grandmaster Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Benefit for LA: The Kings are in a rebuild phase and by the time they get to be competitive again, Doughty will be on a decline. Doughty has already publicly voiced his displeasure of having two bad seasons. Marner is young enough to still be a force once LA gets better in 2 or 3 years. Benefit for Toronto: The Leafs are built to win now and have enough offence left for be very good in this end. Their biggest weakness is defence and Doughty would fit the need the best. Salary Cap Implications: None. Both are virtually even salaries. Contract clause issues: Marner - does not have a NMC or NTC Doughty - has a NTC but would easily waive it to go back home and play for a competitive team Edited January 30, 2020 by grandmaster 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vancouver Connection Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Why would the leafs give up a 22 year old for a 30 year old d-man? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, The Vancouver Connection said: Why would the leafs give up a 22 year old for a 30 year old d-man? To win the Cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vancouver Connection Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Marner is their best forward though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, The Vancouver Connection said: Marner is their best forward though... Doughty would become their best defencemen. Leafs have more than enough good forwards. They don’t have many good defencemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Yeah. That doesn’t seem like a no brainer to me at all. There’s very few players in the league I’d trade Marner for. And Doughty isn’t one of them. And this is from a guy that despises the leafs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Would Doughty actually make them that much better? Edited January 30, 2020 by Monteeun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, Monteeun said: I don't think Doughty would actually make them that much better. Really? You think Leafs D will carry them anywhere in the playoffs? Once the regular season is over, the Leafs will be in a world of hurt when the checking gets real tight. I hate Doughty but he is a premier defencemen which can easily be talked into waiving his NTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostsof1915 Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 Nylander for Doughty maybe. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I would hope that'd never happen. All the media coverage Doughty would get in Toronto would be too insufferable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The Leafs will not part with Marner as Ghostof1915 posted Nylander gets er done! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Really? You think Leafs D will carry them anywhere in the playoffs? Once the regular season is over, the Leafs will be in a world of hurt when the checking gets real tight. I hate Doughty but he is a premier defencemen which can easily be talked into waiving his NTC. U think Marner for Doughty is equal value? Edited January 30, 2020 by Monteeun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 If I'm LA, this is a no brainer and I say yes. But if I'm Toronto, I don't do it. Doesn't make sense. Marner is a hometown kid who loves being a Leaf. He's not going anywhere and the blowback of dealing him for Doughty would be big. However, going through the trade machine on Capfriendly... a deal that does make sense is the following: William Nylander Timothy Liljegren Alex Kerfoot PICKS for Drew Doughty Bokondji Imama Works. It's cap compliant (Nylander and Kerfoot's salaries roughly add up to Doughty's)... and I threw in Imama as a throwaway player who is there to help even out the contracts (since LA takes 3 contracts for 1, essentially) and Imama probably doesn't get re-signed this summer based on his numbers in the AHL. This could be a workable deal. Liljegren is a B+ prospect who lines up with the other prospects in the Kings system. Nylander replaces Tyler Toffoli who leaves in free agency this Summer and Kerfoot is thrown in for salary purposes and is somebody the Kings could probably flip in a season for more picks + prospects... I added picks in there because I'm sure there'll be some thrown in but I was lazy to figure out which ones because the Maple Leafs have traded away random picks in the past. I assume it would be a first or second. Why does LA do this? Frees up some cap space, gets picks and prospects, and shows to the NHL that it's serious about a rebuild. Why does Toronto do this? Doughty comes home, shores up the defence for the next several years with another solid veteran, and brings another name to the Maple Leafs organisation. Leafs &^@# up there cap situation for years too come as Doughty regresses lol... I do think Doughty being dealt is something that could happen. After watching Shea Weber get dealt, any d-man could be, even if Doughty as a NMC... I'm sure he'll be okay with a trade to a contender if LA can't turn it around in another year or two (which it won't). Does it happen? Probably not but I like the thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Monteeun said: U think Marner for Doughty is equal value? No. Marner is an elite young forward and Doughty is an elite older defenceman. This is for the purpose of winning the Cup, not a 10 year post trade comparison. I want to also make it clear. I’m not a fan of either team and I hate Doughty. I just think it is a perfect trade for two teams with two different needs. Edited January 30, 2020 by grandmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, grandmaster said: No. Marner is an elite young forward and Doughty is an elite older defenceman. This is for the purpose of winning the Cup, not a 10 year post trade comparison. I want to also make it clear. I’m not a fan of either team and I hate Doughty. I just think it is a perfect trade for two teams with two different needs. There's gotta be extra pieces.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Monteeun said: There's gotta be extra pieces.... Perhaps a 2nd rounder to TO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Perhaps a 2nd rounder to TO? My point is, Marner is a fantastic player for Toronto. So if Toronto was to give him away....i feel it can't be just for Doughty Whether they are likeable or not is irrelevant. I'm trying to look at just value. Edited January 30, 2020 by Monteeun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Nylander for Doughty maybe. This is a little more reasonable. There’s absolutely zero chance Toronto trades Marner for an aging defenseman with a huge contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 This is the type of move Toronto needs to make. Toronto aint winning no cup status quo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 No brainer for LA. Having said that T.O. Should be looking at something like that for sure. Maybe package Nylander. I wouldn’t trade that Marner puke but if they want to go anywhere they need a more balanced team. I hope they buy another forward hehe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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