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mll Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, CptCanuck16 said: I honestly don't even care that much anymore. With a long furlough everyone is going to be rusty and it just won't be the same. The NHL should just start fresh with a new season early in September and call this one a wash. 2020/21 was never going to start in September whether they finish this season or not. Some owners don't even want next season to start without fans in the stands. It's now scheduled for 1 December per the CBA MOU. They projected revenue for this season at 4.8 billion. They are talking of losses in billions and don't even think revenue will reach 3.3 billion next season. Players share revenue 50-50 with owners. Their salaries are already around 65% of revenue so they have a considerable sum to pay back to achieve that 50-50 split. Playing those games allows to reduce some of the losses. Instead of escrow at 35% it could be closer to circa 28%. The NHL has to negotiate a new US TV deal. Going dark would likely hurt their negotiations. Several leagues are resuming and it's important for the NHL to not lose market shares. Also some of the local TV deal foresee penalties if the season is incomplete and teams don't reach a certain number of games. McKenzie painted a pretty dire financial situation for the league. It's not just about players/owners. Teams are furloughing staff or even laying them off. Closing the league has an impact on employment, tax income for government programs and unemployment. Some players think it's going to be one of the toughest to win. Rosters nearly all fully healthy and no momentum built. Everyone starts from the same point. Edited July 11, 2020 by mll 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddyguy Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, 10pavelbure96 said: As I said before. He would be surrounded by medical professionals and in a quarantined bubble. He is literally safer than any of us going to work and the grocery store. I have an 8 year old and a pregnant fiance at home and we both still go to work every day. Hamonic let his team down. It's much different if your child has underlying health concerns. The average person will likely fight off the virus but if you have respiratory issues like Hamonic's child does, your chances of dying increase dramatically. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Statement from Baertschi: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe-max Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Statement from Baertschi: Pity. Sven was my dark horse play-off hero. One of the few players that could have implemented high end skill down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: I really hoped we would see him don a Canucks sweater one last time. Maybe even somehow get into a game and make an impact. Guess it wasn’t meant to be. Good player for us though and seemed like a good guy. Yeah, but if they didn’t play him before I doubt they would now. Might as well stay at home with the family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Statement from Baertschi: Character guy. Too bad he couldn’t be around the boys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Slegr Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: UFA picked up by Oilers from Wings. I’m guessing he has no intention of renewing with Edmonton, and guessing Oilers regret that trade now. I just hope we don’t see the same thing happen with Toffoli and the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Heffy Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, Slegr said: UFA picked up by Oilers from Wings. I’m guessing he has no intention of renewing with Edmonton, and guessing Oilers regret that trade now. I just hope we don’t see the same thing happen with Toffoli and the Canucks. Bit of a difference considering Toffoli can earn himself a decent payday, while Green will be lucky to get offered a KHL contract regardless next year. Addition by subtraction for the Soilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 \This can't be counted as play-off experience. I have been a fan since the Canucks 82 run and played much Hockey. The big momentum shifts that take place when teams score will be completly gone. how about the big fight or great save, It is awesome to have hockey back but this will be so diffrent it will be a young mans game. Experience will be thrown out the window as it will be all new. And the fresh legs of the youth will show beyond anyones imagination! The older player especially larger players will not be sharp at all for this tourney. But welcome back Hockey! They mangaged to ruin 2 season by saving 1. How about if a star player or two or three get the virus. this is going to be fun at its best. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cory40 said: \This can't be counted as play-off experience. I have been a fan since the Canucks 82 run and played much Hockey. The big momentum shifts that take place when teams score will be completly gone. how about the big fight or great save, It is awesome to have hockey back but this will be so diffrent it will be a young mans game. Experience will be thrown out the window as it will be all new. And the fresh legs of the youth will show beyond anyones imagination! The older player especially larger players will not be sharp at all for this tourney. But welcome back Hockey! They mangaged to ruin 2 season by saving 1. How about if a star player or two or three get the virus. this is going to be fun at its best. They also got a new CBA with fewer games lost than any other negotiation during Bettman's tenure. This won't ruin 2 seasons any more than the previous issues caused by a bad commissioner refusing to negotiate like an adult. Edited July 12, 2020 by King Heffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted July 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2020 6 hours ago, 10pavelbure96 said: Travis hamonic just wants the summer off and is using his family and daughter as an excuse.. They are in a bubble with Medical professionals and will be following all proper quarantine protocols before returning to their families after the playoffs. Its literally safer to play in the playoffs than us regular folk going to work or the grocery store. Flames fans should be choked. 4 hours ago, 10pavelbure96 said: As I said before. He would be surrounded by medical professionals and in a quarantined bubble. He is literally safer than any of us going to work and the grocery store. I have an 8 year old and a pregnant fiance at home and we both still go to work every day. Hamonic let his team down. I'm sorry but you can't decide for someone on how they prioritize their family based on how you do it. That's their call to make, not yours. He's in a position to not have to work and maybe $$ isn't everything to everyone. My job ended when my boss got fed up with me insisting on protocol being followed in order to protect my son and father, who are both vulnerable with health issues. He said he didn't need a secretary any longer as he coughed, open mouth, walking by my desk. He'd just been to Italy. The new girl was willing to stay quiet ... new boss, wasn't going to risk it. But I'd rather starve than compromise my commitment to my family and his attitude was dangerous. "I don't have it" was his go to. How the hell did he know? To suggest he "just wants a summer off" because he put his family first is in really poor taste. Everyone is different and we have to remember that. Just because you do something doesn't mean others have to as well. That's rather unreasonable. I'm sure the fact that his family won't choke is reason for him to not sweat it if the fans are choked. He didn't let his family down. That's the most important thing here. We're all free to decide and this thing is nothing to take lightly. Some keep calm and carry on with fingers crossed and that's ok. Some make sure and take every action they can...and that's ok too. It's a very personal decision and each individual gets to decide what works for them. I'm starting to think this may be your M.O. Quote Lol I was clearly trolling with part of my post. 2 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingofsurrey Posted July 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: I'm sorry but you can't decide for someone on how they prioritize their family based on how you do it. That's their call to make, not yours. He's in a position to not have to work and maybe $$ isn't everything to everyone. My job ended when my boss got fed up with me insisting on protocol being followed in order to protect my son and father, who are both vulnerable with health issues. He said he didn't need a secretary any longer as he coughed, open mouth, walking by my desk. He'd just been to Italy. The new girl was willing to stay quiet ... new boss, wasn't going to risk it. But I'd rather starve than compromise my commitment to my family and his attitude was dangerous. "I don't have it" was his go to. How the hell did he know? To suggest he "just wants a summer off" because he put his family first is in really poor taste. Everyone is different and we have to remember that. Just because you do something doesn't mean others have to as well. That's rather unreasonable. I'm sure the fact that his family won't choke is reason for him to not sweat it if the fans are choked. He didn't let his family down. That's the most important thing here. We're all free to decide and this thing is nothing to take lightly. Some keep calm and carry on with fingers crossed and that's ok. Some make sure and take every action they can...and that's ok too. It's a very personal decision and each individual gets to decide what works for them. I'm starting to think this may be your M.O. Family first. 100% no way i would lace up for the playoffs if i had family members with undelying medical issues... Family first all day every day. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, King Heffy said: They also got a new CBA with fewer games lost than any other negotiation during Bettman's tenure. This won't ruin 2 seasons any more than the previous issues caused by a bad commissioner refusing to negotiate like an adult. Good point. Might as well enjoy the SC play-offs with-out the energy. They seriously should have just looked at October. but that won't be clear until we watch the product on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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10pavelbure96 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 3 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: I'm sorry but you can't decide for someone on how they prioritize their family based on how you do it. That's their call to make, not yours. He's in a position to not have to work and maybe $$ isn't everything to everyone. My job ended when my boss got fed up with me insisting on protocol being followed in order to protect my son and father, who are both vulnerable with health issues. He said he didn't need a secretary any longer as he coughed, open mouth, walking by my desk. He'd just been to Italy. The new girl was willing to stay quiet ... new boss, wasn't going to risk it. But I'd rather starve than compromise my commitment to my family and his attitude was dangerous. "I don't have it" was his go to. How the hell did he know? To suggest he "just wants a summer off" because he put his family first is in really poor taste. Everyone is different and we have to remember that. Just because you do something doesn't mean others have to as well. That's rather unreasonable. I'm sure the fact that his family won't choke is reason for him to not sweat it if the fans are choked. He didn't let his family down. That's the most important thing here. We're all free to decide and this thing is nothing to take lightly. Some keep calm and carry on with fingers crossed and that's ok. Some make sure and take every action they can...and that's ok too. It's a very personal decision and each individual gets to decide what works for them. I'm starting to think this may be your M.O. 2 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Family first. 100% no way i would lace up for the playoffs if i had family members with undelying medical issues... Family first all day every day. I put my family first as well. Like I said I have an 8 year old and a pregnant fiance. I just dont see how opting out puts your family first. The bubble is literally a safer environment than being at home and living your day to day life. Players that opt out just dont want to play and are using covid as a crutch. By that logic I guess I should quit my job to put my family first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pavelbure96 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 3 hours ago, cory40 said: \This can't be counted as play-off experience. I have been a fan since the Canucks 82 run and played much Hockey. The big momentum shifts that take place when teams score will be completly gone. how about the big fight or great save, It is awesome to have hockey back but this will be so diffrent it will be a young mans game. Experience will be thrown out the window as it will be all new. And the fresh legs of the youth will show beyond anyones imagination! The older player especially larger players will not be sharp at all for this tourney. But welcome back Hockey! They mangaged to ruin 2 season by saving 1. How about if a star player or two or three get the virus. this is going to be fun at its best. They already said regardless what happens they wont play next season without fans. So because of how the states is handling this it wouldn't have made a difference. I dont understand all the negativity surrounding this. There is lots of sports going on in europe. Props to the NHL for finding a way to make it work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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