the grinder Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, ShawnAntoski said: Would you say the same for the Pits game or not ? pits game we were short on centers and couldn't match up against malkin , who got 5 points in that game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 This perception that the Canucks are blowing games in the third is way overblown. The fact is that they did blow a couple of games spectacularly then the press blew it up and started this crap. Click bait, journalism at its best. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, the grinder said: pits game we were short on centers and couldn't match up against malkin , who got 5 points in that game So for that game, it was the Pens playmakers making plays. Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, spur1 said: This perception that the Canucks are blowing games in the third is way overblown. The fact is that they did blow a couple of games spectacularly then the press blew it up and started this crap. Click bait, journalism at its best. Just having a discussion about our favorite hockey team. Hopefully, these are just blips in a long season and not trends.. Edited December 8, 2019 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, ShawnAntoski said: So for that game, it was the Pens playmakers making plays. Good point! yep it was 5 points out 8 goals pitts scored I would say malkin was difference maker in that game if we stopped malkin we wouldn't of lost that game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, the grinder said: yep it was 5 points out 8 goals pitts scored I would say malkin was difference maker in that game if we stopped malkin we wouldn't of lost that game Many ppl point to the Pittsburgh game as the Canucks missed out to put away a Penguins team without Crosby. Reality is, Malkin always plays better when Crosby ain’t in the line up. And out of Crosby and Malkin’s careers, Malkin is definitely much more of a Canuck killer than Crosby. Putting that combination together, we got the result. If we played a Pittsburgh team when they didn’t have Malkin but with Crosby in the line up, things could be very different. Edited December 8, 2019 by ruilin96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 12 hours ago, Dats hockey said: We honestly aren’t that young The core is young. Thats the point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Here is the problem: we were not playing with lead for majority of the games. They allowed first goal in the game, which we are playing catch-up for about 2/3 of the season . Once we get the first goal, we changed our strategy but this backfired because we actually don't learn how to press to get an insurance goal while sitting back at the same time. Once we get insurance goal, we still are not even playing with freedom to get some more and we would rather to sit back. They were not used with playing with the lead. If they were playing with the lead and get used to it, we learn more about little things that would be able to lockdown their opponents. There are many things that they haven't learn because of playing catch-up hockey for majority of the season. If we get more first goal of the game, we then might be able to adjust even more and learn how to lockdown the lead and not giving up anything. The key here is to keep on getting first goal of the game and we can then learn something about playing with the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, coolboarder said: Here is the problem: we were not playing with lead for majority of the games. They allowed first goal in the game, which we are playing catch-up for about 2/3 of the season . Once we get the first goal, we changed our strategy but this backfired because we actually don't learn how to press to get an insurance goal while sitting back at the same time. Once we get insurance goal, we still are not even playing with freedom to get some more and we would rather to sit back. They were not used with playing with the lead. If they were playing with the lead and get used to it, we learn more about little things that would be able to lockdown their opponents. There are many things that they haven't learn because of playing catch-up hockey for majority of the season. If we get more first goal of the game, we then might be able to adjust even more and learn how to lockdown the lead and not giving up anything. The key here is to keep on getting first goal of the game and we can then learn something about playing with the lead. The past 4 games (and since the Pittsburgh game): We got the first goal last night. And the game before that. Oilers scored first but we tied it up in the first Scored first in the first of back to backs vs the Oilers We've been playing with the lead. The problem is, other teams also learn to battle back and that's how hockey is. Doesn't signify a problem...just the nature of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Borvat Posted December 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) It does appear that so far this season for whatever reason (defending a lead most often) they have been out shot in third periods. Losing if they have a lead is a bit blown out of proportion. Based on their first period shot and goal totals they understand the importance of the first goal and it indicates they are ready to play. Defending a lead is an important thing to learn - all championship teams need this tool in the tool box. Edited December 8, 2019 by Borvat 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinyoureyesontheprize Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 when the team stops attacking of course they will lose the lead. They tend to play a dump and chase game which translates into defensive hockey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockBoester Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Dats hockey said: We honestly aren’t that young Yes and no, it depends on your individual definition of "young" - but statistically we are below average age. https://www.rosterresource.com/nhl-roster-breakdowns/ Crazy to see, based on this chart, that the Kings are the only team with an average above 30 years of age. Really is a young man's league these days, eh! Edited December 8, 2019 by BrockBoester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, Borvat said: It does appear that so far this season for whatever reason (defending a lead most often) they have been out shot in third periods. Losing if they have a lead is a bit blown out of proportion. Based on their first period shot and goal totals they understand the importance of the first goal and it indicates they are ready to play. Defending a lead is an important thing to learn - all championship teams need this tool in the tool box. Pretty good reminder to take corsi with a big ol grain of salt... and 10-1-1 when leading after 1 (if i'm reading this right) pretty much blows the "can't hold a lead" narrative out of the water. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4quality Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, BrockBoester said: Yes and no, it depends on your individual definition of "young" - but statistically we are below average age. https://www.rosterresource.com/nhl-roster-breakdowns/ Crazy to see, based on this chart, that the Kings are the only team with an average above 30 years of age. Really is a young man's league these days, eh! And Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BrockBoester Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 46 minutes ago, DS4quality said: And Pittsburgh On the chart for "top 20" players which they assume to be the team's main roster/lineup, it has Pittsburgh listed at 29.7. This is despite having the oldest player in the NHL in Matt Cullen (43.1)! In comparison, the Kings oldest player is Peter Budaj (37.2) Our oldest player is of course Loui Eriksson (34.4) Our forward group is an average of 26.4 years old whereas the league average is 27.7 - the defense is 27.6 years average whereas league average is 28.2. Overall the average age of the Canucks is 27.2 compared to the league average of 28.2 making us the fourth youngest team in the league behind Winnipeg (27.2), Columbus (27.1) and of course Colorado (27.0) So yeah. I'll stick with my original statement! Young team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 14 hours ago, hlinkas wrister said: They may not be the youngest team in the league but they are still a group that is new to success. Learning to win is a step in the process, expecting to win is the goal. Interesting piece from a Washington analyst: https://novacapsfans.com/2019/10/24/nhl-tale-of-the-tape-where-do-the-washington-capitals-rank-in-age-height-and-weight-for-the-2019-2020-season/ We're middle of the pack in age and weight, but first in average height (way to go, Myers) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Me_ said: The core is young. Thats the point. Was “the core” the only thing protecting our leads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 hours ago, bishopshodan said: Yes, the Canucks are pretty young. https://www.rosterresource.com/nhl-roster-breakdowns/ That thing also thinks our youngest player is Pettersson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, ilduce39 said: Pretty good reminder to take corsi with a big ol grain of salt... and 10-1-1 when leading after 1 (if i'm reading this right) pretty much blows the "can't hold a lead" narrative out of the water. not really.. even though we are 10-1-1.. we have blown 4 leads in the 3rd period.. 2 of them we came back to win in OT or shootout.. the other 2 we lost.. that's 4 out of 12 with the lead.. so out of the 12 games that we had a lead going into the 3rd period.. we have blown 4 of them.. so 33%.. we came back to win 2 of them but that's still a blown lead in the 3rd.. and that's not including games that we were badly outplayed in the 3rd period.. the rangers game come to the top of my head... i don't think it's blowing it out of proportion when i think it's fair to say 50% or more of our games when leading after 2.. we were not just outplayed.. but badly outplayed in the 3rd Edited December 9, 2019 by wai_lai416 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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