Wanless Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: Sven was a bit snake bitten, he had some chances to score just didn't get the puck in the back of the net. 2pts in 6gp isn't horrible for a call up. Would've like to see him stay in the top 6 for his entire call up. It must take a bit of adjustment to go from AHL game speed to NHL game speed. Also, MacEwen has done Ziltch yet he has been flanking Bo in recent games. 0pts in 3gp, it has to be noted if people are going to rag on Sven then it should happen to every player called up given decent ice time/ linemates. Not sure what the Canucks were hoping from when icing Graovac, MacEwen and LE over players like Sven and Goldy when we had the 4 F injuries. We lacked secondary scoring, yet we chose to go with 4th line talent at best with size...players who don't know how to use their size...good luck ever being an NHL player if you are that size and can't run around like a bowling ball. Heck Virtanen needs to realize that, 4th line with 4F injured...where does that put him in a week or 2 when we have Sutter, Beagle, Ferland, Roussel and Motte back... The reason why those guys are in over others is the lack of forecheck. You'll notice in games the they win the forecheck is strong and fast, games that are lost its non existent. MacEwan was forechecking well and created the play that led to Miller's goal against Philly. Sven wasn't doing much in the way of pressuring the opposition and his skill isn't better than other players that are in the lineup that play the same role so he didn't stick 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahf149 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Problem with Goldy is that he lacks hockey IQ. He makes blind back hand passes. He would frustrate the hell out of Petterson. I am going to take a wild bet, this experiment wont last long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 hours ago, aGENT said: I want the kid so succeed SO badly! Does he also want it bad enough to get his nose dirty....? Whoa whoa whoa. We don't want him to be Kuznetsov, do we? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 hours ago, kilgore said: We are so past that now. He's now our new mascot. Kind of like Weekend with Bernie. It wouldn't be the same now without dragging Louie with us from city to city. Something is wrong. What other team in the NHL would not give Boucher, such a sniper in the league just below the NHL, an extended time with the big club....even if he didn't click right away. How many games in a row has he even had up here? I really wish Boucher would get called up for ten games or so. Give the guy one last real shot. You never know. Lots of teams didn't give Boucher a shot. He was waived at the beginning of the season and there were no takers. He's been waived multiple times in the past and no takers. Boucher's game is weird. He's really good in the AHL but when he comes up, he disappears or is ineffective. Another player like that was Archibald. Some players just don't have the speed to keep up with the game. Hopefully he addresses that sooner rather than later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 9 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: If Sutter, Ferland and Beagle are all good to go, this could be the lineup: Miller - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson - Horvat - Goldobin Ferland - Sutter - Gaudette Schaller - Beagle - Virtanen Leivo You forgot Roussel... MILLER - PETTERSSON - BOESER GOLDOBIN - HORVAT - VIRTANEN FERLAND - SUTTER - PEARSON SCHALLER - BEAGLE - ROUSSEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Me_ said: You forgot Roussel... MILLER - PETTERSSON - BOESER GOLDOBIN - HORVAT - VIRTANEN FERLAND - SUTTER - PEARSON SCHALLER - BEAGLE - ROUSSEL My lineup when everyone is healthy is on Page 3. The post that you quoted is what I was thinking what the lineup could be in a few days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Lots of teams didn't give Boucher a shot. He was waived at the beginning of the season and there were no takers. He's been waived multiple times in the past and no takers. Boucher's game is weird. He's really good in the AHL but when he comes up, he disappears or is ineffective. Another player like that was Archibald. Some players just don't have the speed to keep up with the game. Hopefully he addresses that sooner rather than later. Yeah I remember I was rooting for Archibald. He seemed to have everything it takes to be a steady fourth liner. It just seems odd that the highest scorer, in the league just below the NHL, can't get a longer look. Maybe he just needs more time adjusting up here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Sorry to burst a lot of guys bubble but Goldy is no trying out for the team. He is simply a place holder and he will be sent back down when our regulars are back. Like I have said in other posts, the only two Goldy and Baert replace is Boes and Petey and that ain't happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Hate this guy , hes got great skill, but so dam lazy away from the puck but guess we shall see how he does, but if he continues the same style, i really hope we can trade him and get something or send him back to utica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Sorry to burst a lot of guys bubble but Goldy is no trying out for the team. He is simply a place holder and he will be sent back down when our regulars are back. Like I have said in other posts, the only two Goldy and Baert replace is Boes and Petey and that ain't happening. ya forsure....id rather have roussel , ferland and sutter over baer and goldy anyday.... the way goldy plays it hurts us more than helps us, but i kinda agree with ya, hes a placeholder till sutter and ferland are back and once roussel conditioning stint is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, ahf149 said: Problem with Goldy is that he lacks hockey IQ. He makes blind back hand passes. He would frustrate the hell out of Petterson. I am going to take a wild bet, this experiment wont last long I disagree with that statement. Goldy IMO has very high hockey IQ, but simply is a lazy lazy player who's work ethic doesn't allow him to showcase his highly skilled game and high hockey IQ. He knows where to be and what to do with and without the puck, he just has zero commitment to do those things on a consistent basis. Corey Hergott Comets informer even said that the beginning of the season Goldy was having issues with committing to playing the full game, but started to show more of it recently. I highly doubt its enough to satisfy playing Green's game plan on a consistent shift to shift basis. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Wanless said: The reason why those guys are in over others is the lack of forecheck. You'll notice in games the they win the forecheck is strong and fast, games that are lost its non existent. MacEwan was forechecking well and created the play that led to Miller's goal against Philly. Sven wasn't doing much in the way of pressuring the opposition and his skill isn't better than other players that are in the lineup that play the same role so he didn't stick How did MacEwen not get an assist on that goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: How did MacEwen not get an assist on that goal Probably because he never touched the puck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, ahf149 said: Problem with Goldy is that he lacks hockey IQ. He makes blind back hand passes. He would frustrate the hell out of Petterson. I am going to take a wild bet, this experiment wont last long Pettersson and Goldobin showed some great chemistry in the past and apparently great friends off the ice too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Sent down and went unclaimed! If being back doesn’t light that fire under him nothing will! Probably his last chance at an NHL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Like the move we need offence need to push Leivo and Tanner And LE down the depth chart ....or off Get Beagle, Ferland and Roussel in .... now we are talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Canuckster86 said: Sven was a bit snake bitten, he had some chances to score just didn't get the puck in the back of the net. 2pts in 6gp isn't horrible for a call up. Would've like to see him stay in the top 6 for his entire call up. It must take a bit of adjustment to go from AHL game speed to NHL game speed. Also, MacEwen has done Ziltch yet he has been flanking Bo in recent games. 0pts in 3gp, it has to be noted if people are going to rag on Sven then it should happen to every player called up given decent ice time/ linemates. Not sure what the Canucks were hoping from when icing Graovac, MacEwen and LE over players like Sven and Goldy when we had the 4 F injuries. We lacked secondary scoring, yet we chose to go with 4th line talent at best with size...players who don't know how to use their size...good luck ever being an NHL player if you are that size and can't run around like a bowling ball. Heck Virtanen needs to realize that, 4th line with 4F injured...where does that put him in a week or 2 when we have Sutter, Beagle, Ferland, Roussel and Motte back... The majority of our injuries were to bottom 6 guys that play a gritty game. MacEwen and Graovac fit this model more. Graovac especially because we were/are out 2 centers, so he's surely in over the other guys. JB said this year they want to start calling up the prospect depth and playing them when injuries arose and did mention MacEwen specifically amongst others. Baertschi and Goldy are just guys that they didn't want to bury forever in Utica, so they're getting looks too and it's up to them to make it difficult to send back down. Sven didn't accomplish this. MacEwen for the most part is inexperienced at the NHL level, so he gets a bit more slack compared to a guy like Sven who claims he's got the mindset that he's still an NHLer. MacEwen is likely to be sent back down when healthy bodies return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, 5Fivehole0 said: How did MacEwen not get an assist on that goal He didn't touch the puck, but his pressure caused the turnover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzysl Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I hope green doesn’t put a tight leash on goldy and doesn’t put him on the 4th line after one mistake. Give goldy the same lives you give Leivo green! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Dazzle said: Lots of teams didn't give Boucher a shot. He was waived at the beginning of the season and there were no takers. He's been waived multiple times in the past and no takers. Boucher's game is weird. He's really good in the AHL but when he comes up, he disappears or is ineffective. Another player like that was Archibald. Some players just don't have the speed to keep up with the game. Hopefully he addresses that sooner rather than later. He seems to be the modern day Jason Krog. Some guys just kill it in the AHL and Crash Davis their way out of the NHL every time they get a sniff. Still, it seems such a waste of good talent. Rob Brown was an NHL All-Star (>100 points), then got sent down to the minors for YEARS, where he tore up the league year after year with over 100 points, then FINALLY, they brought him back up to the NHL years later for a second look and he was still pretty good. Boucher has something. I feel like there has to be a way to capitalize on it, but then again, seemed that way with Krog too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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