theo5789 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, Coconuts said: To be fair, Edmonton doesn't have a very good track record of structuring their team well. And adding Zucker might not make that any better, especially if he doesn't pan out like they hope. He's bordering on the Spooner/Gagner/Baertschi level in that he has to produce 50+ points or he's relatively useless otherwise. For 5.5 million a season, he better work out for whichever team that takes him on or he could be a massive burden for 4 more years (and with Minni trying to offload him several times now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, Alflives said: Hockey Gaud for Dumbo. Dumba was a 50pts D - can Gaudette even reach that as a C. I would think for someone higher end than Gaudette. They want to build a true contender - not a team that's just going to make the playoffs. Coyle, Niederreiter, Granlund were considered not good enough. 5 minutes ago, Maddogy said: I don't think think it is clear what Minnesota's organizational timeline is. Are they ready for the full rebuild which means that they want 18-19 years old as well as draft picks, or are they wishing to retool their team with players in the 20's? It is much more difficult to find a trade partner for the latter route. It's unclear. Guerin has full backing from Leipold. The mandate is to build an elite Cup contender - not a team that just makes the playoffs like they have in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, mll said: Dumba was a 50pts D - can Gaudette even reach that as a C. I would think for someone higher end than Gaudette. They want to build a true contender - not a team that's just going to make the playoffs. Coyle, Niederreiter, Granlund were considered not good enough. It's unclear. Guerin has full backing from Leipold. The mandate is to build an elite Cup contender - not a team that just makes the playoffs like they have in the past. If they won’t take Gaud (and no way JB would do that anyway) then they can keep their flying D man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, theo5789 said: And adding Zucker might not make that any better, especially if he doesn't pan out like they hope. He's bordering on the Spooner/Gagner/Baertschi level in that he has to produce 50+ points or he's relatively useless otherwise. For 5.5 million a season, he better work out for whichever team that takes him on or he could be a massive burden for 4 more years (and with Minni trying to offload him several times now). The Wild have really missed Zucker - he was out 4 weeks with a broken fibula and just returned. Staal is the only F that has produced at a better pace than him this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, mll said: The Wild have really missed Zucker - he was out 4 weeks with a broken fibula and just returned. Staal is the only F that has produced at a better pace than him this season. Well I guess they'll miss him enough to sell him potentially (once again). He just doesn't seem like a player that provides much beyond offense and he isn't that stellar offensively. Top 6 point producer for sure at this point, but he has to hit those numbers or he's ineffective. 4 year risk needing his to hit those marks or try to figure out what to do with him on a new team if he's traded. He had a good contract year and has gone back a bit since. Not very good playoff numbers either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirotashi Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 hours ago, HerrDrFunk said: I feel like Minnesota isn't going to let Dumba go for anything less than a 1st or a grade A prospect. I feel like people are grossly over valuing Dumba, more like Demko for Dumba straight up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 People want Dumba they are gonna have to pay up a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 So many surprisingly weak teams this season..like Nashville for instance. Sellers want to get ahead of the market. Due to a lack of cap space/bubble PO-contenders, prices to sell will be historically low this TDL. A guy like Hall got flipped early is more evidence. NYRags, Minny, Nash, OTT, SJ, ANA, maybe Buff soon..lots of these teams prob wanna dump underperforming cap hit. Especially as 2020 is being touted as a very nice crop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 hours ago, D-Money said: Gotta say...if Minnesota truly wants a young top-6 C back in this deal, Toronto would be smart to offer Nylander. They've got absolutely nothing at RD after Barrie hits UFA. Shhh, don't let TSN or SN see this post... Dumba would be a great addition for our team tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: People want Dumba they are gonna have to pay up a lot. Ya, he can fly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, Canuckster86 said: Shhh, don't let TSN or SN see this post... Dumba would be a great addition for our team tho! No way Princess William returns Dumbo. Wee Willie is a cap dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 47 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: People want Dumba they are gonna have to pay up a lot. yup, especially if some think parting with Gaud is too much... Minny will want a 1st and or a teams top prospect plus more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: No way Princess William returns Dumbo. Wee Willie is a cap dump. 42pts in 48gp aint bad for wee willy. Makes his contract look good if he can produce like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, Canuckster86 said: 42pts in 48gp aint bad for wee willy. Makes his contract look good if he can produce like that He’s soft as Charmin. He’s a proven Double Flamingo. He’s got a crazy overpaid long term contract. He’s got no value. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirotashi Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Where is everyone getting the idea Dumba would be a good pickup hes on the decline and people want to give up good prospects. https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-fantasy-hockey-top-50-defenseman-rankings-2019-20/c-282830728 Hes not in the top 50. Look at his numbers he is clearly in decline https://www.fantasypros.com/nhl/players/mathew-dumba.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 The Wild declined fast. Staal at $3.25M is going to be a hot ticket even with his modified NTC. Pro-rated, that may be a cap hit that would be very attractive to another team. He also has another year remaining. I can't see the Canucks being able to acquire him for depth due to their cap problems. Carolina has their own cap issues but who knows, maybe a return of the former captain and the reunification of the Staal bros may be possible? Can't recall if there was some kind of falling out. Koivu will presumably also be an attractive target especially if the Wild retain cap for this year. He's on an expiring contract and is solid defensively. Can't see Parise or Zucarello being attractive trade options right now. Their cap hits are too big. Hartman and Foligno are the only other guys I can see the Wild actively looking to part with though I'm not sure how keen Guerin is with building around Fiala and Donato. Guerin must hope Victor Rask can turn it around because at $4M per year, I can't see any team willing to acquire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 7 hours ago, HerrDrFunk said: I feel like Minnesota isn't going to let Dumba go for anything less than a 1st or a grade A prospect. i think your feels are correct, Mr. Funk. It would be awesome to get him, but losing Brock - and thats who they would want - would just be a knife in the heart of the fan base and the young core. It would set up unreasonable expectations on Dumba too. It has too much potential to suck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, Alflives said: He’s soft as Charmin. He’s a proven Double Flamingo. He’s got a crazy overpaid long term contract. He’s got no value. TO should take Tanev for Flamingo-boy and send us a pick in thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elias Pettersson Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Dumbs is having a terrible year. Are people still living off the fact he got 50 points like 3 years ago? He has worse numbers that Myers this year, he’s got the worst +/- on the entire Minnesota team, and he’s coming off major surgery. He’s 180 pounds soaking wet and plays a physical game. He is on the decline, sorry to stay. I wouldn’t trade Hockey Gaud straight up for him. Hockey Gaud has a bright future. Dumba is trending in the opposite direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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