nuckin_futz Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) U.S. air strike kills top Iranian military general and Iraqi commander at Baghdad’s international airport Iranian Major-General Qassem Soleimani, seen here in 2016, was reportedly killed Friday in an air strike in Baghdad. (File photo) The Associated Press Iranian Major-General Qassem Soleimani, head of the elite Quds Force, and Iraqi militia commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis were killed early on Friday in an air strike on their convoy at Baghdad airport, an Iraqi militia spokesman told Reuters. “The American and Israeli enemy is responsible for killing the mujahideen Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis and Qassem Soleimani,” said Ahmed al-Assadi, a spokesman for Iraq’s Popular Mobilisation Forces umbrella grouping of Iran-backed militias. U.S. officials told Reuters that strikes had been carried out against two targets linked to Iran in Baghdad. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to give any further details. Three rockets hit Baghdad International Airport, killing five members of Iraqi paramilitary groups and two “guests”, Iraqi paramilitary groups said on Friday. The rockets landed near the air cargo terminal, burning two vehicles, killing and injuring several people. Supporters of Iranian-backed Iraqi paramilitary groups stormed the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad on Tuesday following U.S. air raids on Sunday against Kataib Hezbollah militia bases in retaliation for missile attacks that killed a U.S. contractor in northern Iraq last week. Tension between the United States and Iran has ramped up in the region over U.S. economic sanctions hurting the Iranian economy. The two sides have traded blame over attacks on oil installations, militia arms depots as well as military bases hosting U.S. forces. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-one-killed-others-injured-as-rockets-fall-on-baghdad-international/ ************************** This has potential to become a really big deal. Edited January 3, 2020 by nuckin_futz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllOursBoys Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Khomeini - America "can't do a damn thing" to us.....boy, was he wrong! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 so i guess now the iranians will respond? there will be escalation?? which side will be more stupid? exactly why did trump cancel/withdraw from the treaty with Iran? maga ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I'm wondering how many civilians were injured/killed, considering it is technically a war crime. Potential ramifications for the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 This is Trumps 2020 push.....and Iran has a lot of that black gold so it fits the USA model. Iran is not to be messed with. I don't know how much blood will be shed but this could get really, really ugly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, coastal.view said: so i guess now the iranians will respond? there will be escalation?? which side will be more stupid? exactly why did trump cancel/withdraw from the treaty with Iran? maga ? Of course they will respond. Of course there will be escalation. This is most likely now a proxy war with Russia backing Iran. Who will be more stupid? Hard to say. Trump wanted to avoid getting into more wars. Now he's got one. The plan was to withdraw from the JCPOA (Iran nuclear deal) then place Iran under crippling sanctions and force them back to the negotiating table to make a better deal than Obama made. However, Iran has refused to negotiate without sanctions relief. Usually replying with something to the effect of "go eat a d*ck" It's a huge cluster frack. And you have this situation. Qassem Soleimani is a huge deal in Iran and the region. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post *Buzzsaw* Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 This was one of the more idiotic foreign policy decisions Trump has taken. This has escalated the whole conflict enormously. Trump has killed a high profile Iranian General and a key Iranian government figure. Trump had justification for launching the first airstrike on the Iranian backed militia after one of its contractors died. There was no justification for this. Iran will respond... but worse than that, this airstrike in Iraq, at their International Civil Airport, will cause Iraqi outrage. Both the Iraq government and its people will consider this, quite rightly, as an infringement on their territorial sovereignty. I would not be surprised to see the Iraqis tell the US get all its soldiers out of Iraq very soon. If that happens, then all the 5000+ dead Americans who died kicking Saddam Hussein out and installing a pro-US regime in Iraq will have been for nothing. Trump will have handed the keys to Iraq right to to the Iranians. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllOursBoys Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, coastal.view said: so i guess now the iranians will respond? there will be escalation?? which side will be more stupid? exactly why did trump cancel/withdraw from the treaty with Iran? maga ? Iran has consistently threatened to rip out the "cancer" of Israel from the Middle East. Iran refers to America as the "Great Satan" and Israel as his offspring. For the last 75 years, Iran has made these threats. Under the nuclear deal, Obama chose the policy of appeasement and so he Iran 150 Billion dollars to Iran, promising many sanctions would be lifted so they could continue their nuclear enrichment activities...all for national "energy" purposes of course. Iran doesn't want peace with the US or Israel, they want "Islamic" peace with the US and Israel subjugated under Islamic Sharia law. That will NEVER happen and tonight is just the start of what is sure to turn into a clash of civilizations, the 21 century civilization vs 17th century civilization. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Toews Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 Stole this, it came accompanied with the caption "Nostradumbass". 3 7 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 I guess Lil Kim doesn't want to be left out tonight............. North Korea's official newspaper warns of an "immediate and powerful" strike Fri 3 Jan 2020 01:40:22 GMT North Korea's official newspaper Rodong Sinmun said Friday that any attempt to infringe upon NK's dignity and survival should be met by an "immediate and powerful" strike calling for all-out efforts to build up its national defense capability "An action that would violate our republic's dignity and survival should be met by an immediate and powerful strike" "(We) should maintain invincible military power and beef it up," "It is the core initiative of our party's national defense building to make no one dare to think about using military power against us. We should marshal all resources of our country for defense-building efforts." https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/north-koreas-official-newspaper-warns-of-an-immediate-and-powerful-strike-20200103 ********************** US foreign policy in these two situations has hit a brick wall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post *Buzzsaw* Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, ItsAllOursBoys said: Iran has consistently threatened to rip out the "cancer" of Israel from the Middle East. Iran refers to America as the "Great Satan" and Israel as his offspring. For the last 75 years, Iran has made these threats. Under the nuclear deal, Obama chose the policy of appeasement and so he Iran 150 Billion dollars to Iran, promising many sanctions would be lifted so they could continue their nuclear enrichment activities...all for national "energy" purposes of course. Iran doesn't want peace with the US or Israel, they want "Islamic" peace with the US and Israel subjugated under Islamic Sharia law. That will NEVER happen and tonight is just the start of what is sure to turn into a clash of civilizations, the 21 century civilization vs 17th century civilization. Iran is not a democracy and is not a friend to the US. But the rest of your comments are nonsense... you have been watching too much Faux News. The chances of Iran taking out Israel and the US is zero.... both of them dwarf Iran in miltary power. Both the US and Israel have Nuclear weapons to deter Iran. Israel would use them instantly if they thought they were threatened. Iran is the leading Shia Muslim state and as such will protect Shia Muslims... they are doing that in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen and in Syria, all countries have either majority Shia or large minorities. Their tactics are not pretty, but they will continue as long as they feel Shias are threatened by either Sunni Muslims, (Saudi Arabia) or Israel. The Shia minorities in Yemen are being systematically bombed and starved by Saudi. In Lebanon, Israel regularly bombs or invades. In Syria and Iraq, ISIS did its best to exterminate all Shias. What was needed was negotiation and compromise... the course Obama had taken. Trump's actions will cause a lot of death and suffering... with the loss of US lives too. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: I guess Lil Kim doesn't want to be left out tonight............. North Korea's official newspaper warns of an "immediate and powerful" strike Fri 3 Jan 2020 01:40:22 GMT North Korea's official newspaper Rodong Sinmun said Friday that any attempt to infringe upon NK's dignity and survival should be met by an "immediate and powerful" strike calling for all-out efforts to build up its national defense capability "An action that would violate our republic's dignity and survival should be met by an immediate and powerful strike" "(We) should maintain invincible military power and beef it up," "It is the core initiative of our party's national defense building to make no one dare to think about using military power against us. We should marshal all resources of our country for defense-building efforts." https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/north-koreas-official-newspaper-warns-of-an-immediate-and-powerful-strike-20200103 ********************** US foreign policy in these two situations has hit a brick wall. Trump has no foreign policy.... his policy is pulled out of his backside on impulse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 No different from any previous president, so it should make it very clear -- they are not actually "in charge" of anything except being a face on TV in front of a microphone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said: I would not be surprised to see the Iraqis tell the US get all its soldiers out of Iraq very soon. If that happens, then all the 5000+ dead Americans who died kicking Saddam Hussein out and installing a pro-US regime in Iraq will have been for nothing. Trump will have handed the keys to Iraq right to to the Iranians. Yeah, sure, because the US will listen to the Iraqis when they throw their shoes and yell "death to America" for the umpteenth time this week. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, Toews said: Stole this, it came accompanied with the caption "Nostradumbass". He's a clown. Always has been. Always will be. There's a past tweet for pretty much everything he does. That's what happens when you throw feces at a wall for years on end while hoping something sticks. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nuckin_futz Posted January 3, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ItsAllOursBoys said: Obama chose the policy of appeasement and so he Iran 150 Billion dollars to Iran, In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later. ********************** There is no $150 Billion dollars. The $400 million was paid in cash because Iran is locked out of the international SWIFT system created and controlled by the US. Edited January 3, 2020 by nuckin_futz 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post SabreFan1 Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later. ********************** There is no $150 Billion dollars. The $400 million was paid in cash because Iran is locked out of the international SWIFT system created and controlled by the US. How dare you bring actual facts into the discussion! Now be a good Canadian and act all superior for no real good reason! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nuckin_futz Posted January 3, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, SabreFan1 said: How dare you bring actual facts into the discussion! Now be a good Canadian and act all superior for no real good reason! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, SabreFan1 said: Now be a good Canadian and act all superior for no real good reason! my ears were burning there for a sec were you talking to me ????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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