DownUndaCanuck Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Win-win, Pitts is clearly going to go all in while they have Malks and Crosby and just burn the farm for current success and worry about rebuilding later, and to be fair they should. This sets up their wing position nicely over the next few years. Big price to pay, but he's exactly what they need in their top-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, 10pavelbure96 said: We have never won one. It's different. Losing sucks and the pens have been a modern age dynasty along with the Blackhawks. They shold start re tooling on the fly now for when Crosby and Malkin are done. Losing sucks and jason Zucker is not a ray Bourque. Hardly a stud deadline acquisition and def not worth what they gave up It’s not the deadline yet. This is just a regular season-time hockey trade. Been think what it would take to get Zucker on the Canucks’ lineup. A line with Miller and Zucker probably would’ve been money. I’m sure Mallon or Crosby will be satisfactory to Zucker nonetheless. Edited February 11, 2020 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) Double post Edited February 11, 2020 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Rutherford is the rubberman of GMs. Zucker is over-rated - but will probably be a good fit - role player in Pitt - ala replacement for Kessel. His speed added to that group will fit Sullivan's systems nicely. That's a low odds late 1st - around 25/26 currently - but factor Addison in = probably a significant overpayment....but with that core....do they care? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Win-win, Pitts is clearly going to go all in while they have Malks and Crosby and just burn the farm for current success and worry about rebuilding later, and to be fair they should. This sets up their wing position nicely over the next few years. Big price to pay, but he's exactly what they need in their top-6 Isn’t Gentzel done for the year? I think Zucker is supposed to replace him. He’s not that good though. Pens lose in round one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) Galchenyuk is a capdump.... Basically Pitts traded Kessels, nice prospect, 1st for Zucker. When Kessel last year probably could have gotten Pitts a nice 1st round pick at least. That's just extremely poor asset management. Considering Kessel is actually better than Zucker rofl. Edited February 11, 2020 by Drakrami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 If Minny is selling, take Foligno off their hands - send Baertschi's contract and a future. They don't like powerforwards over there - help them with that Neiderreiter, Coyle....Foligno, continuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 they got 3 cups trading away top picks and and their best prospects. I doubt the fans would care if theres a decent build from scratch that takes five years. they'll remember the 4 finals they went to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Screw said: Miller trade anyone? Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) Wow. Terrible to give up addison and a first. Terrible deal for the Pens regardless of Zucker being decent . I'd take Miller over Zucker, so the Miller trade aint looking bad now is it hatters ? I'd love to have addison in our pipeline. Edited February 11, 2020 by cuporbust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, oldnews said: If Minny is selling, take Foligno off their hands - send Baertschi's contract and a future. They don't like powerforwards over there - help them with that Neiderreiter, Coyle....Foligno, continuum. Russo said last week that Guerin doesn't plan on moving Foligno - believes he might even be in the discussion to be their next captain. Koivu is unlikely to be back. Owner Leipold was fed up of "being good but not good enough" - his expression. The Wild would make the playoffs but not do much once in. He tasked Fenton to shake up their core - Niederreiter/Coyle have been mostly underwhelming in the playoffs in Minnesota. The team was caught in no man's land and had to do something. Foligno is making an impact every day - tremendous in the room and on the ice in his role. He's a leader for them. Edited February 11, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcy2 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I see so much similarity between Zucker and BB for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Toyotasfan said: Is Minnesota admittedly a deadline seller now, have they thrown in the towel on this season? Maybe there’s an outside chance with Galchenuk, he might thrive with better minutes. Looks like they’re done. Not yet. They think they can still get in but ownership is not interested in just making the playoffs and Guerin has carte blanche to make all the moves he feels are necessary to build a legit Cup contending team. Not sure Zucker would have brought back that high of a return in the off-season. It was a foregone conclusion that Zucker's time in Minnesota was not going to last past this season. Delaying the inevitable was somewhat unfair to him and his family - it probably weighed on him and he hasn't been playing all that well recently. After visiting Kaprisov in early December Guerin told media that he would have to make room on the wings for Kaprisov. Fiala is turning into an untouchable player. Parise is not going anywhere and Zuccarello is unmovable with his NMC/too long contract. By elimination it left Zucker for a spot in the top-6. Guerin sees Galchenyuk as a winger but he's a UFA and with their crowded wings unlikely to be extended. Rutherford tried to acquire Zucker last summer but Kessel wouldn't waive his NMC for Minnesota. Addison was just ranked by Wheeler as Penguins' top prospect. A 1st was always going to happen - several teams interested in Zucker. Calgary is believed to have tried again but they are apparently on his no-trade list. The Wild will miss his speed but there was just no room on the wings going forward. They have enough unmovable veterans and need spots for their next young players. Zucker won't carry a line but should do well alongside Crosby or Malkin. The Wild have no playmaking Cs so pure goal scorers are going to have trouble putting big numbers on the Wild until they fix their top-6 C issue. Edited February 11, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 That 2012 draft is a rough one. #1 Nail Yakupov -- Outta the league #2 Ryan Murray -- A bottom pairing defenseman #3 Alex Galchenyuk -- Fourth team in 3 years #4 Griffin Reinhart -- Exposed in expansion draft, claimed, never played for expansion team, now in the KHL #5 Morgan Reilly -- The best of the top 5. Who would've thought?!? ... Old Canucks anchor Derrick Pouliot was drafted #8. It feels like Galchenyuk was thrown in to match salaries LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 hours ago, King Heffy said: Benning should be calling him before he sobers up. JR: Hey Jim, want McCann back? Want to send us Motte our way? JB: No dice Jimmy, how about Graovac? His salary is almost nothing JR: Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Quantum said: That 2012 draft is a rough one. #1 Nail Yakupov -- Outta the league #2 Ryan Murray -- A bottom pairing defenseman #3 Alex Galchenyuk -- Fourth team in 3 years #4 Griffin Reinhart -- Exposed in expansion draft, claimed, never played for expansion team, now in the KHL #5 Morgan Reilly -- The best of the top 5. Who would've thought?!? ... Old Canucks anchor Derrick Pouliot was drafted #8. It feels like Galchenyuk was thrown in to match salaries LOL. Didn't Cherry say Ryan Murray reminded him of Bobby Orr? hahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Watch them pick up Kovy now... would be amazing depth up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAlien Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 This is basically akin to Benning trading Pearson, Rathbone and a first this summer for Miller. Pearson: 27 years old, had a couple good season in L.A. then dropped off, struck out again in Pittsburgh. Had $3.75m x 2 years left on his contract. Galchenyuk: 25 years old, had two 50+ point seasons but never fit in Pittsburgh, has a few months left on a $4.9m contract. Rathbone: Left shot 20 year old puck moving defenseman who can quarterback a powerplay. Was 40th in PPG for a defenseman in the NCAA (though he's 7th this season). Addison: Right shot 19 year old puck moving defenseman who can quarterback a powerplay. Currently 3rd in PPG for a defenseman in the WHL. First round pick: 2020 pick, unless Vancouver/ Pittsburgh miss the playoffs, which is then deferred to 2021. As a project, Galchenyuk is younger and had better career highs than Pearson (before this season). Addison is probably a better prospect right now than Rathbone was in the summer, as he hadn't broken out for his sophomore campaign then. However, Pittsburgh's pick is likely to be lower so it balances out. Imagine the outrage had that hypothetical trade went down this summer. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, GoldenAlien said: This is basically akin to Benning trading Pearson, Rathbone and a first this summer for Miller. Pearson: 27 years old, had a couple good season in L.A. then dropped off, struck out again in Pittsburgh. Had $3.75m x 2 years left on his contract. Galchenyuk: 25 years old, had two 50+ point seasons but never fit in Pittsburgh, has a few months left on a $4.9m contract. Rathbone: Left shot 20 year old puck moving defenseman who can quarterback a powerplay. Was 40th in PPG for a defenseman in the NCAA (though he's 7th this season). Addison: Right shot 19 year old puck moving defenseman who can quarterback a powerplay. Currently 3rd in PPG for a defenseman in the WHL. First round pick: 2020 pick, unless Vancouver/ Pittsburgh miss the playoffs, which is then deferred to 2021. As a project, Galchenyuk is younger and had better career highs than Pearson (before this season). Addison is probably a better prospect right now than Rathbone was in the summer, as he hadn't broken out for his sophomore campaign then. However, Pittsburgh's pick is likely to be lower so it balances out. Imagine the outrage had that hypothetical trade went down this summer. Thanks. Clearly JB stole Miller compared to what Pit payed fir Zucker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 glad we don't have to worry about Zucker coming to Van anymore.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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