(Discussion) How could we entice Seattle to take Eriksson?

[JustABandwagoner]

1 minute ago, BoKnows said:

Louis contract isn't that bad.  

BUT why should seattle help u? 

[BigTramFan]

If they took Eriksson, then Seattle don't get the player they would have picked, plus they are taking on 1-year of a $6m contract (with $4m payable).

 

I think they would want the player they were going to pick anyway (Demko?) plus a 1st round pick (or two 2nd round picks) for taking on Loui.

 

So VAN gives up: Eriksson + Demko + 1st round pick

 

If I was Seattle, I would probably do this deal. The LE contract is not going to affect you that much. You still get a good young goalie and a 1st round pick. LE can still play on your roster as an expensive 3rd line winger with PK duties.

 

Not sure if JB would do the deal. It depends on whether he can find a way to make the roster fit under the cap for the next 2 seasons.

[drummer4now]

 

https://streamable.com/f0s53a

 

 

Loui Eriksson everybody. 

Edited August 6, 2020 by drummer4now

[IBatch]

It cost TO a first for one year so that’s what they would want.   I do think they won’t be getting as many deals as Vegas made so it would probably let our team keep our first priority and give up whomever we feel is second.    Lind maybe...that said who knows what things will look like then.   We can survive the 3 million or so in cap space LE is costing us at the moment - that’s about what a vet of his caliber is currently worth.   Beagle type money - and he plays more minutes (LE)...

 

Edit:  My preference is we keep our picks and prospects and avoid buy-outs and cap dumps like the plague.  We aren’t doing ourselves a service by trying to shoe horn yet another expensive UFA vet into our lineup, especially when the cost will be prospects and picks - which is exactly what we will need to balance the books starting after next season...and even this season coming up to a certain degree.     Let TT walk do a few minor depth tweaks and we will be fine for next season.  After that money comes off for the big raises and we will really need our prospects to step up.   Then use Luongo and LEs money to plug holes with guys like TT and Myers, with an eye of what’s left or new and coming up too. 

Edited August 6, 2020 by IBatch

[5Fivehole0]

On 8/5/2020 at 10:35 AM, VegasCanuck said:

We really want Eriksson gone before NEXT summer, need a solution to him before the start of the next season.

 

For the expansion draft, I think Benning will make a deal with Seattle for a draft pick, in exchange for taking the player we want them to take.

 

I think that's a bad idea. Just let them take who they take and deal with it. Everyone else loses a player too.

 

Expose Gaudette, Demko, Motte, Beagle, Roussel, Virtanen, Benn, Fantenberg, Stetcher, and/or Pearson

 

Protect your core and make them make a tough choice.

Edited August 7, 2020 by 5Fivehole0

[komodo0921]

I was looking for information on expansion draft rules and came across a Fansided article from 7 months ago that said Petey was exempt from the draft.

Is this accurate?

[qwijibo]

3 hours ago, komodo0921 said:

I was looking for information on expansion draft rules and came across a Fansided article from 7 months ago that said Petey was exempt from the draft.

Is this accurate?

According to Cap Friendly Pettersson requires protection. Hughes is still showing as exempt though 

[komodo0921]

6 hours ago, qwijibo said:

According to Cap Friendly Pettersson requires protection. Hughes is still showing as exempt though 

That's what I thought.

Wishful thinking.

[Me_]

On 8/4/2020 at 11:27 PM, DontMessMe said:

Give them Podkolzin. Thats the only way and we are NOT doing that. 

That’s a Tkachuck-type player hounding Pettersson for the rest of his career.

 

Better on our side.

[Me_]

On 8/6/2020 at 4:17 AM, drummer4now said:

 

https://streamable.com/f0s53a

 

 

Loui Eriksson everybody. 

He’s a playoff defensive performer that’s for sure.

 

The game may be too slow for him though...

It’s in the eyes...

 

Edited August 9, 2020 by Me_

[JustABandwagoner]

On 8/6/2020 at 9:56 PM, 5Fivehole0 said:

I think that's a bad idea. Just let them take who they take and deal with it. Everyone else loses a player too.

 

Expose Gaudette, Demko, Motte, Beagle, Roussel, Virtanen, Benn, Fantenberg, Stetcher, and/or Pearson

 

Protect your core and make them make a tough choice.

Exposing Demko is stupid. I rather just trade Demko for a 3rd rd pick. Better to get something than nothing 

Edited August 9, 2020 by DontMessMe

[5Fivehole0]

2 hours ago, DontMessMe said:

Exposing Demko is stupid. I rather just trade Demko for a 3rd rd pick. Better to get something than nothing 

Okay so lose Demko and then another guy.

It's an expansion draft. You lose something for nothing. Demko might be that something, he might not

[JustABandwagoner]

16 hours ago, 5Fivehole0 said:

Okay so lose Demko and then another guy.

It's an expansion draft. You lose something for nothing. Demko might be that something, he might not

Def. Its the QUALITY/POTENTIAL of a guy you are losing. Demko has potential. I rather lose someone with less potential. Its like asking u have to lose money would u rather lose $100, or $50. 

[5Fivehole0]

9 hours ago, DontMessMe said:

Def. Its the QUALITY/POTENTIAL of a guy you are losing. Demko has potential. I rather lose someone with less potential. Its like asking u have to lose money would u rather lose $100, or $50. 

See CBJ for how that train of thought works. Traded their 1st 2019 2nd William Karlson and David Clarkson*I.R. all so VGK wouldn't take Korpisalo or Josh Anderson.... So they took Tuch.

[mll]

Just now, 5Fivehole0 said:

See CBJ for how that train of thought works. Traded their 1st 2019 2nd William Karlson and David Clarkson*I.R. all so VGK wouldn't take Korpisalo or Josh Anderson.... So they took Tuch.

Tuch was a Wild.  Minnesota made an arrangement with Vegas for them to take Tuch and Haula in exchange for leaving Dumba alone.  They could use both now.  Minnesota should have just protected 4Ds and 4Fs - Niederreiter, Granlund, Pominville, Zucker, Coyle are not even with the team anymore.

[JustABandwagoner]

11 hours ago, 5Fivehole0 said:

See CBJ for how that train of thought works. Traded their 1st 2019 2nd William Karlson and David Clarkson*I.R. all so VGK wouldn't take Korpisalo or Josh Anderson.... So they took Tuch.

Did I ever say to make a deal with seattle??????? Benning is not exposing demko end of story. Demko is as good as gone. 

[5Fivehole0]

On 8/9/2020 at 11:42 PM, mll said:

Tuch was a Wild.  Minnesota made an arrangement with Vegas for them to take Tuch and Haula in exchange for leaving Dumba alone.  They could use both now.  Minnesota should have just protected 4Ds and 4Fs - Niederreiter, Granlund, Pominville, Zucker, Coyle are not even with the team anymore.

Ah, looked it up.

 

1st Clarkson 2019 2nd. So they'd take Wild Bill and not Josh Anderson. Still a bad deal and probably what it would cost to keep Demko

[IBatch]

On 8/6/2020 at 12:53 AM, BigTramFan said:

If they took Eriksson, then Seattle don't get the player they would have picked, plus they are taking on 1-year of a $6m contract (with $4m payable).

 

I think they would want the player they were going to pick anyway (Demko?) plus a 1st round pick (or two 2nd round picks) for taking on Loui.

 

So VAN gives up: Eriksson + Demko + 1st round pick

 

If I was Seattle, I would probably do this deal. The LE contract is not going to affect you that much. You still get a good young goalie and a 1st round pick. LE can still play on your roster as an expensive 3rd line winger with PK duties.

 

Not sure if JB would do the deal. It depends on whether he can find a way to make the roster fit under the cap for the next 2 seasons.

The only troubles we might have won’t be this offseason- it will be next one depending on how great EP and QHs played.   Signing TT would be a huge mistake IMO, we’d be using up cap space that sure we could swing this year with some movement - but quite likely will need next off-season.   Sutter and Pearson won’t be re-signed.   That money will all go to the wonder kids.   Ferland on Robidas/Pronger island is very likely - which should be enough to work with for those two.  Around 11.5 ....  well maybe not actually.   Bears and spooners money too.   So 15-16.   We will need every cent and have to rely on Podz, Lind and Hogs to fill in.  

Edler and Tanev should be flat cap going forward.    Maybe even a little back.  We are solid there.   What we are going to lose when these guys get paid is depth (like every other team has in the past going through the same things).   And relying on draft picks making the show or cheap older vets like Perry and Thornton recently- filling holes.   
 

Losing in this way is a complete loss.   LE should be able to keep it up for two more years playing on the 2-4th line and PKing.   Might as well use him right until he’s done.    The actual cap space lost is in the 3-4 range that’s it for a vet playing that caliber of play.   Hardly worth a first for one year.   As far as Demko goes I’ve made my peace with good chance he’s going to Seattle as our sacrifice.   Not hard to find a cheap vet back-up.   We are about to play against one in St Louis (2 million new contract that’s it), once we run Binnington out of town ha ha in Allen.   Chances are slim Demko will win the number one spot ...and is definitely not ready for it yet with Markstrom. 

[IBatch]

19 hours ago, DontMessMe said:

Did I ever say to make a deal with seattle??????? Benning is not exposing demko end of story. Demko is as good as gone. 

Who pray tell, is going to trade for Demko and then use their protection spot on him?  Detroit does seem possible.  Although they do have two goalies they are still high on in their system - one who’s maybe two years behind Demko.    Im not so sure myself.  I like the idea that we can trade him - and definitely would have several interested parties if it wasn’t for the ED.   But history has shown that goalies even with excellent back-up stats over .920 rarely get much of anything.   Darling, Lack, Nilsson, Talbots of the world.  
 

If we got a second back I’d be stoked.   That said i think he’s worth keeping for the season and hoping his stock goes up .... in the slim chance he’s absolutely lights out and wins the number one spot on our team then we would have the option to dangle Markstrom instead (assuming he doesn’t have a NMC) Let them fight it out.   I’m also not opposed to finding a Allen/Elliot quality back-up to split time with Demko as a cheaper duo option as well.   Doubt the team does that though. 

[JustABandwagoner]

9 hours ago, IBatch said:

Who pray tell, is going to trade for Demko and then use their protection spot on him?  Detroit does seem possible.  Although they do have two goalies they are still high on in their system - one who’s maybe two years behind Demko.    Im not so sure myself.  I like the idea that we can trade him - and definitely would have several interested parties if it wasn’t for the ED.   But history has shown that goalies even with excellent back-up stats over .920 rarely get much of anything.   Darling, Lack, Nilsson, Talbots of the world.  
 

If we got a second back I’d be stoked.   That said i think he’s worth keeping for the season and hoping his stock goes up .... in the slim chance he’s absolutely lights out and wins the number one spot on our team then we would have the option to dangle Markstrom instead (assuming he doesn’t have a NMC) Let them fight it out.   I’m also not opposed to finding a Allen/Elliot quality back-up to split time with Demko as a cheaper duo option as well.   Doubt the team does that though. 

If EDM wasnt in our division i would be down to send him to edm. they need a goalie. but too risky