BPA Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: Rather get a first round pick for Demko, and keep the pipeline of young ELC guys coming. I also think along these lines. Maybe snag some of TO top D prospects instead (Sandin or Liljegren). I don't know TO prospects...so whatever prospect that would be fair value is good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, BPA said: I also think along these lines. Maybe snag some of TO top D prospects instead (Sandin or Liljegren). I don't know TO prospects...so whatever prospect that would be fair value is good. Maybe other teams, who covet Demko, have better prospects? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Maybe other teams, who covet Demko, have better prospects? Quite possible. I don't know other teams needs and how good their goalie prospects are. This is just my opinion, but I think Canucks needs to bolster their D prospect depth. As some can pan out but some may not. However, I would prefer trading Demko + for a top tier D (preferably RHD at good cap and with some term) that can improve the current D core. I don't want the Canucks to just make the playoffs but go a bit deep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: Expansion draft is coming up in 2021, and although I trust that Benning will make a deal for who gets chosen, there's the possibility of losing a goalie. Would much rather lean on Demko in case of injuries, until we have no choice. DiPietro is not ready. I think pre-expansion deals are going to be rarer after McPhee took everyone to the cleaners using them. As it stands we will probably lose a goalie in expansion, but that goes against your concern about depth. We won’t have it regardless after next season. An interim back up to play 20 games a year isn’t that hard. DiPietro is exempt so can’t be picked up and should easily be ready to be a backup in 2 more years, 3 on the on the outside . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, BPA said: Quite possible. I don't know other teams needs and how good their goalie prospects are. This is just my opinion, but I think Canucks needs to bolster their D prospect depth. As some can pan out but some may not. However, I would prefer trading Demko + for a top tier D (preferably RHD at good cap and with some term) that can improve the current D core. I don't want the Canucks to just make the playoffs but go a bit deep. That would be great. Imagine JB getting us the D version of JT Miller for Demko. Would you (JB?) trade right now Tanev for Barrie? Both are coming UFAs, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dough teeth Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 I was watching TSN trade counter and it was reported Benning was looking for another top 9 forward but doesn't have assets to trade for one as he doesn't want to trade his top prospects and already traded his 1st. Demko is already 24 years old (same age as Kerfoot) so we already know what his skill level is. He is a starting goalie but I don't think he's elite (such as Georgiev) Kerfoot is a 40 point player 20 goals, 20 assist player playing on the 3rd line when he was in Colorado. God forbids if Petterson gets injured but if you want Gaudette to play 2nd line center if he gets injured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: That would be great. Imagine JB getting us the D version of JT Miller for Demko. Would you (JB?) trade right now Tanev for Barrie? Both are coming UFAs, right? TO is more in a bind with their depleted D core. I doubt they would want to part with Barrie just yet. I have no desire to part with Tanev unless TO is also willing to take some excess baggage. Maybe something like... Tanev + Baer + Demko for Barrie + Lilgeren + Hutchinson. But I would have to consider whether Barrie can be defensively responsible (not to an extent of Tanev) and maintain his offensive output. Also to consider the impact it might have on Hughes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, BPA said: TO is more in a bind with their depleted D core. I doubt they would want to part with Barrie just yet. I have no desire to part with Tanev unless TO is also willing to take some excess baggage. Maybe something like... Tanev + Baer + Demko for Barrie + Lilgeren + Hutchinson. But I would have to consider whether Barrie can be defensively responsible (not to an extent of Tanev) and maintain his offensive output. Also to consider the impact it might have on Hughes. Yes TOR is in a bind. Mostly with lack of cap space, which has limited their ability to afford depth and now with injuries their D corps is depleted. But the above trade is not realistic due to the lack of cap space for TOR. They can’t afford $8.9m coming in with only $4.3m going out. They also probably don’t want to send 2 Dmen out and only get one back, since they are already so thin on D. More likely they want to trade F or picks for more help on D. My last point is that I would only trade Tanev for a 1st round pick return. He is too valuable to VAN for anything less. Even with that return it is questionable whether we should let him go as he is a key piece to getting into the playoffs or not this season, and is key to being competitive in the playoffs if we make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 If we don't lose a goalie in the expansion draft, we'll lose another guy we don't want to. Kerfoot is not as good as the players we'll have to leave unprotected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, Alflives said: That would be great. Imagine JB getting us the D version of JT Miller for Demko. Would you (JB?) trade right now Tanev for Barrie? Both are coming UFAs, right? Tanev is far more valuable than a defenseman who can't play defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 11 hours ago, dough teeth said: To Vancouver Michael Hutchinson Alex Kerfoot To Toronto Thatcher Demko Tim Schaller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, dough teeth said: I was watching TSN trade counter and it was reported Benning was looking for another top 9 forward but doesn't have assets to trade for one as he doesn't want to trade his top prospects and already traded his 1st. Demko is already 24 years old (same age as Kerfoot) so we already know what his skill level is. He is a starting goalie but I don't think he's elite (such as Georgiev) Kerfoot is a 40 point player 20 goals, 20 assist player playing on the 3rd line when he was in Colorado. God forbids if Petterson gets injured but if you want Gaudette to play 2nd line center if he gets injured... Miller plays a lot of centre, and we ha e Sutter. It would be one of them almost certainly and not bad extra options compared with most teams. I am not against Demko being traded at all, but I would far prefer in a package that sheds cap and/or brings us a top 4 RD that has some term left. Edited January 27, 2020 by Provost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Kapanen would be the ask. The guy is like a younger honey badger. He's fast, is incredibly versatile and plays a heavier game than his size suggests 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Personally, I keep Demko and move Dipietro at some point. I feel Demko has the better chance at being a #1 vs Mikey D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: Personally, I keep Demko and move Dipietro at some point. I feel Demko has the better chance at being a #1 vs Mikey D That leaves us with one NHL goalie after the expansion draft. We need DiPietro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 This won't work in Toronto, their motto is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Canuckster86 said: Personally, I keep Demko and move Dipietro at some point. I feel Demko has the better chance at being a #1 vs Mikey D Were it not for expansion that could be a plan, but we will almost certainly lose one of our two goalies in expansion (because we have so many exempt and undesirable players in other positions). Actually, it there was no expansion, I would let Demko back up Markstrom for another year or two with an increasing workload... then auction him off for a solid return and then bring up Dipietro to be the back up and be ready to take over from Markstrom when his next contract expires in 3-4 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Provost said: Were it not for expansion that could be a plan, but we will almost certainly lose one of our two goalies in expansion (because we have so many exempt and undesirable players in other positions). Actually, it there was no expansion, I would let Demko back up Markstrom for another year or two with an increasing workload... then auction him off for a solid return and then bring up Dipietro to be the back up and be ready to take over from Markstrom when his next contract expires in 3-4 years. Yep pretty much this. Demko's trajectory definitely appears to be a future starter - if we go with Markstrom then might as well trade him for something else we need more - work with developing our other guys and find a cheaper vet if we need to plug holes. Maybe we can keep him until he's a UFA (Demko) and then switch which would be ideal .... if it wasn't for the ED. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1970 and beyond Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I think the problem is that Markstrom wasn't expected to be playing this well. It was supposed to be easy. He has made the goalie situation just a little more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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