J.I.A.H.N Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 OK, I love proposals for the sake of discussion, but I would hope Jim Benning would take a break from trying to pick up players for the sake of a playoff run. IMO, yes it would be great to get the kids some experience, but not at all costs. We have moved 2 important assets in the past year. one being the 1st round pick, which was a good move picking Miller, and I am all for picking up Toffoli, if he gets re-signed, for Madden and that 2nd. But to continue to move additional pieces, to pick up players for the playoffs, falls in the face of getting the kids playoff experience. If we are in fact trying to get the kids the playoff experience? The other caveat on this is that, we will either have to sign and expose someone else, or let them walk. This is the case of Toffoli, who is the 8th "core" type forward, where we can only protect 7...…...so in order of protection....Pettersson, Horvat, Miller, Boeser, Toffoli, Virtanen, Gaudette, and Pearson. It would be a shame to loose one of that calibre of player, after spending all that asset. We have the beginning of a real nice looking team, who will be at their peak 2 years from now. But as we enter that era of our re-build, we will need to continue to add young ELC's to our line-up and farm team. We will need those picks, which will have its successes and its failures. And more importantly, we will need our young prospects that we have accumulated, to fill those ELC's as our veterans are moved or retire. IMO, there is no need, nor the will from the Canuck fan base to add any more...….. JB...………...Stand down! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Simmons for a 4th and gadjovic. Get it done JB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) I'd do a deal for someone like Manson, who is on a reasonable contact with term and in their prime. Same idea as the Miller trade Edited February 21, 2020 by King Heffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: OK, I love proposals for the sake of discussion, but I would hope Jim Benning would take a break from trying to pick up players for the sake of a playoff run. I have a feeling JB is doing this at the request of his boss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 According to 1040 JB may have no choice but to stand down. They might not be able to afford SImmonds because Boeser might be back before end of season. Something to do with Cap, the LTIR , and simmonds contract. The math cant add up unless they get rid of someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 i heard that if they don’t get simmonds, JB would try to get another physical player. i’ld just like to see them move baertschi for a pick or prospect. if they paid half his money, could the move louie for something or would we have to add a prospect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 In the name of looooove before you break my heart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 stop hammer time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: OK, I love proposals for the sake of discussion, but I would hope Jim Benning would take a break from trying to pick up players for the sake of a playoff run. IMO, yes it would be great to get the kids some experience, but not at all costs. We have moved 2 important assets in the past year. one being the 1st round pick, which was a good move picking Miller, and I am all for picking up Toffoli, if he gets re-signed, for Madden and that 2nd. But to continue to move additional pieces, to pick up players for the playoffs, falls in the face of getting the kids playoff experience. If we are in fact trying to get the kids the playoff experience? The other caveat on this is that, we will either have to sign and expose someone else, or let them walk. This is the case of Toffoli, who is the 8th "core" type forward, where we can only protect 7...…...so in order of protection....Pettersson, Horvat, Miller, Boeser, Toffoli, Virtanen, Gaudette, and Pearson. It would be a shame to loose one of that calibre of player, after spending all that asset. We have the beginning of a real nice looking team, who will be at their peak 2 years from now. But as we enter that era of our re-build, we will need to continue to add young ELC's to our line-up and farm team. We will need those picks, which will have its successes and its failures. And more importantly, we will need our young prospects that we have accumulated, to fill those ELC's as our veterans are moved or retire. IMO, there is no need, nor the will from the Canuck fan base to add any more...….. JB...………...Stand down! My personal thoughts are, unless there's a deal that pops up that's unbelievable value, he's done on moves that will effect our team immediately. IMO, any other moves will be balancing our prospect pool, looking for opportunities to strengthen areas of weakness from positions of strength. Will not be surprised if he manages to move Baerstchi before the deadline, to a team looking for scoring depth for the playoffs. Could see them try and move someone like David Pope for future consideration, just to free up another contract slot so that he can be aggressive with some of the college free agents and maybe Tryamkin. Could be wrong, but I really don't think he'll do anything more that tweaking here and there around the edges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said: OK, I love proposals for the sake of discussion, but I would hope Jim Benning would take a break from trying to pick up players for the sake of a playoff run. IMO, yes it would be great to get the kids some experience, but not at all costs. We have moved 2 important assets in the past year. one being the 1st round pick, which was a good move picking Miller, and I am all for picking up Toffoli, if he gets re-signed, for Madden and that 2nd. But to continue to move additional pieces, to pick up players for the playoffs, falls in the face of getting the kids playoff experience. If we are in fact trying to get the kids the playoff experience? The other caveat on this is that, we will either have to sign and expose someone else, or let them walk. This is the case of Toffoli, who is the 8th "core" type forward, where we can only protect 7...…...so in order of protection....Pettersson, Horvat, Miller, Boeser, Toffoli, Virtanen, Gaudette, and Pearson. It would be a shame to loose one of that calibre of player, after spending all that asset. We have the beginning of a real nice looking team, who will be at their peak 2 years from now. But as we enter that era of our re-build, we will need to continue to add young ELC's to our line-up and farm team. We will need those picks, which will have its successes and its failures. And more importantly, we will need our young prospects that we have accumulated, to fill those ELC's as our veterans are moved or retire. IMO, there is no need, nor the will from the Canuck fan base to add any more...….. JB...………...Stand down! I would think he is picking up players for the Nucks to get to the playoffs which could be an important factor in his job security. The drop off they have been having needs to stop and get back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Westcoasting said: I would think he is picking up players for the Nucks to get to the playoffs ywhich could be an important factor in his job securit. The drop off they have been having needs to stop and get back on track. I am sure that has a part in it..... Bottom line for me is. #`1. Keep our prospects # 2. Keep our remaining picks # 3. Trade spare parts # 4. Protect cap/Shed Cap # 5. Give the kids some experience in regular season - NOW! # 6. Playoff experience 38 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: My personal thoughts are, unless there's a deal that pops up that's unbelievable value, he's done on moves that will effect our team immediately. IMO, any other moves will be balancing our prospect pool, looking for opportunities to strengthen areas of weakness from positions of strength. Will not be surprised if he manages to move Baerstchi before the deadline, to a team looking for scoring depth for the playoffs. Could see them try and move someone like David Pope for future consideration, just to free up another contract slot so that he can be aggressive with some of the college free agents and maybe Tryamkin. Could be wrong, but I really don't think he'll do anything more that tweaking here and there around the edges. IMO, our Talent Pool is pretty even through out right now...... Youth on the big club in all positions Podkolzin, Hoglander, Jasek, Focht, MacEwen and Lind up front Juolevi, Rathbone, Brisebois, Tryamkin, Woo and Rafferty 3/3 IMO that is good distribution on Defence Demko, DiPietro and Silovs Long, long, long shots...Teves and Utunen????????? Looks pretty good if not unproven...... Yes, to more NCAA UFA's...…………….he should never stop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, 73 Percent said: Simmons for a 4th and gadjovic. Get it done JB JB isnt done, hes either gonna grab another D or Wayne Simmons ....just depends what we have to give up for eitherone ....my gut feeling hes gonna try for wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) not sure what the worry is jb said he has 7 prospect players that he is confident will make the main team over the next 2 seasons brock got hurt and could upset the calibre of play the team has been acheiving and could result in the team not making the playoffs toffoli was acquired to replace brock if brock was not injured, and toffoli was not acquired, jb likely still wanted one more piece so he likely still does that is pretty shrewd on his part he has lots of depth lots of low draft picks left from this draft so no, do not necessarily stop cuz some poster says so i say get this team in if another small piece or 2 can get that done the core has to get playoff experience now they had a very strong january for a change let's build on it the team would benefit most from it's important players stepping up a bit team needs a bit more from petey, bo, virt and pearson and if marky could just get his play a tiny step higher like he was playing before then this team should make the playoffs let's enjoy this run and not spend too much time second guessing management they have built a solid prospect pool and if they think it important to dip into that pool a bit now i cannot argue against their decision Edited February 21, 2020 by coastal.view 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: IMO, our Talent Pool is pretty even through out right now...... Youth on the big club in all positions Podkolzin, Hoglander, Jasek, Focht, MacEwen and Lind up front Juolevi, Rathbone, Brisebois, Tryamkin, Woo and Rafferty 3/3 IMO that is good distribution on Defence Demko, DiPietro and Silovs Long, long, long shots...Teves and Utunen????????? Looks pretty good if not unproven...... Yes, to more NCAA UFA's...…………….he should never stop! Generally agree, but sometimes there's room for some tweaking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: Generally agree, but sometimes there's room for some tweaking. Yes, and sometimes there is room for twirking! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 We are mostly set for our first taste of playoff experience with the early parts of our new core. We need to fill Ferland's skill and militarism by MacEwen or a deal for the playoffs - exit Eriksson ( press box ). We should not disrupt the chemistry in the locker room the young men are enjoying amongst themselves by extracting one of them, that can wait for the offseason. Manson or Simmons would be on my radar. Barrie plain nonsense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Somewhat concerned with all the rumors floating around, but jim earned the benefit of the doubt for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: The other caveat on this is that, we will either have to sign and expose someone else, or let them walk. This is the case of Toffoli, who is the 8th "core" type forward, where we can only protect 7...…...so in order of protection....Pettersson, Horvat, Miller, Boeser, Toffoli, Virtanen, Gaudette, and Pearson. It would be a shame to loose one of that calibre of player, after spending all that asset. Pearson will be UFA in a year so unless they extend him before, he wouldn’t need expansion draft protection. Edited February 21, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, mll said: Pearson will be UFA in a year so unless they extend him before, he wouldn’t need expansion draft protection. Well, I guess it depends if they want to re-sign him...….I sure would not want him walking in free agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: Well, I guess it depends if they want to re-sign him...….I sure would not want him walking in free agency They can have discussions to tell him they want him back and sign him after the draft. It’s also the same year that Pettersson, Hughes are up and they will likely be the priority. Canucks cap situation is unclear with Markstrom, Toffoli, Tanev etc this season. Who comes back, at what costs, are they moving contracts, what about the bonus overage next season, Ferland’s LTIR status all have an impact on the cap. The roster after the summer will give a far clearer picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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