spur1 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 13 hours ago, surtur said: It was determined that the puck had intended to get to the player eventually hence the no interference call...or boarding on the play. Lol...guess there is no such thing as interference then as it matters not where you stand on the ice the puck will get there eventually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Boeser kind of sucks these days. He looks frustrated. Skating is pretty poor, not very fast, has a wicked shot that he doesn't use often. He just looks like he's struggling. Did he switch his shampoo or something? lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: way too many shots allowed, it was a problem last year and its becoming a problem again this year. Far too much open ice for teams to get in and get shots on. Marky won't be able to stop 40 per night all year. I don't like how they're using Myers now either, he was much better paired with Hughes. Myers needs to be skating with the puck, when he's forced to collapse back he makes a lot more mistakes. So on the playing to strengths point, I think he's blowing it with Myers and Fantenberg together. I get that they have to make up for the loss of Edler, but he's doing that by using Hughes for too many minutes, that kids going to get injured. We also have guys on the roster that can close out games, but for some reason Green can't get them in a position to do that. I've included the stats of up to the 20 game mark of shots against- nothing crazy there. But on the topic of shots against- is that indicative of systems in general or just poor defensive play by the players? On nights where the Canucks do give up a lot of shots, they tend to shoot themselves in the foot with turnovers. VGK had about 40 shots in regulation and I was watching the defensive play closely- Canucks weren't turning the puck over in their zone like they have in recent games and VGK was able to generate. Isn't that VG just showing they are a good team? Personally, I thought Myers and Fantenberg had a pretty decent game last night, but if you take issue with deployment, ok I get that. I think with Myers that's just the type of player he is- most of the time he can be good to steady and others might not be so hot. With giving up leads I especially think it's because of the players. This is a team still trying to find consistency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Boeser kind of sucks these days. He looks frustrated. Skating is pretty poor, not very fast, has a wicked shot that he doesn't use often. He just looks like he's struggling. Did he switch his shampoo or something? lol He has moments of brilliance but his intensity and speed appear lacking at times to me. I also think that we have high expectations for him so there's that. I am not too worried though, could say the same about most everyone on the team at times except Petey and Quinn who always seem in "game mode" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Jake for Pool Party? Too risky? That’s quite a discussion topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chicken. said: He has moments of brilliance but his intensity and speed appear lacking at times to me. I also think that we have high expectations for him so there's that. I am not too worried though, could say the same about most everyone on the team at times except Petey and Quinn who always seem in "game mode" With Bo and Brock both struggling, I wonder if they have an injury they're trying to play through. Boeser looks more like a late 1st round pick these days, hope he can regain his touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chicken. Posted December 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: With Bo and Brock both struggling, I wonder if they have an injury they're trying to play through. Boeser looks more like a late 1st round pick these days, hope he can regain his touch. All bias aside, 34 points in 36 games for Brock is nothing to sniff at for any player even if his deployment is favorable 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, Chicken. said: All bias aside, 34 points in 36 games for Brock is nothing to sniff at for any player even if his deployment is favorable lol, true! I'm overreacting, as usual 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: lol, true! I'm overreacting, as usual We are all Knee Jerk Canucks at some point... passion does that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 56 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Disappointing to give a division rival a point so late in the game, but at this point, a win is a win.... Although it was great to see Petey with a brace, I agree with what Cheech said: The 1st unit is too tentative right now. On one of the PP's Petey had a solid look with either Brock or Bo open in front, but chose not to try and thread it through the one defender in front of him. It was basically a diagonal version of the play Bo made to Tanev to win the game, but Petey was reluctant to try it. Instead, we saw the obligatory 2 dozen passes back and forth, before Hughes ultimately decides that he might as well try a low percentage shot, because nobody is close to getting open... The early season PP didn't play with this hesitation and I'm not at all surprised that the second unit was better than the first last night. My one hope is that the laser that Petey rang off the post in the last PP makes him decide to try shooting more often. Regarding the refs: I agree that there were two brutal missed calls last night and the one on Holden was especially egregious....but... The Canucks had 5 advantages to the Knights' 1. Zebras are always going to be reluctant to pile on more than that. We all hate "game management" but it's a reality in the NHL and has been forever. Totally agree with the majority on Fantenberg. He's been a very pleasant surprise and should stay in the lineup over Benn or Stecher. (I'd sit Stecher and keep Benn's size in the lineup myself) Bring on the Pens! 1st unit is not utilizing Bo at all. Bo gets at most one or two touches during the powerplay. I think it's too simple, they need to diversify their attacking options. I think they might as well crash the net when shooting lanes don't open up. Miller and Horvat are big bodies and EP is deceptively good at picking up rebound goals. Let EP float a shot on goal with Bo and Miller near the net and Boeser and Hughes staying back. EP can hang around the net for any rebound. 2nd unit looked much better partly because when things don't work, they just crash the net. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, riffraff said: I am now a fan of fantenberg Can't spell Fantenberg without "Fan".... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, SILLY GOOSE said: I've included the stats of up to the 20 game mark of shots against- nothing crazy there. But on the topic of shots against- is that indicative of systems in general or just poor defensive play by the players? On nights where the Canucks do give up a lot of shots, they tend to shoot themselves in the foot with turnovers. VGK had about 40 shots in regulation and I was watching the defensive play closely- Canucks weren't turning the puck over in their zone like they have in recent games and VGK was able to generate. Isn't that VG just showing they are a good team? Personally, I thought Myers and Fantenberg had a pretty decent game last night, but if you take issue with deployment, ok I get that. I think with Myers that's just the type of player he is- most of the time he can be good to steady and others might not be so hot. With giving up leads I especially think it's because of the players. This is a team still trying to find consistency. it's indicative of a young,rebuilding team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, khay said: 1st unit is not utilizing Bo at all. Bo gets at most one or two touches during the powerplay. I think it's too simple, they need to diversify their attacking options. I think they might as well crash the net when shooting lanes don't open up. Miller and Horvat are big bodies and EP is deceptively good at picking up rebound goals. Let EP float a shot on goal with Bo and Miller near the net and Boeser and Hughes staying back. EP can hang around the net for any rebound. 2nd unit looked much better partly because when things don't work, they just crash the net. 2nd unit plays a simpler game and gets results from it, agreed. Still don't understand why the 1st unit don't rotate more. Let QH, Miller and EP circle around the zone and behind the net as they please and just improvise. IMO that's how the best PP:s operate (Tampa, Boston etc.) and I think we have the players for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: I will say this Alf,.. out in a limb with it, and I’m sure to get hacked and heckled, but here goes.. Jakes play is constantly provocative, his play is on a constant curve upward in improved play.. his skating, his optional play thinking, his shot, his physicality .. even to the point last night where he is helping crowd the aggression of a player like Reaves. Jake is going to be a beast next season, he is starting to taste it. This swing is not indifferent to the progression of a Bertuzzi or Neely. I’m not saying he will get to that level, but I’m sure Green is working on giving him that opportunity when he is ready. Jake is worth keeping 3 more years. Guadette. Man o’ man, By the end of this season this young man will recognize his FULL potential. I think he is FANTASTIC right now,. But his full game and ceiling is untapped. Boeser... has he flatlined?. Is his game well read to the opposition? That curve to his best “game” and play seems to be on hold right now. perhaps his Father is not doing well and there in lies a completely understandable reason to this.. But RIGHT now, ... and I am not wanting to trade any of these 3 players away, But RIGHT now, I would be moving Boeser for something substantial before Jake. The biggest conundrum on this Team is legitimately the Eriksson situation. 6m in cap holds a complete, contributing player to this Team that could compliment any of the 3 players above, and the Canucks Team. add, Bartschi and the Luongo Hack, the grand total lies around 12m. ps. Or situation is pragmatically one that has to “play out”. Any moves other than the ones to players that have become redundant to us, will be regrettable. I agree with most of this. (Not sure on the timeline) One thing that is easily forgotten is that it usually takes PFs longer to develop as pros. The 'Nucks gave up on Neely, the Isles gave up on Bert, etc, etc. I think Virt is on a decent trajectory and it would be a big mistake to give up on him now. in fact, his slow (but steady) development might turn out to be to the 'Nucks' advantage. IIRC, JV becomes an RFA at the end of the season and although he'll certainly be due a raise, it should be affordable, considering his current rate of 1.5 million. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 That was a bit of surprise but not much, they can't lose them all they are too good for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzhaken Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Man, Chris Tanev is a beauty. What a move, and what a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: I agree with most of this. (Not sure on the timeline) One thing that is easily forgotten is that it usually takes PFs longer to develop as pros. The 'Nucks gave up on Neely, the Isles gave up on Bert, etc, etc. I think Virt is on a decent trajectory and it would be a big mistake to give up on him now. in fact, his slow (but steady) development might turn out to be to the 'Nucks' advantage. IIRC, JV becomes an RFA at the end of the season and although he'll certainly be due a raise, it should be affordable, considering his current rate of 1.5 million. I've said this before and got plenty of hate about it, but BB needs to go, imo. His numbers give him a value much higher than he actually brings to the table and they'd be able to get a pretty solid dman back for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Can't spell Fantenberg without "Fan".... There's no I in Fantenberg, eh? ************* Btw, was thinking the same thing about sitting TS instead of Benn. It's a tough call, I want to see Fanta more(like many others here). If Myers keeps his hot potato act goin, we'd be better to sit HIM for a game. Bulldog waiving makes even more sense now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, stawns said: I've said this before and got plenty of hate about it, but BB needs to go, imo. His numbers give him a value much higher than he actually brings to the table and they'd be able to get a pretty solid dman back for him. Sell high! But seriously, kind of a scary idea to trade away a player like Boeser. Who knows if he's just going through a slump or this is as good as it gets. He's still young, so I would be hesitant to trade him yet. I imagine the return would be very good though. Tempting. What could be concerning for Brock moving forward is his health. He's had a couple of bad injuries so far, and how he's now playing more physically this year, well, I won't jinx it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44ever Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) Lol at people who think the refs are out to get Vancouver every game and go for a Vegas team that they literally screwed worse then any team in the last decade from last years opening round in a game seven quit being a victim. i wouldn’t brag too hard they will come back mad and still haven’t lost to us in regulation but I’m happy we ended up winning against hose expantion erotica cirque de salei Golden knight experience we seldom outscore our mistakes and tonight we did, I know we only have like 4 regulation wins in our last 25 games and this doesent help that hit damn it a wins a win a win win win Edited December 20, 2019 by Bertuzzi44ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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