They end up playing to not make a mistake instead of trying to create. That and Goldobin finished the year not producing with Pettersson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDragon23 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Nope. Goldy was given a VERY long leash and he has not proven that he belongs in the NHL. That’s not hate or anything, it’s just cold hard facts. This argument keeps resurfacing for some reason. Let it go; it likely isn’t going to happen, yo. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 When healthy i would try that : Ferland Horvat Boeser Goldobin Pettersson Miller Roussel Sutter Gaudette Motte Beagle Virtanen Leivo Baertschi AHL Pearson Eriksson OUT I break the Boeser-Pete combo on purpose. A Line with Goldobin-Pettersson-Boeser would have been way too soft ; and Boeser and Horvat had a good chemistry before Pete’s arrival. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, BrockBoester said: Goldobin isn't a top 6 NHL forward. It's kind of sad that it was necessary for you to say that. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Lol. Im sure he does , and i hope he figures out what those skillz are before his appointment at work BC. It will save him allot of time. I mus admit it does take skill to miss the net that often. You would think he would hit it just by chance once in a while . Its actually a miracle to watch. How long would it take him to complete this challenge? And how close would he have to get? Edited November 26, 2019 by nuckin_futz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, *Buzzsaw* said: The problem is not the 4th liners... its the missing top six winger. Canucks do not have someone who works in that position. That is why it is worthwhile to give Goldy a try... he only works as a top sixer. Canucks were playing their best hockey when all 4 lines were firing. Loosing Motte was an unexpectedly large blow to the team as that 4th line provided a ton of spark. With Beagle and Sutter down the team has struggled even more. I entirely disagree with your assessment on the bottom 6 guys not being the problem. When our bottom 6 was producing, we were winning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 No. We've tried him a half a dozen times for it not to work. Just beating a dead horse. We're about to get a healthy bottom 6. When we were healthy we were played some of our best hockey. All our spark, grit and energy is gone but will be back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Goldobin should stay in the AHL for now. Let's not ruin his groove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Bill Murray for coach all the way! Get the other team laughing so hard they can't defend, I'm in!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: Lol why? Goldobin is a tweener at best. Trade him while he’s lighting up the AHL and still worth anything... Agree, and to put things in perspective Goldy might have 20 pts in 18 games....but Derrick Pouliot also has 18pts in 20 games. Should we trade back for him and call him up? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said: I've been disappointed with our call-ups thus far. Baer has managed to play himself off this team twice. MacEwen needs seasoning, he doesn't look close to an NHL player. Graovac is ok, but that bar was low to begin with. That being said, why not try Goldy? Give him maybe 2 games until Roussel/Ferland/Sutter/Beagle (all practicing) are ready. I don't know if I'd stick him on Petey's line right away but definitely a top 6 go. The apparent trade-off in defensive ability is non-existent when MacEwen can't clear a puck. Agreed call ups not showing any hunger, urgency like they want to stay? Probably scared to make a mistake Goldy? With Petey ? Soft line, will get man handled. Trade Goldy NOw, if there is interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 The only Canuck that was playing with any passion last night was Demko. The entire team was flat, out of sync, and the score flattered the effort if not for Demko. On to the Penguins, it's a looooooooooooooooooooong season. Goldobin isn't the answer folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 8 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said: The problem is not the 4th liners... its the missing top six winger. Canucks do not have someone who works in that position. That is why it is worthwhile to give Goldy a try... he only works as a top sixer. Miller - Petey - Goldobin Pearson - Horvat - Boeser Could be interesting But I don't see a lack of skill as the current issue, I see a lack of hustle, determination and desire to win the little battles as the reason we're losing. The dump and chase works when the forcheck is in hard but if that's not there the offensive system falls apart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said: I've been disappointed with our call-ups thus far. Baer has managed to play himself off this team twice. MacEwen needs seasoning, he doesn't look close to an NHL player. Graovac is ok, but that bar was low to begin with. That being said, why not try Goldy? Give him maybe 2 games until Roussel/Ferland/Sutter/Beagle (all practicing) are ready. I don't know if I'd stick him on Petey's line right away but definitely a top 6 go. The apparent trade-off in defensive ability is non-existent when MacEwen can't clear a puck. I was quite disappointed with Baer and MacEwen. I have not watched MacEwen in Utica but the posters here were raving about him about how he is exactly the physical presence that we need... for a big guy, he doesn't use his body much, doesn't bring meanness that is lacking on this team, and he seems to be a step behind the play. Considering that he played on Horvat's line, MacEwen's job was to play in a straight line, go hit some bodies, crash the net... It was disappointing. At age 23, how much seasoning does he need? Looked like a career minor leaguer to me. I thought Graovac was more noticeable than MacEwen. I think Baer lost motivation to play for Canucks. And I don't think there is a spot for him on the roster anymore. I think we should give Goldy a try. Replace Pearson/Leivo on the 1st line. Put Miller, Horvat, and Pearson together as a line. Goldy-EP-Boeser Miller-Horvat-Pearson Virtanen-Gaudette-Leivo Schaller-Graovac-Eriksson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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