Popular Post aqua59 Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 Well here it is one week after the trade deadline and the Canucks have fallen face flat on the ice. I just finished reading an article regarding Boston moving David Backes to the Ducks. The article is clear that moving David Backes to the Ducks gave the Bruins some much needed cap space to make some moves. It was a five year $30 million deal. Sound familiar? It was a sound move on the Bruins part. It seems every team has an albatross contract these days but no where near as many as Vancouver. Meanwhile in Vancouver there are more than one crap deal that's on the books. Loui Ericksson, 6million /year Sven Baertschi, 2.7million /year, on the books n the minors because he can't cut it. Nikolay Goldobin, $900,000. /year Brandon Sutter, $4.375,000/year Total $13,975,000 Now I'm not clear on how much of this actually counts against the Canucks cap but regardless this is an expensive pair of handcuffs haunting this team. That's a lot of money to sign present players to new contracts but even more so there would have been leverage the team could have dearly used this past trade deadline. This right now not tomorrow Jim. These are 4 players basically moot when on the ice and yes I'm including Brandon Sutter. He's prone to injury and hasn't done much other than shadow the odd guy of late. Disappointing veteran who could have led the way yesterday by example of how to finish a game out. Loui Ericksson, the best open net specialist in the league, does nothing. How many times have we seen Loui not being able to finish with a clear scoring chance most others would bury? I'm really getting tired of hearing the ",hes so good defensively," line. Meanwhile JB states they can draw from within? Maybe so but Travis Green has to play those call ups sitting in the press box. If we can live with Loui we can live with a up and comers growth mistakes. That's how a player grows isn't it? The other two stuck in the minors belong there. Vancouver is no where near big or tough enough. The skill that Benning has drafted has been great to say the least yet his business dealings have been a disaster. So it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other. Should Benning remain in charge of this group? After this past road trip I say it's time the Aquilini's to strongly consider change, which I think they have done long ago but are waiting to re evaluate at seasons end. JB has cost the group a lot of money and they have been more than patient, they threw their support behind? Benning over Linden which fractured the relationship between the Canucks and Trevor Linden. The cost has been beyond money. (I'm not saying things would be any different with Linden's direction either, we don't know because he isn't here). Any one stating this is a worthy play off team has to re-evaluate their position. The losses on this road trip were the wrong kind of losses to be involved in at this time of year. They were choker losses. If I watch Toronto and think they are an impostor chump team that will never get past, Boston, Washington nor Tampa in the playoffs how do we think Vancouver would do in the West? St Louis, Colorado and Vegas are ramping things up and steam rolling these days. Do we think Vancouver is ready for these teams? The Goaltending with Markstrom out has not been good but part of that is due to the team play in front of the goalies. Markstrom has covered up a lot of flaws this. Look at the shots allowed every game. It's insane, far too many. This team is not built for the play offs. It's still an October team. This team needs another lottery draft and some big changes in the front office this off season. I really like JB and have supported him over all hoping for some drastic change. Prudent drafting has saved this mans job but i'm starting to think his contract may not be renewed in the off season and I'm not against that. It's time to move on from Jim Benning. I'm not happy. This past road trip took me back to the feeling of last season's group. Not good enough with some great players. 2 3 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickly Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 If the Canucks miss the playoffs I bet Benning will be on the hot seat regardless of the fact he got an extension. Still, I have optimism that they will make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 If the Canucks miss the playoffs it will be Green that will be leaving not the guy who drafted Petey and Quinn. 4 9 1 2 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roger Neilsons Towel Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 One bad road trip and it’s fire everyone eh? Gotta love CDC. 2 1 13 15 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sassbs Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) Is everyone forgetting what this man has done to this club? Sure he has made some questionable moves, which GM hasn’t? Before he showed up our top prospects were who? Gaunce and Shinikuruk (sp?). Now look at what we have. So much depth that trading madden wasn’t an issue. Granted he came in 2014... and it’s been slightly over 5 years but during those 5 years he has made this club into an exciting dynamic team. I love what Benning has done! It’s the rest of the staff that needs to piss off! Including green/pp/pk coaches. Edited March 2, 2020 by sassbs 3 5 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 I said at the time of the Tofu trade that Madden and a second (assets wasted IMO) should have been used as sweetener in a deal this summer (or at that TDL) to dump Loui, or Sutter, or Baer. We needed to clear one of those three deadwood contracts more than getting Tofu, and just trying to squeeze into the playoffs. Now, we will miss the playoffs, and still have to dump those contracts. Can you say wasted assets getting piled on to the already high pile? I accept I’ve been negative on the team’s drpirection and coaching for a while, but IMO the facts justify the serious concern. We have Petey and Hughes. These are two generational players. We should be building around them, so when they are physically and emotionally mature we have the support players needed for them to lead us to Cups. Going all in now is a foolish waste of assets, that will be needed when we actually are ready. This is not JB though. He is only the puppet; Aquilini is the puppeteer. Any GM Aquilini hires will be one he can control. He will not hire a strong willed, and experienced GM. Plus, those guys won’t work here anyway. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aliboy Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 Hey, we beat Boston 9-3, we're set. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: One bad road trip and it’s fire everyone eh? Gotta love CDC. 2 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, aliboy said: Hey, we beat Boston 9-3, we're set. That was a long time ago. We’ve had a bad road trip now. Time to tear it down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: That was a long time ago. We’ve had a bad road trip now. Time to tear it down. Lol time for a rebuild 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: I said at the time of the Tofu trade that Madden and a second (assets wasted IMO) should have been used as sweetener in a deal this summer (or at that TDL) to dump Loui, or Sutter, or Baer. We needed to clear one of those three deadwood contracts more than getting Tofu, and just trying to squeeze into the playoffs. Now, we will miss the playoffs, and still have to dump those contracts. Can you say wasted assets getting piled on to the already high pile? I accept I’ve been negative on the team’s drpirection and coaching for a while, but IMO the facts justify the serious concern. We have Petey and Hughes. These are two generational players. We should be building around them, so when they are physically and emotionally mature we have the support players needed for them to lead us to Cups. Going all in now is a foolish waste of assets, that will be needed when we actually are ready. This is not JB though. He is only the puppet; Aquilini is the puppeteer. Any GM Aquilini hires will be one he can control. He will not hire a strong willed, and experienced GM. Plus, those guys won’t work here anyway. I think that we will re-sign Toffoli. He is a better player than Brock at this point and we can get some good capital coming back as well as dumping a bad contract by trading Brock. So it's not the end of the world. Demko can also be used as a sweetener to get rid of Sutter or Roussel. At this point signing Markstrom is Benning's highest priority this summer. His value has increased at least $1 million in the last week. Edited March 2, 2020 by Elias Pettersson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 That Goldobin contract in Utica is just killing our cap management! Thanks Obama Benning! 2 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: One bad road trip and it’s fire everyone eh? Gotta love CDC. I think several of us posters are on the record here of calling for Green to be replaced for a lot longer than just this road trip. It’s been a couple months. Green’s systems (especially his forecheck) as I have been pointing our out, don’t work in the NHL. The D men are too good. Or sure there will be the odd turnover, but in most cases we end up chasing, because we get caught. Teams in the NHL fall back into a neutral zone trap because they must. Green’s systems are for junior and the AHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Alflives said:. This is not JB though. He is only the puppet; Aquilini is the puppeteer. Any GM Aquilini hires will be one he can control. He will not hire a strong willed, and experienced GM. Plus, those guys won’t work here anyway. I wonder if this is why Linden left. He had a vision and it didn’t go well with Aquaman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roger Neilsons Towel Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Alflives said: I think several of us posters are on the record here of calling for Green to be replaced for a lot longer than just this road trip. It’s been a couple months. Green’s systems (especially his forecheck) as I have been pointing our out, don’t work in the NHL. The D men are too good. Or sure there will be the odd turnover, but in most cases we end up chasing, because we get caught. Teams in the NHL fall back into a neutral zone trap because they must. Green’s systems are for junior and the AHL. This thread is about firing Jim Benning. Try to keep up Alf! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, sassbs said: Lol time for a rebuild Of course not. And it’s well past the time to replace Green. That ship sailed weeks ago. If Green does not change his philosophy of passive play, and junior league systems we will certainly miss the playoffs. Then, after the season, Aquilini will tell JB what to do. It’s not like Aquilini hasn’t been JB’s puppeteer all along anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: This thread is about firing Jim Benning. Try to keep up Alf! Got any of those blue pills? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roger Neilsons Towel Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Got any of those blue pills? Time to go further down the rabbit hole..... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigmund.Palffy Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Man we hired someone to deal with our cap situation, benning has a plan let it play it out and see what they have up their sleeves 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, sassbs said: I wonder if this is why Linden left. He had a vision and it didn’t go well with Aquaman. IMO that’s became kind of obvious from what Linden said in his latest radio interview. He gave credit Bracket for the teams’ recent draft success. Is it any wonder Linden quit, and Bracket is quitting too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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