Virtanen showing immaturity once again.

[HockeyHarry]

I hope at lest Jake was safe clubbing and wore protection 

[Pears]

7 minutes ago, coho8888 said:

Not sure you can make that claim.  Are we passionate fans?  Sure.  Any more so than Montreal or Toronto?  Hard to say.  I generally find the fan base here to be supportive of its players unless that player does something to lose their support.  Pretty cut and dry.  Normally I really dont care what a player does in his own personal time.  When I see them away from the game, I’m not one to run up to them to ask for an autograph.  I generally leave them alone.  But again this is a pandemic we are in.  Not the time to be clubbing no matter who you are.

If someone like Dr. Bonnie Henry says clubs are allowed to be open, then they’re allowed to be open. He isn’t breaking any laws here. 

[coho8888]

2 minutes ago, Pears said:

If someone like Dr. Bonnie Henry says clubs are allowed to be open, then they’re allowed to be open. He isn’t breaking any laws here. 

Bonnie Henry never allowed clubs to open.  These clubs are skirting the law by repurposing themselves as restaurants/pubs.  Clubbing activities are still going on.  I predict that Brandis won’t be the only place to be shut down.

[Pears]

3 minutes ago, coho8888 said:

Bonnie Henry never allowed clubs to open.  These clubs are skirting the law by repurposing themselves as restaurants/pubs.  Clubbing activities are still going on.  I predict that Brandis won’t be the only place to be shut down.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/british-columbia/article-no-dance-floor-but-dancing-by-yourself-is-fine-as-bc-lifts/

[coho8888]

2 minutes ago, Pears said:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/british-columbia/article-no-dance-floor-but-dancing-by-yourself-is-fine-as-bc-lifts/

The key word there is “allowed to open as lounges” not as nightclubs.  A place where a small group can go and have drinks.  Clubbing is entirely different.  If you watched the video, there was more tan just sitting around having drinks.

[guntrix]

27 minutes ago, Pears said:

If someone like Dr. Bonnie Henry says clubs are allowed to be open, then they’re allowed to be open. He isn’t breaking any laws here. 

I don’t think you understand what re-opening a league during the pandemic entails. In contact sports, it takes a consolidated effort from all players, coaches, management and staff across the league to ensure that teams are not put at risk. It’s not just about following established pandemic measures. 
 

Look up what happened to Dynamo Dresden, Grand Canyon Basketball team, LSU, Cruz Azul, the Utah Jazz and the NBA fiasco, etc. 

 

In the EPL, there was an entire discussion on shutting whole teams down for just one infection. The MLS meanwhile is supposed to host a 26-team tightly-controlled “bubble” tournament all held in Florida, yet a few players from FC Dallas tested positive yesterday so that’s on the line. 
 

It only takes one infection to quarantine an entire team, and while thankfully no re-start has been shut down, it will probably only take one team-to-team transmission to ruin an entire tournament. 
 

And while Virtanen’s pre-game party trips were usually only a detriment to his own performance and fitness, his actions now put not only his teammates at risk, but also players and staff across the league. All we ask is a little maturity and professionalism during a pandemic, if only because - as a fan - I don’t want the antics of one person to ruin it for players and fans alike. 

Edited July 2, 2020 by guntrix

[King Heffy]

I'd obviously prefer if he wasn't going clubbing, but to think he's the only one in the league doing so is being willfully ignorant.  It's not a good decision but he didn't break any laws or league rules, so ultimately it's up to the team regarding how to handle this.  I suspect Greener will make him regret it once camp opens.

[GhostsOf1994]

5 hours ago, cuporbust said:

There is a reason he is constantly singled out. 

Because some people are jealous of his success and life path thus far?

3 hours ago, Pears said:

Because they are allowed to. If they weren’t they wouldn’t have been allowed to reopen. Simple. I don’t see the uproar about Hughes going out to eat because he doesn’t cook. Vancouver is literally the only city who treats its hockey players like this.

Thank you Pears.

 

How many Vegas golden knights players have been to the script clubs in that city?

 

Anonymity at it's finest.

[Tre Mac]

He"ll be rightfully admonished by the team, he should get daily reports from Reid Boucher on what it's like playing in Russia and maybe that will wake his ass up.  Ditch your 'worse crew ever' entourage and act like a professional athlete or you just might not be one for long.

[canuktravella]

tre mac and guntrix no offense but  people have lives and can do as they please  they arent here to be your lil slaves all these covid people spewing  rules and stuff going to a bar is no different than going to a grocery store or restaurant. If it wasnt safe they wouldnt be open we arent the states where covid is outta control id worry more about  alaskans vacationing in bc than a kid having a brew at a bar  stop acting like control freaks its pathetic. 

[komodo0921]

10 hours ago, Silky mitts said:

Nothing wrong with this at all. The club is under restrictions, this is the same as going to a cactus club. 

 

Dr.Bonnie Henry says it's ok its ok,

Many people forget that a lot of these players are young adults.

Having social lives is a very big deal for them.

Our governing body has said it's ok and I'm good with it.

The team is exercising extreme caution when it comes to addressing the virus. He is going to be tested before he joins the team.

Hockey players are in extremely good health these days.

As long as protocols are followed, in the event he or any other player gets it, they should emerge from it without problems.

 

[Ghostsof1915]

I think there's also a double standard here. 

Kesler was pretty notorious for womanizing, and clubbing. ( I have co-workers who witnessed this), yet no one bashed him. 

Meanwhile, Cody Hodgson was teased by Kesler for being so straight laced. 

 

A lot of fans were willing to overlook Kassian's issues, even when it was threatening his life and career. 

 

Jake seems to be thriving when Miller got here. And JT has been through the same things that Jake has. Jake hasn't been demanding, he has been a good teammate 

since the team drafted him. I think fans put him under the microscope because of his draft position. 

[D-Money]

On the one hand, part of me is saying he is irresponsible, and should just lay low for a while.

 

However, he’s young, single, millionaire athlete, who is about to be enclosed in a bubble in downtown Edmonton for weeks. I can see why he might throw caution to the wind a couple of times before that. And I’m sure there are many young NHL-ers around the league doing the same or similar (at least Vancouver is less risky than most cities). 

 

One thing that concerns me about Jake is not that he does what he does, but that he continually gets caught red-handed. 
 

Edited July 2, 2020 by D-Money

[Ghostsof1915]

3 minutes ago, D-Money said:

On the one hand, part of me is saying he is irresponsible, and should just lay low for a while.

 

However, he’s young, single, millionaire athlete, who is about to be enclosed in a bubble in downtown Edmonton for weeks. I can see why he might throw caution to the wind a couple of times before that. And I’m sure there are many young NHL-ers around the league doing the same or similar (at least Vancouver is less risky than most cities). 

 

One thing that concerns me about Jake is not that he does what he does, but that he continually gets caught red-handed. 
 

He's a nice guy, but I don't think he's a rocket scientist. 

[Drakrami]

lol the lack of basic medical knowledge and nonsense posts on here, how is this not important? Virtanen can easily be inflected by COVID19, be an asymptomatic spreader and infect the whole team. As his Canucks teammate, do you want to practice with a guy who just partied at a nightclub a few days ago? 

 

 

[RecklessReilly]

23 year old walks into a bar...... should we cancel him?

[-DLC-]

Those comparing "going out to eat" or grocery shop with clubbing are missing the point.  We HAVE to eat to sustain ourselves...no one needs to club.

 

I get it, it's tough....I didn't see my kids for months during one of the toughest periods of my life.   But we all are making sacrifices and Jake is showing immaturity and a bit of selfishness here.  With that, the team'll let him know and he'll likely be in a bit of a doghouse for awhile....self inflicted.  For a guy who's had to battle for ice time, this doesn't fare well in that.  No "I" in team has to be the mentality.

 

We all want to do things but it's about showing self restraint in order to protect others rather than focusing and acting on self needs and wants.

 

If it was a situation where people were social distancing and following the rules I'd feel differently.  But with reports that he/they weren't, it's a problem for his "bubble".  Dr. Bonnie also says we're to commit to a bubble with a pact to remain vigilant and if his bubble is a club crew then the hockey team likely won't be part of it?  

 

These aren't normal times and "being 23" does not absolve you from commitments as an athlete on a team that likely has expectations to keep everyone safe, first and foremost.  Sacrifices that are made are rewarded with hefty pay cheques so it's a matter of balance.

 

Not a big deal in the best of times, but these are the worst of times.  We're all making sacrifices in order to get through this thing as unscathed as possible.  Right now, we're doing well here for a reason....we're following the guidelines set out by health professionals.  As we start to "open things up" it's important to still follow them...as they are directing us to.  Masks when social distancing isn't possible is what I understand.  What happens in Celebrities may not stay in Celebrities....just ask Vegas how that's going.

 

[hlinkas wrister]

18 minutes ago, Drakrami said:

lol the lack of basic medical knowledge and nonsense posts on here, how is this not important? Virtanen can easily be inflected by COVID19, be an asymptomatic spreader and infect the whole team. As his Canucks teammate, do you want to practice with a guy who just partied at a nightclub a few days ago? 

 

 

I'm pretty sure every member of the team will be tested before they enter the bubble when training camp starts. 

[-DLC-]

1 hour ago, canuktravella said:

tre mac and guntrix no offense but  people have lives and can do as they please  they arent here to be your lil slaves all these covid people spewing  rules and stuff going to a bar is no different than going to a grocery store or restaurant. If it wasnt safe they wouldnt be open we arent the states where covid is outta control id worry more about  alaskans vacationing in bc than a kid having a brew at a bar  stop acting like control freaks its pathetic. 

They can "do as they please"...but it may come with consequences for their actions.

 

It's is different than a grocery store...which provides basic "needs".   

 

We will quickly become the States if we start acting like them.  There's a reason we're doing well....it's not magic fairy dust.  Hold the line.

[DeNiro]

24 minutes ago, Drakrami said:

lol the lack of basic medical knowledge and nonsense posts on here, how is this not important? Virtanen can easily be inflected by COVID19, be an asymptomatic spreader and infect the whole team. As his Canucks teammate, do you want to practice with a guy who just partied at a nightclub a few days ago? 

 

 

If you think that no other young single players are going out to bars or clubs during this time you are sadly mistaken.

 

People are jumping on him because of his past and nothing else. If this were Boeser or Hughes no one would even bat an eye. That’s where the hypocrisy comes in.

 

He will be tested well before he comes in contact with teammates. If he got infected well then he will quarantine for two weeks like any one else. 
 

I guess we should assume every player that tests positive for Covid was being irresponsible too.