Is math racist?

[Ray_Cathode]

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

At this point most classic conservatives are closer to the centre as well.  it highlights that there is very little difference.  The extremes are taking over both camps and that's unacceptable.

 

The main issue is that rags like FOX keep trotting these idiots out as the carte blanche blanket example of everything liberal which couldn't be further from the truth

The closest camp now to the classical liberal, i.e. free minds, free markets, is the libertarian, although there are a significant number of conservatives that have moved closer to libertarianism, at least in economics, as well. That is why Bernier only lost the Conservative nomination by a quarter of a percent after the old guard of the party stacked the convention at the last minute. Economically, there is no discernible difference between Scheer and Trudeau. 

 

 

[Shift-4]

2 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said:

I am an accountant, claiming that one and one equals three is a quick route to a short career.  

Lol

I'm an accountant too

You suck at humor :p

Edited January 5, 2020 by Shift-4

[Alflives]

Math is not racist.  

[Lancaster]

Stupidity isn't exclusive to any political affiliation.  

 

[Jester13]

14 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said:

There is no such thing as ‘White privilege’ - it is entirely a racist term. Racism is a form of collectivism that divides the world into classes based on arbitrary characteristics such as skin colour. It is making the claim that ‘all whites are privileged’ and have some kind of advantage based on skin colour, but not all, in fact not even most white’s are ‘privileged’ based on any common sense definition of privilege. In addition, it is implied in the term privilege that any advantage was gained by virtue of the colour of one’s skin, or one’s sex, or by virtue of some other arbitrarily chosen characteristic; but that argument is entirely specious - Gates, for instance (if we assume that wealth is a privilege) did not gain his wealth by being anything but ‘wicked smart’, focusing and applying that intelligence, managing to summon up immense quantities of grit, and taking bold, calculated risks. 

 

12 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said:

I too am a white immigrant. My parents came to Canada in 1952 - I was four. Britain was still under food rationing in early 1952, and had been labouring under Labour governments for seven years with high taxes, socialized industries, and no growth. The country still had exchange controls preventing the movement of capital. My parents were only allowed to take 50 pounds (250 Cdn dollars) out of England, we had less than that by the time we arrived in Vancouver.  My father used to design and build prototypes and the jigs to build metal pallets in England (pallets on casters, with cages, stacking posts, etc.). In Canada, the signs said, “Help wanted, Englishmen need not apply.” So much for ‘white privilege’. He finally found work in a split shop - Canadian union workers on one side being paid a high rate and non-union ‘foreigners’ on the other side of the wall being paid much less. The foreigners, at that time were mainly craftsmen of European origin - more white privilege, I suppose. Anyway, a large job came into the shop for new pallets of a complex design, that no-one else in the shop was qualified to design and build the jigs for, so my my father said he would - for the union rate. The company said they couldn’t do that, so my father quit. He had a family and needed work, so he took the first job available - working on the green chain - at Summit Lake near Prince George. I guess that was the first white privilege he got, because he got paid the same as everyone else on the green chain - there it didn’t matter if you were indigenous, European, ‘white’ (whatever that means), or an officially recognized Canadian - you got paid the same; and as the winter advanced and the temperature plummeted and the shifts got laid off one by one, you stayed on depending on how useful you were to the mill. My dad and another desperate for work European were the last two working the green chain, when the owner called them in, he said, “It’s so cold the equipment keeps breaking and we have to shut down, I’d do anything to keep you on, but we just can’t. I’ve heard that the CN is hiring in town - you might get work there.” So, my dad went to work at the CN, another place where being white provided no privilege for the working man. 

 

As I see it, the only privilege is being alive.

Let me preface my statement by saying I do not fall into the SJW category and disagree with sooooo much of what's going on in today's world with their attempts, but, all both of you have done is show that you haven't done any attempt at researching into what white privilege actually means. It is a real thing, but it's not quite what you think it is. 

 

Edit: I just realized you're the same person, ha! 

Edited January 5, 2020 by Jester13

[riffraff]

22 hours ago, 112 said:

He didn't let her. He was in 'own the lib' mode.

That wasn’t hard here to be fair.

[riffraff]

Woke up a tiny bit racist this morning.

[Tystick]

18 hours ago, Warhippy said:

At this point most classic conservatives are closer to the centre as well.  it highlights that there is very little difference.  The extremes are taking over both camps and that's unacceptable.

 

The main issue is that rags like FOX keep trotting these idiots out as the carte blanche blanket example of everything liberal which couldn't be further from the truth

Like you said, the extremes are taking over both camps.

I would say the reasonable majority agrees on most issues, with just a slight difference in how we approach them.

I would say it's true though, that the left has been taken over by these lunatics. 

For the record, I once identified as liberal or left, but the PC crap is just too much for me.

[Tre Mac]

4 OUT OF 3 CANT MATH

[Tortorella's Rant]

On 1/4/2020 at 5:33 PM, HerrDrFunk said:

You don’t strike me as someone who would fair well dealing with actual adversity due to their ethnicity at all 

Math isn't an ethnicity. 

[HerrDrFunk]

1 minute ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

Math isn't an ethnicity. 

Whoa, fact based statements now? What a rare treat. 

[HerrDrFunk]

On 1/4/2020 at 5:54 PM, bishopshodan said:

I used to scoff at the idea of 'white privilege'. 

 

I heard someone tell a story on TV ( could have been Ron Maclean)  ....

' I don't have white privilege, I'm white but not racist in any way, in fact I don't even think about skin colour '

The response was ' because you have never had to '

 

That made me think.

I have mentioned before, I am an immigrant. However, when I tell people that in person they look at me funny...I then say 'from England'. I'm white, don't have an accent anymore so when they realise that I am in fact from another country I get eye rolls and unfinished sentences that start with...'well, not like an immigrant, immigrant...' I guess saying immigrant twice is a little less racist than saying ' but you're not one of those people...etc 

 

It got me thinking, there is a difference how white people are treated in the Countries I have lived in. 

 

I am very proud of my ancestry but I also realise that it shouldn't and doesn't mean a damn thing.

Like religious discussions , I think these topics have to continue to be talked about because things are still very far from being logical in this world. 

That's pretty much the finer point that a lot of people who froth the mouth over the idea of privilege don't seem to understand (or ignore). Having privilege doesn't mean you've never faced adversity, haven't worked your ass off for what you have, or just had $&!#ty things happen to you over the course of your life in general. It just means you'll more than likely never have to deal with specific stressors that others will based on something as superficial as their ethnicity. 

[RowdyCanuck]

24 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said:

That's pretty much the finer point that a lot of people who froth the mouth over the idea of privilege don't seem to understand (or ignore). Having privilege doesn't mean you've never faced adversity, haven't worked your ass off for what you have, or just had $&!#ty things happen to you over the course of your life in general. It just means you'll more than likely never have to deal with specific stressors that others will based on something as superficial as their ethnicity. 

What about the Irish when they first came over? Look at New York in history alone.

I will agree their is privilege but it's not as common as some make it sound Out to be....

People are forgetting doesn't matter what race you are it's tough either way to start over from scratch and if your lucky enough to move to a country where they speak the same language then that's a bonus not a privilege. 

That's like saying just cause someone's taller he has privilege cause I'm short....

those things are out of our control....

 

Theirs a quote I like cause it's true in a sense....."God made man, But Samuel Colt made them equal" 

 

[Tortorella's Rant]

47 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said:

Whoa, fact based statements now? What a rare treat. 

you ought to try it out sometime 

[HerrDrFunk]

1 minute ago, RowdyCanuck said:

What about the Irish when they first came over? Look at New York in history alone.

I will agree their is privilege but it's not as common as some make it sound Out to be....

People are forgetting doesn't matter what race you are it's tough either way to start over from scratch and if your lucky enough to move to a country where they speak the same language then that's a bonus not a privilege. 

That's like saying just cause someone's taller he has privilege cause I'm short....

those things are out of our control....

 

Theirs a quote I like cause it's true in a sense....."God made man, But Samuel Colt made them equal" 

 

How does racism being so institutionalized back in the day, where you could be the "wrong kind" of white, invalidate what I've said?

 

I normally wouldn't even mention it, but since you brought it up, you may want to look into the studies which examined incomes and career opportunities based on height. Spoiler: tall people tend come out ahead. ( for the pun)

[HerrDrFunk]

4 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

you ought to try it out sometime 

My apologies, I can see you're really trying your hardest here. 

[RowdyCanuck]

1 minute ago, HerrDrFunk said:

How does racism being so institutionalized back in the day, where you could be the "wrong kind" of white, invalidate what I've said?

 

I normally wouldn't even mention it, but since you brought it up, you may want to look into the studies which examined incomes and career opportunities based on height. Spoiler: tall people tend come out ahead. ( for the pun)

Cause racism knows no colour....

 

 

 but see I wouldn't call that a privilege though cause that's out of the persons control..same thing could be said about athletes.....

[HerrDrFunk]

1 minute ago, RowdyCanuck said:

Cause racism knows no colour....

 

 

 but see I wouldn't call that a privilege though cause that's out of the persons control..same thing could be said about athletes.....

So because the Irish were discriminated against back in the day, privilege based on ethnicity doesn't exist? 

 

You don't have any control over being born into a family with money either; but it's pretty damn hard to say with a straight face that being born wealthy doesn't give you privilege compared to someone born into poverty. It doesn't make the person with money "bad" but it does mean they likely won't know hardships that poverty stricken do; which is a privilege. 

[RowdyCanuck]

1 minute ago, HerrDrFunk said:

So because the Irish were discriminated against back in the day, privilege based on ethnicity doesn't exist? 

 

You don't have any control over being born into a family with money either; but it's pretty damn hard to say with a straight face that being born wealthy doesn't give you privilege compared to someone born into poverty. It doesn't make the person with money "bad" but it does mean they likely won't know hardships that poverty stricken do; which is a privilege. 

I never said that....I said white privilege isn't as common as most make it out to be......

 

I agree but that's the luck of the draw.....

man wasn't created equally and that's what we call life or the hand your dealt....

last I check there's poor white people too.....

[HerrDrFunk]

1 minute ago, RowdyCanuck said:

I never said that....I said white privilege isn't as common as most make it out to be......

 

I agree but that's the luck of the draw.....

man wasn't created equally and that's what we call life or the hand your dealt....

last I check there's poor white people too.....

We'll have to agree to disagree there. 

 

Did I say there aren't poor white people?