Sell.the.team Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, 6string said: Not interested! you call out my post cause you don't get the reference, I explain the reference, all of a sudden not interested..... ya, im the lazy one here! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, stawns said: What was Madden's path to the NHL? He's not beating out Bo, Petey or AG.......wouldnt you agree? He'd also have a very tough time getting by Jasek, who is a great fit for the bottom 6 in a year, maybe two. There simply wasn't a place for Madden down the middle Well, they could’ve move Gaudette or Pettersson to the wing. A lot of good players benefit from moving to the wing (Lindholm, Forsberg, Giroux, Benn, Seguin, Schenn, ect). I was always adamant of moving Peter to the wing, where he can be the most productive and not worry about the defensive side of game. Not that he’s bad in his own end, but there are times where he looks completely lost or where he loses his man out there. Edited February 18, 2020 by shiznak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nuxfanabroad Posted February 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 So Rantanen left tonite, after crashing into the end boards(looked Shoulder, & pretty harsh). Kadri already out Tuch of LV looked bad, last wknd. Lots of key fwds are dropping. Might've been sharp to buy, pronto. Prices may well be rising. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: To say no one would celebrate Madden for Toffoli based on just a reddit post is foolish at best. I meant that no one was celebrating it from that post. Which is factually true. No one was celebrating that thought 51 days ago. I'm sure there are people who would've celebrated it 51 days ago, just like how there's people now who aren't celebrating it. But I'm taking about the majority. The majority clearly didn't like the trade proposal back then, and like the trade now. It's groupthink. Again, it doesn't make the trade bad, it just makes sports fans and large public groups in general confusing bunches to decipher lol Edited February 18, 2020 by Grape 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pickly Posted February 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Alflives said: We are far off, and going to get farther away if JB continues trading away top prospects and picks to just get into the playoffs. Top prospects. Like Hunter Shinkaruk and Jonathan Dahlin. Where they at now? Clearly the Canucks, who I assume know more than we do, thought they were in a good enough position to trade a 150 lb centerman who although is having a fine season in college, may or may never play in the league. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksCountry Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tystick said: No reason Toffoli wouldn't sign in Van unless his desire his max dollar max term. Guy is entering his prime, probably wants another chance at the cup, Kings are obviously about to rebuild. We're not there yet but we're close. Can't see why he wouldnt consider it. dont forget his good buddy tanner pearson plays for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: You're making me think that you don't fully understand how LTIR works. Basically, the 3.5 million does not exist unless / until Ferland resumes his career. In a really odd way, having someone on LTIR, actually gives the team more flexibility. Its weird, but its also why Toronto re-acquired David Clarkson last summer when he will never play another game in the NHL. They wanted the LTIR. Using LTIR makes it impossible to cover performance bonuses (Pettersson and Hughes), which means they will count against the cap next year. That's not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, The.Burrowers said: you call out my post cause you don't get the reference, I explain the reference, all of a sudden not interested..... ya, im the lazy one here! Got you to typeout a full and complete post. My job is done here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Nuxfanabroad said: So Rantanen left tonite, after crashing into the end boards(looked Shoulder, & pretty harsh). Kadri already out Tuch of LV looked bad, last wknd. Lots of key fwds are dropping. Might've been sharp to buy, pronto. Prices may well be rising. It did feel ripe now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Chris12345 said: We are about to get slaughtered by Vegas. We fell to third in the Pacific tonight. We could easily be out of a playoff spot by this time next week. If JB wanted to help the team he should have fired ?Green and brought in Gallant or Babcock. And that doesn’t cost the future. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Nuxfanabroad said: So Rantanen left tonite, after crashing into the end boards(looked Shoulder, & pretty harsh). Kadri already out Tuch of LV looked bad, last wknd. Lots of key fwds are dropping. Might've been sharp to buy, pronto. Prices may well be rising. I don't like the trade but I do prefer buying early. Typically prices are lower and it gives players more time to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, 6string said: Got you to typeout a full and complete post. My job is done here. ya... cause I haven't done that already in the last 10 pages .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, DonaldBrashear said: My wife, who has become a pretty big hockey nut, still isn't a big enough nut to follow other teams. So she doesn't know who Tyler Toffoli is. Well, when I saw the trade, I yelled out "BABE, WE GOT TYLER TOFFOLI!".... she said.... "What? I'm not tired of Chipotle". So we got Chipotle tonight for dinner and then I explained to her, over dinner, who Tyler Toffoli is. I will forever hear Shorthouse calling Chipolte's name during the broadcasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: You're making me think that you don't fully understand how LTIR works. Basically, the 3.5 million does not exist unless / until Ferland resumes his career. In a really odd way, having someone on LTIR, actually gives the team more flexibility. Its weird, but its also why Toronto re-acquired David Clarkson last summer when he will never play another game in the NHL. They wanted the LTIR. Yes and no. If we have to use LTIR over and above the cap limit, then it means we are not banking any cap space for performance bonuses. And these bonuses may be quite large this year and next year. This means if Ferland remains on LTIR it will absolutely affect the Canucks and our cap situation. Once you are over the cap limit and into LTIR then it doesn't really matter how far over you are on LTIR. For example, TOR didn't necessarily want more LTIR but since they were already over they could take some assets from another team along with the additional player on LTIR. So LTIR does have a negative effect on paying for performance bonuses and teams don't want to be using LTIR for that reason, unless they have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Alflives said: We fell to third in the Pacific tonight. We could easily be out of a playoff spot by this time next week. If JB wanted to help the team he should have fired ?Green and brought in Gallant or Babcock. And that doesn’t cost the future. We will see soon it suddenly got a lot tighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted February 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 Miller Petey Jake Pearson Bo Toffoli Roussel AG Sutter LE Beagle Mac I'll take that as a bandaid lineup. This move keeps them as legit div leaders as they wait for Boeser and Motte to get back Miller Petey Boeser Pearson Bo Toffoli Sutter AG Jake Roussel Beagle Motte Noice 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Using LTIR makes it impossible to cover performance bonuses (Pettersson and Hughes), which means they will count against the cap next year. That's not a good thing. In these circumstances, its not necessarily a bad thing. It just measn that we have to make sure that we do everything to encourage Eriksson to retire this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zduck14 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 hours ago, KelownaCanucksFan said: Only way they trade him right now is if it’s a legit top pair dman coming back There's a lot of pages to read through here but would you consider Dumba along those lines? I know he's having a down year but the whole Wild team has been that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: So Rantanen left tonite, after crashing into the end boards(looked Shoulder, & pretty harsh). Kadri already out Tuch of LV looked bad, last wknd. Lots of key fwds are dropping. Might've been sharp to buy, pronto. Prices may well be rising. “Have we got a player for you...is really quite a bargain”. Maybe someone will take LE (or not) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Yeah you the facts you made were pretty... Madden is definitely as touted and good as Hughes and Petey since weight doesn't matter and clearly where you are drafted doesn't either. You know a 3rd round pick is just as valuable as a 5th overall or 7th overall. Madden is definitely a top end prospect. NCAA is definitely better than professional leagues in Sweden or Russia. Playing against men in a pro league means nothing so he must be better than Hogs and Pods. I mean it's not like Motte was a Hobey Baker finalist, only good players get those nods. NCAA success is a lot more better than any other, clearly a top end prospect on our team It's definitely safe to say that Madden will play 10+ seasons too. He doesn't have any massive hurtles to overcome or anything and is definitely as touted as our other young guys who were underweight but drafted much higher than him, that means nothing. Madden could supply the bottom 6 grit we desperately need if we are overcrowded in the top 6. I mean i'd rather have Madden than a Reaves or Martin protecting Petey and bringing about a physical presence, who wouldn't with that 160lbs body. Also Toffoli won't re-sign here, I mean the Canucks won't even try, it's not like there was conditional pick stating that if he did re-sign LA would be compensated or anything to tell us otherwise. yeah Finally, got some content for an actual conversation. a) Motte was a Hobey Baker finalist on a stacked Michigan team. Connor and Compher both finished ahead of him in points, and that team also had Werenski. The NCAA developed Quinn Hughes and Gaudette so it's not some "farce" league. There was no discussion of Pods and Hoglander, but Madden was still a top prospect on the team. He's carrying Northeastern on his back. b) It's the classic "truculence" obsession on CDC. I really thought this was a thing of the past, especially after we drafted Pettersson and Hughes. Tyler Toffoli isn't going to defend Pettersson on the same level as Martin or Reaves. If the Canucks wanted "truculence", they should've went after Blake Coleman or Wayne Simmonds. c) Many on CDC have this weird obsession with weight. You can build a skilled team that is complemented with tougher players. Toffoli isn't the grit you are looking for though, so I have no idea where this conversation enters the fray. If the Canucks traded Madden for a young power forward, it's a completely different situation. d) The trade does improve if Toffoli re-signs, but that is up in the air on either side. yeah Edited February 18, 2020 by Darkstar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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