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[Proposal] Boeser to COL


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First let me say that I'm in no sort of hurry to trade Boeser (I'm quite fine with the year he's having for the record) but some other posters brought it up in his player thread so I thought I'd continue the discussion here.

 

In theory, Boeser would be a pretty sizable upgrade to their top 6 W over say Nichushkin. They have the cap space and presumably are pushing for a solid playoff run (which Boeser would help with a lot more than Byram will playing on the Giants) ...just saying. 

 

COL also gets Boeser a fair bit closer to home and his ailing dad on a more personal note.

 

On our end, it would certainly go a long way to alleviating any cap concerns we have over the next couple years with Byram on an ELC vs Boeser's near $6m, makes room for returning Ferland/Leivo this year (both of whom are probably a better fit on the third line). We also add a likely future 1st pair D to play with Hughes, who's from BC and playing on the local Junior team (and I'd imagine a pick or other asset given Boeser's current value presently outweighs his).

 

Future D:

 

Byram, Hughes

Juolevi, Woo

Rathbone, Tryamkin

 

Brisebois, Chatfield

 

Maybe Rafferty in there for someone assuming he translates.

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I love Byram, really wish we won a lottery pick to nab him. But I don't see Colorado shipping him out. Looking at their future core pieces, Byram and Makar will be huge pillars on that blueline. It's true they could use another weapon up front I think they are like 20th in the league in GFs, just not sure they'd pay Byram for it. 

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1 minute ago, N7Nucks said:

I love Byram, really wish we won a lottery pick to nab him. But I don't see Colorado shipping him out. Looking at their future core pieces, Byram and Makar will be huge pillars on that blueline. It's true they could use another weapon up front I think they are like 20th in the league in GFs, just not sure they'd pay Byram for it. 

They are 2nd in the league in goals for per game - only behind Florida by 1 goal.  

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2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

its logical @aGENT .... but risky for Benning too. If for some reason Byram didn't pan out, oy it would be a long trip to the airport for Jimbo. 

Oh for sure there's some risk. I'd imagine Byram's fairly 'safe' as far as bets go, stranger things have happened though. One of the reasons I'd imagine we get another asset (pick?) to offset that risk.

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7 minutes ago, N7Nucks said:

I love Byram, really wish we won a lottery pick to nab him. But I don't see Colorado shipping him out. Looking at their future core pieces, Byram and Makar will be huge pillars on that blueline. It's true they could use another weapon up front I think they are like 20th in the league in GFs, just not sure they'd pay Byram for it. 

Sakic would jump on this deal faster than a redneck on roadkill. 

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9 minutes ago, mll said:

They are 2nd in the league in goals for per game - only behind Florida by 1 goal.  

Yup, their scoring disproportionately comes from their 1st line though.  Boeser would allow them to be a 2 line scoring team and make them FAR more threatening IMO.

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I may be in the minority here, but Byram didn't impress me as much as I thought he would at the WJHC.  He looked good, don't get me wrong, but not as dynamic as he has been made out to be.  Definitely not a player I'd gamble a proven talent in Boeser on.

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27 minutes ago, aGENT said:

First let me say that I'm in no sort of hurry to trade Boeser (I'm quite fine with the year he's having for the record) but some other posters brought it up in his player thread so I thought I'd continue the discussion here.

 

In theory, Boeser would be a pretty sizable upgrade to their top 6 W over say Nichushkin. They have the cap space and presumably are pushing for a solid playoff run (which Boeser would help with a lot more than Byram will playing on the Giants) ...just saying. 

 

COL also gets Boeser a fair bit closer to home and his ailing dad on a more personal note.

 

On our end, it would certainly go a long way to alleviating any cap concerns we have over the next couple years with Byram on an ELC vs Boeser's near $6m, makes room for returning Ferland/Leivo this year (both of whom are probably a better fit on the third line). We also add a likely future 1st pair D to play with Hughes, who's from BC and playing on the local Junior team (and I'd imagine a pick or other asset given Boeser's current value presently outweighs his).

 

Future D:

 

Byram, Hughes

Juolevi, Woo

Rathbone, Tryamkin

 

Brisebois, Chatfield

 

Maybe Rafferty in there for someone assuming he translates.

Better idea, Colorado can score just fine.   What they need is players like Ferland/Leivo.   Why not keep Boeser and trade them for Byrum?   Oh - can't?   That is because you can't replace quality with quantity.

 

In any event, Colorado needs Boeser far less than they need someone to solidify their "toughness".

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Just now, HKSR said:

I may be in the minority here, but Byram didn't impress me as much as I thought he would at the WJHC.  He looked good, don't get me wrong, but not as dynamic as he has been made out to be.  Definitely not a player I'd gamble a proven talent in Boeser on.

WJC does not a player make. Hughes didn't look spectacular there either. How'd that turn out?

 

Byram was also reportedly ill part of the tourny.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Better idea, Colorado can score just fine.   What they need is players like Ferland/Leivo.   Why not keep Boeser and trade them for Byrum?   Oh - can't?   That is because you can't replace quality with quantity.

 

In any event, Colorado needs Boeser far less than they need someone to solidify their "toughness".

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4 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Yup, their scoring disproportionately comes from their 1st line though.  Boeser would allow them to be a 2 line scoring team and make them FAR more threatening IMO.

They'd be better of adding Boser and addressing the 'toughness' issue separately.

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Just now, HKSR said:

I may be in the minority here, but Byram didn't impress me as much as I thought he would at the WJHC.  He looked good, don't get me wrong, but not as dynamic as he has been made out to be.  Definitely not a player I'd gamble a proven talent in Boeser on.

By all accounts of people I know/trust and follow the WHL, he has been a far less impactful player this season than last and appears almost tentative in compare.   His team was a preseason selection as a top 5 CHL team for Memorial Cup and are instead struggling to make the playoffs with largely same lineup.

 

As a 16 year old in WHL he turned many heads by scoring 6 goals and amassing 27 points over 60 low minute games.

 

As as 17 year old he was dominant and in 67 games he had 26 goals and 71 points in regular season and followed by 26 points in 22 playoff games and an OT loss away from M Cup.

 

As a draft 18 year old he is on pace (projected to same 67 games ) to score 6 goals and get 42 points.    Pretty pedestrian.   

 

Hope for his sake the observations I am hearing and the statistics I can see are just bumps in the road.  I was fortunate to watch WJC live and he was NOT that impressive and far from best D on Canada let alone even in top 10 in the tournament.

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7 minutes ago, aGENT said:

WJC does not a player make. Hughes didn't look spectacular there either. How'd that turn out?

 

Byram was also reportedly ill part of the tourny.

 

 

I don't know if you're talking Jack or Quinn Hughes, but both looked dominant in the WJC.  Jack was injured as well and a young 17 y/o, but when he played, he clearly showed why he was gonna go #1 OA.  We won't talk about Quinn, cuz clearly he was extremely dominant in the WJC.

 

I know that WJC does not a player make, but it also gives you an idea of how good a player could be playing against the best-of-the-best peer group.

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