mll Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, coastal.view said: sounds like an unhealthy relationship between players and management pulling things apart rather then fostering unity not sure this approach works in the current climate me thinks this will likely backfire well i guess this is no longer a long shot playoff team sure fire miss That narrative just doesn't align with what players say about Guerin. They have become an extremely tight team and players talk of how he is very honest with them. It's really all the opposite of what you write - all year media has been reporting the closeness and how Guerin has really unified the team after some rough months under Fenton. It was an innocent quote about compete and not just giving up. Edited February 11, 2020 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystifyNCrucify Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) I dunno about the wild players, but that put even my fat ass and back up. Not in a good way. Eat a stick, choke on it, and enjoy what you have sown guerin. Edited February 11, 2020 by MystifyNCrucify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, mll said: That narrative just doesn't align with what players say about Guerin. They have become an extremely tight team and players talk of how he is very honest with them. That's media these days - an innocent quote about compete gets sensationalised. What are you going off about? He blatantly stated he will trade his players if there is any quit. What’s so innocent about that? It’s a pretty firm statement to me and when he trades off a top 6 forward for futures, there is no desire to truly make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, grandmaster said: What are you going off about? He blatantly stated he will trade his players if there is any quit. What’s so innocent about that? It’s a pretty firm statement to me and when he trades off a top 6 forward for futures, there is no desire to truly make the playoffs. Listen to the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mll said: Listen to the interview. Read the quote. He stated what he stated and tried to back track a bit. His actions also speak louder than what you may have heard. Edited February 11, 2020 by grandmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, mll said: That narrative just doesn't align with what players say about Guerin. They have become an extremely tight team and players talk of how he is very honest with them. It's really all the opposite of what you write - all year media has been reporting the closeness and how Guerin has really unified the team after some rough months under Fenton. It was an innocent quote about compete and not just giving up. ok then so they are just stupid in how they communicate publicly ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) that'll learn 'em there, Billie Edited February 11, 2020 by Shift-4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, grandmaster said: Read the quote. He stated what he stated and tried to back track a bit. His actions also speak louder than what you may have listened. Wild's owner is not interested in just making the playoffs. He wants to win a Cup. Guerin knows very well that this team is not good enough to win Cup. They don't even have playmaking Cs. The Wild have made the playoffs 6 times in a row without going further than the 2nd round. Owner Leipold was fed up with that and fired Fletcher making the comment that the team is good but not good enough. Fenton was tasked to shake up the core because they realised that the core they earmarked was not going to bring them a Cup - that's why Niederreiter, Coyle, Granlund and now Zucker are all gone. Guerin's role is to build a legit Cup contending team - not just a team that makes the playoffs. The roster isn't there yet but their young players have to continue to progress to show that they can be part of that Cup contending team. That's why compete matters. Making the playoffs has to be the goal but if they miss and competed hard so be it - the roster is not good enough to win it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I'd be the first one up in his office if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Perhaps not the best way to handle / communicate expectations, but i'm guessing he only did it this way due to previous / ongoing issues re: culture and dedication / effort??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Is he saying Zucker took his foot off the pedal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, Shift-4 said: that'll learn 'em there, Billie Are those AirPods or is their Something about Minny? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Not sure that's a wise thing to say. Did he not just essentially call out the player he dumped for an overpayment? If you like overpayments, you don't call the guys you're shopping quitters. Perhaps not a direct line of quit to Zucker, but it reads like that on a certain level.... In any event, by all means, we'll take Foligno, thanks. Rask, Donato types are available = name your price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, mll said: Wild's owner is not interested in just making the playoffs. He wants to win a Cup. Guerin knows very well that this team is not good enough to win Cup. They don't even have playmaking Cs. The Wild have made the playoffs 6 times in a row without going further than the 2nd round. Owner Leipold was fed up with that and fired Fletcher making the comment that the team is good but not good enough. Fenton was tasked to shake up the core because they realised that the core they earmarked was not going to bring them a Cup - that's why Niederreiter, Coyle, Granlund and now Zucker are all gone. Guerin's role is to build a legit Cup contending team - not just a team that makes the playoffs. The roster isn't there yet but their young players have to continue to progress to show that they can be part of that Cup contending team. That's why compete matters. Making the playoffs has to be the goal but if they miss and competed hard so be it - the roster is not good enough to win it all. What are you talking about? Their window is closing with the aging of their 2 foundational players. Everything you are saying and what they are doing completely contradictory. They sell off a producing top 6 for prospects and picks. Guerin threatens to trade more people and you say it’s a lie. Lots of mixed messages here The Wild are a messed up organization and you trying to make sense of them isn’t working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I always liked Minnesota - until they became the modern version - of which I enjoy every failure. That ownership group - talking tough at the last CBA - after having just signed Parise and Suter to 11th hour albatrosses. You've gotten everything that amateur build has deserved. Mid-range mediocrity. Don't feel a thing for you, except pleasure at your failures. Nothing against Guerin either - he's captaining a sinking ship. 'Good luck'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Im sure half the players would love a trade out of Minnesota. Teams been irrelevant for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, grandmaster said: What are you talking about? Their window is closing with the aging of their 2 foundational players. Everything you are saying and what they are doing completely contradictory. They sell off a producing top 6 for prospects and picks. Guerin threatens to trade more people and you say it’s a lie. Lots of mixed messages here The Wild are a messed up organization and you trying to make sense of them isn’t working. Their window is closed. Their future is going to be around guys like Kaprisov, Fiala, Boldy and whoever they draft now. That's why it was important to get another 1st to start that rebuild. They have no C1 or C2 coming any time soon. How do you want them to win a Cup. They can only hope that their young players continue to progress - they will only win once they are the ones driving the boat and not their slowing down veterans. In that interview Guerin says it was about the return that motivated the trade. Having a 2nd 1st in this deep draft. Edited February 11, 2020 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, grandmaster said: "Like I've said in the past, I'm not going to make trades just to try to make trades and fabricate something that's not good enough. If a deal makes sense we'll do it. If it doesn't, then we'll be patient and we'll wait." Not-so-thinly veiled shot at the previous GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said: Im sure half the players would love a trade out of Minnesota. Teams been irrelevant for years One of only 3 teams that made the playoffs 6 years in a row before last season. But as owner Leipold says good but not good enough. They built around the wrong core under Fletcher and are starting over. Edited February 11, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Well acquiring Galchenyuk was a good start lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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