RUPERTKBD Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, stawns said: I've said this before and got plenty of hate about it, but BB needs to go, imo. His numbers give him a value much higher than he actually brings to the table and they'd be able to get a pretty solid dman back for him. JB would probably be run out on a rail.... ...but if he could somehow flip BB for a guy like Miro Heiskanen..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: JB would probably be run out on a rail.... ...but if he could somehow flip BB for a guy like Miro Heiskanen..... I think that bar might be a bit high, but he'd be able to get a young top 4 dman, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Tail Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Since Leivo is inured.. And this would depend on Sutter being back for next game. I wouldn’t mind seeing Virtanen Horvat and Gaudette play on the same line. At the same time I don’t really want to break up the Roussel line. Roussel Sutter Pearson could be a good crash bang 3rd line. Roussel and Gaudette have obvious chemistry but God could maybe slide in and jump start Bo as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, khay said: 1st unit is not utilizing Bo at all. Bo gets at most one or two touches during the powerplay. I think it's too simple, they need to diversify their attacking options. I think they might as well crash the net when shooting lanes don't open up. Miller and Horvat are big bodies and EP is deceptively good at picking up rebound goals. Let EP float a shot on goal with Bo and Miller near the net and Boeser and Hughes staying back. EP can hang around the net for any rebound. 2nd unit looked much better partly because when things don't work, they just crash the net. Sometimes it’s just outside passes eh “to Hughes, to Boeser, to Petterson” I’ve noticed as well. 2nd unit showed some urgency last night was good need both working. Maybe split the time a little more fairly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, SILLY GOOSE said: I've included the stats of up to the 20 game mark of shots against- nothing crazy there. But on the topic of shots against- is that indicative of systems in general or just poor defensive play by the players? On nights where the Canucks do give up a lot of shots, they tend to shoot themselves in the foot with turnovers. VGK had about 40 shots in regulation and I was watching the defensive play closely- Canucks weren't turning the puck over in their zone like they have in recent games and VGK was able to generate. Isn't that VG just showing they are a good team? Personally, I thought Myers and Fantenberg had a pretty decent game last night, but if you take issue with deployment, ok I get that. I think with Myers that's just the type of player he is- most of the time he can be good to steady and others might not be so hot. With giving up leads I especially think it's because of the players. This is a team still trying to find consistency. I do think it has to do with deployment + for some reason they can't seem to coach them out of having fragile 3rd periods. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me when you'v got quality closers like Beagle, Roussel, Motte, etc. On the deployment side I really think Benn, Stecher and Hughes, Myers makes the most sense to me, thats where I think Benn and Myers looked the best this year. But if Benn can't get out of his funk with Stech, I'd rather see him with Tanev and try out Fantenberg Stecher. Edited December 20, 2019 by Jimmy McGill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the grinder Posted December 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2019 10 hours ago, peaches5 said: Okay, Jake is not a power forward and never will be. hmm he has size and speed , a good shot goes to the net sounds like a power forward to me 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) Despite, how they won and been losing, I am just hoping for a playoff berth this season (see what happens when there in). I believe the playoff experience would do alot for the developement of this young core (and to a certain extent, the current rough stretch should help develope team character). Edited December 20, 2019 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Leave Gawd as 2C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: I do think it has to do with deployment + for some reason they can't seem to coach them out of having fragile 3rd periods. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me when you'v got quality closers like Beagle, Roussel, Motte, etc. If beagle/Schaller/motte can keep their chemistry going I think you might see them more at the end of games. Wouldn't be surprised if Roussel gets time with Bo as well to closegames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 hours ago, stawns said: I've said this before and got plenty of hate about it, but BB needs to go, imo. His numbers give him a value much higher than he actually brings to the table and they'd be able to get a pretty solid dman back for him. I don't recall anybody ever saying anything but Brock is a keeper, but I agree with you. HIs next QO starts at $7.5m, but of course that would be a slap in the face, so lets start at $8m/season Brock is comanding busman's wages but he cannot drive the bus. I think he is gone before his next contract 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcy2 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, lmm said: I don't recall anybody ever saying anything but Brock is a keeper, but I agree with you. HIs next QO starts at $7.5m, but of course that would be a slap in the face, so lets start at $8m/season Brock is comanding busman's wages but he cannot drive the bus. I think he is gone before his next contract I am so glad I am not alone in thinking this as well. BB is a good player but he is not first line wing material. His deal is bad imo because he will not be worth 7.5 million plus. For around 4.5 to 5.5 million, sure, sign him but 7.5 and up is a no go zone for Brock. So what’s the solution? No one knows, we all thought he have a 40 goal scorer but turns out he is exactly what he is, a 25 goal man and just an ordinary top 6. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, ktcy2 said: I am so glad I am not alone in thinking this as well. BB is a good player but he is not first line wing material. His deal is bad imo because he will not be worth 7.5 million plus. For around 4.5 to 5.5 million, sure, sign him but 7.5 and up is a no go zone for Brock. So what’s the solution? No one knows, we all thought he have a 40 goal scorer but turns out he is exactly what he is, a 25 goal man and just an ordinary top 6. I'd be interested to see how many primary assists Brock has to players not named Petey. and compare that to his give aways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 hours ago, stawns said: I've said this before and got plenty of hate about it, but BB needs to go, imo. His numbers give him a value much higher than he actually brings to the table and they'd be able to get a pretty solid dman back for him. I do beleive this season HAS to play out with our youth intact.. including Boeser,.. Thats not to say that somewhere after this season, something of a valued asset isn’t teamed up to bring something better. There are, Only a few 6m contracts that can be handed out. But could you imagine having Taylor Hall or E Kane instead of the Eriksson / Luongo Debacle ? ..or even trading S Bartschi when he was playing well with Bo. The Luongo / Eriksson situation is what.. a 9m per air gap on our Cap. That hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, ktcy2 said: I am so glad I am not alone in thinking this as well. BB is a good player but he is not first line wing material. His deal is bad imo because he will not be worth 7.5 million plus. For around 4.5 to 5.5 million, sure, sign him but 7.5 and up is a no go zone for Brock. So what’s the solution? No one knows, we all thought he have a 40 goal scorer but turns out he is exactly what he is, a 25 goal man and just an ordinary top 6. 24 minutes ago, ktcy2 said: I am so glad I am not alone in thinking this as well. BB is a good player but he is not first line wing material. His deal is bad imo because he will not be worth 7.5 million plus. For around 4.5 to 5.5 million, sure, sign him but 7.5 and up is a no go zone for Brock. So what’s the solution? No one knows, we all thought he have a 40 goal scorer but turns out he is exactly what he is, a 25 goal man and just an ordinary top 6. Boeser has 12 goals ad 22 assists, Pettersson has 16 goals and 21 assists, Bo has 9 goals and 18 assists. Boeser belongs on the first line having 2nd most points on the team . so by your thinking we should get rid of Miller , but even Miller has more points than Bo, Boeser makes 5.8 mill for 3 years, I wouldn't worry about what he will make in three years. he is still quite young and learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Boeser kind of sucks these days. He looks frustrated. Skating is pretty poor, not very fast, has a wicked shot that he doesn't use often. He just looks like he's struggling. Did he switch his shampoo or something? lol I guess you missed last nights game, where Boeser made an amazing pass to Petey and Petey scored. ya that sure is sucking!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philtbc829 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Well a minor miracle did happen .....Merry Xmas Nucks fans....will the xmas hockey spirit keep on giving? ....two to go before the break... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Chicken. said: He has moments of brilliance but his intensity and speed appear lacking at times to me. I also think that we have high expectations for him so there's that. I am not too worried though, could say the same about most everyone on the team at times except Petey and Quinn who always seem in "game mode" even Petey and Quinn have their down moments too. bt I wouldn't trade those three for anything, they are our future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, bree2 said: I guess you missed last nights game, where Boeser made an amazing pass to Petey and Petey scored. ya that sure is sucking!!!! That was a nice pass. He`s changed his game this season though, playing more physical, gritty. He`s getting hammered out there at times. Last year he would sit in the slot and fire rockets for goals. I don`t really see him doing that this year. And when he does, he takes too long to shoot. Same with Bo, he was the man last year. But this year he looks like an average middle 6 player, IMO. Yet, their stats say something different, they seem to still be able to pick up points here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: I do beleive this season HAS to play out with our youth intact.. including Boeser,.. Thats not to say that somewhere after this season, something of a valued asset isn’t teamed up to bring something better. There are, Only a few 6m contracts that can be handed out. But could you imagine having Taylor Hall or E Kane instead of the Eriksson / Luongo Debacle ? ..or even trading S Bartschi when he was playing well with Bo. The Luongo / Eriksson situation is what.. a 9m per air gap on our Cap. That hurts. Air gap ! is that what Jim has been saying all this time? I thought he said age gap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laheys Liquor Posted December 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ktcy2 said: I am so glad I am not alone in thinking this as well. BB is a good player but he is not first line wing material. His deal is bad imo because he will not be worth 7.5 million plus. For around 4.5 to 5.5 million, sure, sign him but 7.5 and up is a no go zone for Brock. So what’s the solution? No one knows, we all thought he have a 40 goal scorer but turns out he is exactly what he is, a 25 goal man and just an ordinary top 6. Lmao you serious..? the guy is only 22 years old... which means he is 3 to 5 years away from his prime... and all signs point to him probably scoring 30-40 a year by then.. also.. 4.5 mil to 5.5 mill per..? are you living in the past by about 10 years..? sorry but all these criticisms of Brock are mostly garbage takes. 2 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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