[GDT] Canucks vs Coyotes - Wednesday March 4th 2020 at 7:30 PST - "Please don't lose again" Edition

[Jack in the box]

[Squamfan]

2 minutes ago, bree2 said:

every game Petersson has been thrown down, crosschecked, slashed numerous times. other teams constantly use two guys on him, because he is so good. the refs rarely help, as we have seen. Same as Hughes , but both of these guys do not complain they are just troopers and keep playing the game. to say these two are not playing well is bogus!!!!

 

 

4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

He's not going to be the skinny kid forever, obviously. As he gets older, he'll fill out. In the meantime though, Benning needs at least one legitimate brute who has size, not just height. A player who actually enjoys the idea of sticking up for his teammates.

 

I'm hoping the days of signing half-assed, part-time "agitators" like Roussel are over.

Green needs to pull a torts and rip the refs, and say if that 88 in Boston. 34, in Toronto, 97 Edmonton , those are penalties 

[Nicklas Bo Hunter]

Just now, bree2 said:

every game Petersson has been thrown down, crosschecked, slashed numerous times. other teams constantly use two guys on him, because he is so good. the refs rarely help, as we have seen. Same as Hughes , but both of these guys do not complain they are just troopers and keep playing the game. to say these two are not playing well is bogus!!!!

 

its not bogus. Hughes has been bad in the D zone. it is a fact. He constantly turns the puck over and even coughed the puck up with the net empty so Bobby Ryan could get his hatrick. Is he playing well offensively? sure. But lets be real he has a flaw in his game that he has to work on.. Could it be because he is being bullied by the other teams goons? sure but he has to work through that... Makar isn't getting it easy either but he is not giving as many turn overs and that's why his +- is better. I love Hughes and I hope he can learn how to deal with this.

[GritGrinder]

1 hour ago, IBatch said:

A couple other times during the season the team had bad stretches, part of both were key injuries.  Losing Markstrom and BB has definitely impacted the team this time.    Even the best teams have bad stretches, difference between them and us is they have better players and deeper teams (WSH, Boston, TB and PIT).   PIT recently lost 6 in a row and are still struggling to get out of theirs - and Crosby is back.   The best I think we can hope for is the team rallying around each other and again pulling themselves out of the funk they are in.  If they can do that without Markstrom and BB then I'd say we are also a pretty solid team right now (and our coaching isn't terrible like some seem to think).  If not then just file this in the chest as just another Canuck failure.   It's a pretty full chest, but this is the Canucks after all and getting your heart ripped out is pretty normal ha ha. 

 

Who knows.  Maybe our goaltending will heat up - or our support players will start pitching in like they have many times earlier this season.   Maybe Tree will be allowed to comeback and be amazing.   Maybe he lose every game from here on out and TG is told not to let the door hit his ass on the way out.   Probably something in between.  

I think the most frustrating part (and why we're seeing ridiculous "fights" among "fans" in GDT/PGT's the last week or so) is that the way injuries have killed the last few seasons, this season it was looking much better. Look at the top 6-7 forwards, top 5-6 D and Goalies,up until Boeser and Marky went down there were little to no man games lost with Edler's 10 being the highest and Miller, EP, Horvat, Pearson, Virtanen, Hughes, Tanev, Myers, Stecher missing a combined 2 games. The timing of the injuries to top players (particularly Marky) is the real kick in the plums that has the fanbase on edge even more-so than usual.

Edited March 3, 2020 by GritGrinder

[brownky]

9 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

He's not going to be the skinny kid forever, obviously. As he gets older, he'll fill out. In the meantime though, Benning needs at least one legitimate brute who has size, not just height. A player who actually enjoys the idea of sticking up for his teammates.

 

I'm hoping the days of signing half-assed, part-time "agitators" like Roussel are over.

I'd settle for half-ass from him at this point. Right now it's no-ass and bad penalties.

[Devron]

1 minute ago, brownky said:

I'd settle for half-ass from him at this point. Right now it's no-ass and bad penalties.

Haha true that 

[Playoff Grit]

8 minutes ago, bree2 said:

every game Petersson has been thrown down, crosschecked, slashed numerous times. other teams constantly use two guys on him, because he is so good. the refs rarely help, as we have seen. Same as Hughes , but both of these guys do not complain they are just troopers and keep playing the game. to say these two are not playing well is bogus!!!!

 

 

Miller -Petey - MacEwan
Pearson -Horvat-Toffoli 

 

 

MacEwan seems to be the only guy in the entire organization that might provide any sort of accountability for cheap shots on Petey.

 

Too bad Ferland is broken.

 

The theory was right , just not the due diligence.
 

 

 

[smithers joe]

16 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

I think that this team has a few veterans who are a serious problem, who bring the team down with their poor effort and decisions. Antoine Roussel, Brandon Sutter, and Loui Eriksson are half of the bottom six, and are a drag on the overall effectiveness of the team.

 

These players are supposedly called on for their "veteran leadership" and are failing miserably. There are vets like Markstrom, Tanev, Edler, and Beagle who actually play with the same intensity as the young core, who put themselves on the line. They truly represent the best that a team can get from their veterans.

 

Hopefully Benning sees the lousy veterans for who they are and moves then for picks.

 

The team is fragmented right now and needs to sort it out.

benning has said that they will have tough decisions to make in the off season and not everyone will be back. right now they have to go with what they’ve got. if they got rid of everyone on this team who has made mental mistakes, there would be no one left. the games i’ve watch, louie and sutter haven’t played bad at all. suts took a bad penalty last game but played a strong game otherwise. everyone played great for 50 minutes. 2 bad penalties and a few poor decisions cost them that game. over the course of the year, everyone has made poor decisions. petey, bo, miller, boeser, quinn and even markstrom.  lets at least be honest about this. 

[wloutet]

I was going to write this limerick:

"Always been a fan of the Canuck,

But on draft numbers there was no luck.

But getting EP40 and Hughes,

Have stifled all the boos,

And now they very rarely suck! "

However after the last few games, I'm not sure I will....

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

30 minutes ago, Gassy Jack said:

 

[Dumb Nuck]

34 minutes ago, Gassy Jack said:

I hope that orca doesn’t beach itself.

[Dumb Nuck]

39 minutes ago, bree2 said:

every game Petersson has been thrown down, crosschecked, slashed numerous times. other teams constantly use two guys on him, because he is so good. the refs rarely help, as we have seen. Same as Hughes , but both of these guys do not complain they are just troopers and keep playing the game. to say these two are not playing well is bogus!!!!

 

Problem is that the shots add up, every cheap shot they don’t take helps in the long run and if you think it’s bad now wait till we make the playoffs.

Edited March 3, 2020 by Dumb Nuck

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

Here's hoping the Canucks come up with a great effort and come away with 2 points. Go Canucks go!

[mll]

35 minutes ago, Squamfan said:

 

Green needs to pull a torts and rip the refs, and say if that 88 in Boston. 34, in Toronto, 97 Edmonton , those are penalties 

Pettersson is not an exception.  McDavid plays through plenty of abuse.  Hitchcock got mad last year but it didn't change anything.  

[IBatch]

53 minutes ago, Devron44 said:

I don’t know man it’s weird how we started losing after we started fighting. I believe there’s a time and place. But superstars get cheap shotted across the league. We just think we are special imo

What is "weird" is we starting losing after BB went down, and continued to lose once Markstrom went down too.   Fighting - well it's about time. 

[PhillipBlunt]

51 minutes ago, Devron44 said:

I don’t know man it’s weird how we started losing after we started fighting. I believe there’s a time and place. But superstars get cheap shotted across the league. We just think we are special imo

I don't think that there's a correlation between losing and the increase in pushback. Plenty of the penalties that have costed the team a game, haven't been fighting majors.

 

Certainly McDavid has been targeted as well, but Tippet did put Kassian on his line to help decrease the frequency of said infractions knowing full well that it wouldn't result in a complete cessation.

 

The real issue with the amount of cheapshots happening across the league is the horrific standard of officiating that the NHL seems comfortable allowing to continue. It's pathetic the amount of actual, legitimate infractions that are allowed to happen.

[NewbieCanuckFan]

13 minutes ago, mll said:

Pettersson is not an exception.  McDavid plays through plenty of abuse.  Hitchcock got mad last year but it didn't change anything.  

That’s because the Oilers suck from the net to the blueline.

[SergioMomesso]

So who is hurt on D now that we had to call up Brisebois and Chatfield?

[PhillipBlunt]

54 minutes ago, Squamfan said:

 

Green needs to pull a torts and rip the refs, and say if that 88 in Boston. 34, in Toronto, 97 Edmonton , those are penalties 

One coach doing it amounts to a fine. Coaches and players across the league need to address this together. It's at an all time low. Hell, if coaches or players screwed up at the frequency that the average NHL official did, they'd be out of the league.

[Zigmund.Palffy]

1 minute ago, SergioMomesso said:

So who is hurt on D now that we had to call up Brisebois and Chatfield?

Hughes and tanev out for season

Edited March 3, 2020 by WalkWithElias40