JeremyCuddles Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, theo5789 said: As much as I love Stecher, he plays a replaceable role on the team. The only thing we lose is depth, but even then, we can give Rafferty a look, maybe even Chatfield and worst case is Benn and Fantenberg could fill his spot for the time being and we can still have Sautner and Brisebois up in the pressbox as well. Bide some time until hopefully Tryamkin returns and we have a full compliment of depth back while giving some of the guys a look and give them some experience should we need to call upon them in the playoffs. We may even see Rathbone sign with us. If we are down so many dmen that our depth is that tested, most teams aren't going to able to manage that. I'm fine with getting some value back for Stecher. The difference between him and Tanev is that Tanev plays a much bigger role that is harder to replace in such a short time. Stecher is averaging the least amount of TOI per game even less than Benn and Fantenberg (mostly because Stecher isn't used much on any special teams). He's dependable and a good guy, but from a playing standpoint, he's replaceable. This coaching staff has not used lefties on the right side consistently outside of injury situations. Why do people keeping bringing up lefties as replacements for righties? And if an injury happens what is a 3rd round draft pick gonna do for us in the playoffs? Chatfield and Rafferty we don't even know if they can handle the NHL, let alone throwing them in right at the playoffs. It makes little sense, especially after trading picks for Toffoli. This isn't NHL 20 where players sell and buy simultaneously. Right hand depth on defense is way too thin to sell one of the few NHL caliber d-men we do have for a 3rd rounder of all things. I'd trade Stecher to upgrade our right d, not to recoup a mid round draft pick. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Saw this also, not sure how creditable this guy is. I would do Gaudette, Stecher, and 2021 2nd/3rd for Risto. He writes for the Province if I'm not mistaken, so he's clearly a clown. 1 2 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, rekker said: If JB trades Woo for Simmonds I will lose my $&!#. Just, no. No kidding eh. Woo, a promising defenseman, for Simmonds, a guy who's passed his prime, and is no longer the player he used to be. Yeah, that's just a bad trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: He writes for the Province if I'm not mistaken, so he's clearly a clown. Gaudette to be traded?? Wow, then what was the point of trading Madden. lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Saw this also, not sure how creditable this guy is. I would do Gaudette, Stecher, and 2021 2nd/3rd for Risto. I think a lot of names are being thrown around. I highly doubt Benning would trade Gaudette now, especially after he didn't for PK Subban. The Preds wanted Gaudette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: This coaching staff has not used lefties on the right side consistently outside of injury situations. Why do people keeping bringing up lefties as replacements for righties? And if an injury happens what is a 3rd round draft pick gonna do for us in the playoffs? Chatfield and Rafferty we don't even know if they can handle the NHL, let alone throwing them in right at the playoffs. It makes little sense, especially after trading picks for Toffoli. This isn't NHL 20 where players sell and buy simultaneously. Right hand depth on defense is way too thin to sell one of the few NHL caliber d-men we do have for a 3rd rounder of all things. I'd trade Stecher to upgrade our right d, not to recoup a mid round draft pick. Lol. I remember Hansen was thrown into the playoffs. Wasn't Schneider thrown in as well for Lu? It happens. But your right, not ideal to throw the kids into a high pressure playoff hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, N4ZZY said: Gaudette to be traded?? Pure speculation by a Province writer saying he heard Gaudette's name "whispered in a couple of places". Wouldn't take it too seriously. Just now, N4ZZY said: Wow, then what was the point of trading Madden. lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, rekker said: If JB trades Woo for Simmonds I will lose my $&!#. Just, no. 100% there can be no defending that by anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, N4ZZY said: I remember Hansen was thrown into the playoffs. Wasn't Schneider thrown in as well for Lu? It happens. But your right, not ideal to throw the kids into a high pressure playoff hockey. I don't recall Schneider, mostly cause I imagine it was one or two games? And Hansen plays bottom 6 wing. Rafferty and Chatfield would be playing defense which is harder to transition to in the NHL and much more valuable, even in a 3rd pair role. I accept the point there are players that get thrown in and it's fine, I still don't think we should do it. It's a bit too high risk for a team that is this inexperienced in my books. And they are both undrafted players. Not exactly top flight prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Pure speculation by a Province writer saying he heard Gaudette's name "whispered in a couple of places". Wouldn't take it too seriously. yeah, i know. can get crazy with the trade deadline a few days away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, N7Nucks said: I don't recall Schneider, mostly cause I imagine it was one or two games? And Hansen plays bottom 6 wing. Rafferty and Chatfield would be playing defense which is harder to transition to in the NHL and much more valuable, even in a 3rd pair role. I accept the point there are players that get thrown in and it's fine, I still don't think we should do it. It's a bit too high risk for a team that is this inexperienced in my books. And they are both undrafted players. Not exactly top flight prospects. yeah. totally agree. this is a very green team. with not a lot of experience for the postseason. they have some veterans, but still. i'd be surprised if this team won a playoff round, let alone 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian42 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: Makes sense. Trade him to recoup some picks... hopefully a 2nd. Bring up Rafferty and then sign Tram when his team is done. I agree, would prefer Tanev for a 1 Because we will still be tight against the cap next year and I’d like to re-sign Toffoli but if they are against that, this is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, riffraff said: 100% there can be no defending that by anyone. if benning did this. he'd have to be fired. there's no reason for the GM to give away defensive prospects, when the organization's defensive prospect depth isn't even that great to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, brian42 said: I agree, would prefer Tanev for a 1 Because we will still be tight against the cap next year and I’d like to re-sign Toffoli but if they are against that, this is the way to go. Trade Tanev before the playoffs? Would be suicide for the team's chances in the postseason, but also leading up to it. The team, unfortunately, needs him. He'll walk in UFA for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Stecher is good value for what he brings... but we shall see. If he is going, then maybe Severson is a target from New Jersey and not just Simmonds. We need an upgrade on D more than we need Simmonds... but both would work pretty darn well. If we get Severson who is signed long term, then Juolevi becomes surplus to needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, N4ZZY said: yeah. totally agree. this is a very green team. with not a lot of experience for the postseason. they have some veterans, but still. i'd be surprised if this team won a playoff round, let alone 2. With our division, it's possible to win a round. But we have to finish in the top 2 of our division to have a really good shot at winning a round. Just getting there and competing is great though. Which is why I don't wanna trade any roster players for 3rd round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, Provost said: Stecher is good value for what he brings... but we shall see. If he is going, then maybe Severson is a target from New Jersey and not just Simmonds. We need an upgrade on D more than we need Simmonds... but both would work pretty darn well. If we get Severson who is signed long term, then Juolevi becomes surplus to needs. The only way I sign off on a Stecher deal is if we get a upgrade at the right D spot in another trade. Severson would be a nice add and could replace Tanev next season if need be. Would bolster our run this season and in future seasons. But just trading Stecher for the sake of a 3rd round pick is ass backwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) If Gaudettes name is being thrown around it’s because other teams are jealous of his awesome celleys and are asking if he’s available. Can’t see Benning wanting to deal him. He’s our third line Center going forward. Sutter is gone at least in a years time Edited February 19, 2020 by Devron44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian42 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, theo5789 said: I think we could get DeMelo value for Stecher. Not sure Id do that we have guys that can fill in but there would be a bit of a drop off, I’d hold out for a 2 and I think we could get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pavelbure96 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Why on earth would we trade Gaudette? That makes no sense especially after trading Tyler Madden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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