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[PGT] Buffalo Sabres at Vancouver Canucks | Dec. 07, 2019

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5 hours ago, kilgore said:

[Miller has been the] Most consistently good, for sure.  Night in, night out.

 

To trade a #1 pick, especially from a team with more rebuilding to do, BETTER get back a player who plays.............like Miller!  

It was a huge gamble, but it looks like it paid off.

 

5 hours ago, Wilfred said:

Justice is served.

 

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Boeser picks up 2 assists in a game where he couldn't get going at all. He hasn't been at his best, not even close really but he still finds a way to contribute. That's what great players do. Don't need to talk about Miller, his performance and effort game in game out speaks for itself. 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

I don't know about that.

 

Always easy to blame the goalie, but the checking issues were almost none existent at times

 

5 hours ago, DeNiro said:

I think everyone can see the importance of Edler to this team. 
 

Our pk is just not the same. We’re getting pinned in our end way too much as well.

Coming in with some late comments.

 

1. Exciting game and a big win. The team needed to put together wins and against Ottawa and Buffalo and it did.  

 

2. Despite Wilfred's comment that we don't need to talk about Miller, I am going to talk about him anyway. I agree with the consensus that he has been the Canucks best player so far this season. Personally, I would have named him first star of today's game. Last year he got 13 goals in in 75 games. This year he has matched that in 30 games. And it is not just scoring. He is playing good defence, is excellent in the face-off circle (78% today), and contributes to the physical game (2 hits today). He has also been helping out effectively on the PK. He led the forwards in TOI today. I did not like the trade for Miller when it occurred and if his performance this year had been similar to last year I would have continued to have reservations. But Miller has obviously played way above expectations. He is scoring at better than a point per game and does everything well. So that trade is looking great now. 

 

3. Hughes. I thought Hughes had another outstanding game. I was very glad to see him get on the board with an assist in OT as he deserved it. He almost scored in the first minute on a nice shot that almost got through Hutton. And he had a lot of great set-up during the game and some great looks himself. His 5-on-5 CORSI was 70% -- vastly better than anyone else in the game. Admittedly, he was not playing shutdown but, even so, that is a fantastic number. He does a great of job skating the puck out of trouble in his own end and keeping the puck in the O-zone with outstanding skating, passing, and hockey IQ. Like Miller, I think he has exceeded reasonable expectations by a big margin. He may not win the Calder but, barring injury, it seems pretty clear he will make the 3-man shortlist. Would be great to have a rookie in the top 3 for three years in a row. 

 

4. Horvat. Horvat was hard-matched against Eichel and still had a CORSI percenatge above 50%. He did not get on the scoreboard but he had an excellent defensive game. I hope he is okay. 

 

5. The fact that the Horvat line had the toughest minutes meant that the Beagle line had softer minutes than might be expected. But they still had a tough game and Beagle ended up -3. Their CORSI numbers were very low. Yes, Beagle and Ferland had some good high energy shifts, but they also had shifts where they had a hard time getting to the puck. We can't expect them to be great in their first game back and they weren't. 

 

6. Agree with DeNiro that what we are seeing should remind up of how valuable Edler is. The PK has struggled since Edler went down and Edler is the guy you want out there when the other team has pulled to goalie. But Myers did have a good game tonight. Even before he scored it looked like he was getting much more engaged offensively. 

 

7. Aside from Miller, the first line is still a bit quiet. Both EP and Boeser got on the board tonight, but I though Boeser in particular struggled and that we would expect those guys to do more, But fortunately the secondary scoring -- Roussel and Leivo -- came up big. Getting Roussel back has been great and Leivo seems to have really found his game. 

 

8 Referees.  Yes, the referees had a tough night. But I do not buy the story that referees are somehow biased against the Canucks. The Canucks still lead the lead in power play time and power play opportunities. Hard to see how that could happen if there were some general refereeing bias against the Canucks. As for the Horvat hit, I did not like it, but the referees did not see it, Neither did the coaches, the other players,  or most of the spectators. 

 

9. Demko was okay but not great. The Canucks gave up quite a few high quality chances and Demko was better than his save percentage of .821 suggests for tonight. Hope he can hang in there. But right now I think the single most important player on the team for making the playoffs is Marky. If Marky plays well, I think we are in. If not, I don't see how we can make it. 

 

10. This would be a great time to put together a win streak. The Canucks have two days off before facing Toronto. and then they play every other night till Christmas. With the Division very close from 1st place through 6th place, every point is big. 

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8 minutes ago, JamesB said:

 

9. Demko was okay but not great. The Canucks gave up quite a few high quality chances and Demko was better than his save percentage of .821 suggests for tonight. Hope he can hang in there. But right now I think the single most important player on the team for making the playoffs is Marky. If Marky plays well, I think we are in. If not, I don't see how we can make it. 

 

Yes, pretty much agree with you about Demko tonight...….My comment was poorly worded, but I think you articulated it much better...…...

 

Probably right about Marky as well

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1 hour ago, 6string said:

That's his problem he has no off season regime. He came in out of shape and was quickly placed with AHL'er lines at camp.

For one day, y'all need to get over that. He had a goal Greener wanted him to hit, Jake didn't. He got one day with the nobodies. For all we know he just missed the goal that was set for him. He didn't come in like the Pillsbury doughboy. His icetime was not effected nor did he need time to get into shape. Hell he was used quite a bit in preseason and looked pretty good. Pretty sure he even lit it up the very first preseason game with top 6 ice time. 

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16 hours ago, N7Nucks said:

Considering they are being asked about blown leads, maybe we should stop pretending it hasn't been a trend lately. Or maybe not, don't wanna be called a bandwagon fan.

Or, we should follow the players' lead and not make a big deal out of it because it happens?  Keep it in perspective, as they do?  Thank God they don't react like some here do with dramatics like the world is ending.  Battle through, learn from it and understand it happens.  Use it as a wake up call.

 

Bandwagon fans are often the ones who only support a team that wins (convincingly and without stumbling)....anything else and they're crap.  "Done here".  One person in particular says that then doesn't leave.  It's hiliarious.

 

I take it on the chin when I'm called a homer because, well, I am.  This is my team and I don't expect them to be perfect...this is for fun and enjoyment, not critical and mostly negative because that sucks the joy out of it.  Observations?  Sure.   Even during the game in a "this is bad" way. But not as an overall and ongoing theme - the sky is falling repeatedly gets to be a matter of chicken little.  Wait until the game ends to decide if it was good or bad and abandon ship.  Don't throw in the towel at the first sign of trouble (yes, at times there will be).  Hang in there and support the team.  They didn't pack it in or give up so why should we?

 

Went away so I didn't have to engage any further.  But here's a player basically saying "happens and you can adjust/learn from it".  They did so maybe we should follow their lead rather than prematurely packing it in during a game that isn't over.  Which is what some here tend to do.  They call out the team for giving up but they are actually the ones who give up on games before they're over.

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15 minutes ago, JamesB said:

7. Getting Roussel back has been great and Leivo seems to have really found his game. 

 

9. Demko was okay but not great. The Canucks gave up quite a few high quality chances and Demko was better than his save percentage of .821 suggests for tonight. Hope he can hang in there. But right now I think the single most important player on the team for making the playoffs is Marky. If Marky plays well, I think we are in. If not, I don't see how we can make it. 

 

Roussel is an absolute gem. I wanted to see AG and him on a line, and its been great. Jake seemingly having an awakening with them is a great bonus. AG needs to get much better on face-offs but if he can do that then maybe Sutter can slide in with Bo when he's healthy instead of breaking up this group.

 

Its easy to forget that Demko's a rookie goalie. He's going to have off moments but what I really like is his composure after a crappy goal and how calm his style is. Its part of the learning curve, but as long as the sv% is better an .910 and gaa under 3 he's going to be an excellent rookie backup. 

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5 minutes ago, Ryan Nugent Hopkins said:

6’8” Tyler Myers I think really lacks physicality on the back end.  The guy is bigger than everyone and is soft as butter, really nice goal though. 

Btw the refs were brutal tonight 

Dude, seriously, he makes a great Isaac Washington in this clip ...

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Ryan Nugent Hopkins said:

6’8” Tyler Myers I think really lacks physicality on the back end.  The guy is bigger than everyone and is soft as butter, really nice goal though. 

Btw the refs were brutal tonight 

Disagree that he's soft as butter. He's never been a goon type dman, but he takes care of business when needed.

 

Agree that the officiating was lopsided tonight despite us getting that PP in OT.

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