Biff Tannen Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, nuckin_futz said: You should post more often. My instinct is to read that in a sarcastic tone, but I'm gonna give you the benefit of doubt and assume it's sincere. TBF I usually intend to post stuff on the GDT but then I get too distracted by the hockey. Not much of a problem tonight. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: - Abolish police unions - End qualified immunity - Stop throwing people in jail for victimless crimes (weed possession) - Stop encouraging single motherhood and fatherlessness via welfare state programs This $&!# is so easy, but nobody wants to take the necessary steps to actually solve the issue (Spoiler alert: They don't actually care). People have been so brainwashed into believing the "left vs right" dichotomy that they fail to see how these policies work in conjunction with each other to keep people and communities buried. But y'know, cancelling hockey should solve the issue. - police unions show representation, not indemnity - qualified immunity allows protection for civil liability in cases where an officer acts in good faith and not have to worry about losing his house in cases where he or she was later found to have acted incorrectly. Who would want this job if they have to worry about this? - in Canada, no one goes to jail for weed (Not sure about certain states) - You hit the he nail on the head with this one. Yes, family support and having both parents in the child’s life is vital. State support programs key in encouraging and supporting rather than taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, gurn said: Do blacks commit more crime, or are they charged more often and then convicted more often? That poster said he was leaving, I'd didn't see anyone suspend him. did you see the link he posted? weird comparison., but please feel free to protest this as well. Where did you get those stats? Do black folk commit more crime or do they just get charged and convicted more? You have mentioned the 189 mill on multiple occasions but have yet to post a link, and two others have posted evidence that contradicts you. Was it even there, before the cops put it there? I think it was most likely there, but evidence is planted often enough to cause doubt. So, which innocent lives did this guy put at risk? I presume those kids were and still are alive, from when the dude left them in the car. Strange, I only see you in off topic threads, like these anyway. You still here, I thought you were leaving? One being a racist does not mean the other isn't. As others have pointed out, that graph isn't taking population colour demographics into account. True, a lot of damage is done by "white" collar crime. I really, really thought you were out of here? I'm sorry, I think you may have confused me with another poster or maybe cdc is buggy. I made no claims of leaving or anything like that? @redhdlois found the charity i couldn't remember the name. I don't have the link, but this is what was found. donations on the Black Lives Matter website go directly to a company called ActBlue Charities, which is the Democratic Party’s leading online donor platform. https://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2018/08/what-hell-actblue-and-why-it-showing-so-many-democratic-candidates-campaign/ Edited August 28, 2020 by GhostsOf1994 link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said: My instinct is to read that in a sarcastic tone, but I'm gonna give you the benefit of doubt and assume it's sincere. TBF I usually intend to post stuff on the GDT but then I get too distracted by the hockey. Not much of a problem tonight. No that was 100% sincere. I enjoy a good dry wit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, GhostsOf1994 said: I Never said that Qwags, you said they have evolved as a movement. Her comments are from july 2020. Is this not hate speech propagating divide between white and black culture? If this were say, a conservative white male saying blacks are subhuman. He'd be roasted alive as he should be. Why is it acceptable for a equal rights group founder, who sets chapter guidelines, a leader in the community to make blatantly racist comments? What’s good for the goose should be good for the gander. NBA player Harrell calling Doncic bitch ass white boy the other day, Al Sharpton talking about Greek homos, Jesse Jackson calling N.Y hymie town, Trayvon Martin’s friend on the stand saying creepy ass cracker etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: No 50/50 tonight? Nope, they're keeping it open until game 3. should be quite the jackpot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Just now, mayor MCcheese said: More white people are killed by police than black. In absolute numbers yes, but that ignores population demographics, which are kinda important. It would be like saying you only find as many covid cases because you test more than anyone and simultaneously insisting people only use case mortality rate instead of population. I mean how dumb would that be? Oh hang on... never mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBossy Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Just now, GhostsOf1994 said: I'm sorry, I think you may have confused me with another poster or maybe cdc is buggy. I made no claims of leaving or anything like that? @redhdlois found the charity i couldn't remember the name. I don't have the link, but this is what was found. donations on the Black Lives Matter website go directly to a company called ActBlue Charities, which is the Democratic Party’s leading online donor platform. https://www.statesman.com/news/20200616/fact-check-do-donations-to-black-lives-matter-go-to-lsquodemocrat-super-pacrsquo By the way i used bing to search this time as @redhdlois didn't like me using google - do a little research before quoting an instagram story please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Chickenspear said: Nope, they're keeping it open until game 3. should be quite the jackpot. That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, gurn said: He brought those kids to that location, got out of the car without the knife and left those kids alive. Seems unlikely he would then decide to harm those kids, while the cops were there, at least to me. Police are responding in the moment, and always to a bad situation. It's easy for us to talk about it from the comfort of our homes. It's going to be a lose-lose situation for the policing in the States. No sane man or woman would want to be a cop down there, and their problem is that they have too many insane officers on duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC420 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I don't what to believe these days, if there is a problem with racial injustice then im all for doing something to help prevent it and would like to support people trying to stop it, but I also believe in spreading joy and happiness. Even during hard times we cant lose our desire to laugh, to love and be happy and do the things that make us happy. If someone elses happiness offends or upsets you then you are not a nice person. I have dealt with depression all my life, back in high school I used to resent other kids who were happier than me simply because they were happy and I wasn't, I wanted them to feel the same way I do and get upset about the same things that made me upset. That was selfish and heartless of me to think that way. I still struggle with trying to be happy but I have taught myself to not resent another persons happiness, finding and pursuing the things that make us happy is the what makes life worth living and I encourage anyone to do just that and I would never want to take away something that makes another person happy. Hockey and sports in general spread a lot of joy and happiness around our country and the world, by refusing to play you are refusing to spread joy and happiness. In these times we need things like sports to bring us together, to get us all cheering together and celebrating something that we can all get excited for. I just finished a 10 hour day in the warehouse of a local department store helping ensure my community has face masks, sanitizer, toilet paper and other necessities and I really wanted to come home, sit down with my family and enjoy one of the few things that make me happy, watching my Vancouver Canucks. I don't think the way to fix bad things should include taking away good things. Maybe I am wrong, maybe im out of touch, I don't know. I can only speak for myself and I don't think that cancelling things that make people happy will make our society a happier place. I hope you all stay safe and stay happy during these difficult times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, MikeBossy said: https://www.statesman.com/news/20200616/fact-check-do-donations-to-black-lives-matter-go-to-lsquodemocrat-super-pacrsquo By the way i used bing to search this time as @redhdlois didn't like me using google - do a little research before quoting an instagram story please What i was referencing was a chart i saw in a new clip that actblue has funneled almost 500 million in donations to several prominent dems. The top 4 were non white individuals with bernie alleged to have gotten 189$ mil The graphic shown was from vox.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey40 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, Plsdontdoit said: They better not do back to back Maybe just like in game 2 Vegas won’t show up for the back to back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I haven't heard many people talking about the fact that the jails in the States are for-profit privatized institutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) As this discussion continues , and I take it all in, there is definitely some material I am finding that is making me question this more . This article is helping me understand a bit better the side of the story that suggests what police procedures actually are , and that they were not followed . "Former police officers share important truths regarding shooting of Jacob Blake - Upworthy" https://www.upworthy.com/former-police-officers-weigh-in-on-jacob-blake-shooting Edited August 28, 2020 by cuporbust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: I haven't heard many people talking about the fact that the jails in the States are for-profit privatized institutions. Only 8.2% are privately owned and for profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustRich Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) The USA needs to halt Nixon's failed "War on Drugs". Stop locking people up for petty possession crimes, taking parents away from their children, flooding the private owned profit prison system and giving people permanent records that don't allow them to get a job or even vote when they get out. It breeds recidivism and forces people into a continuous spiral of crime to get by. We are pretty lucky to be in Canada, but the problem of systemic racism has always been here as well. I've worked very closely with the local indigenous community and generational trauma is a real thing and is passed down. The last residential school in BC was shut down in the 1990s and is not as far removed as people think. I'm a white guy, and I lived in northern China and experienced racism (albeit a small amount) myself. A world with more compassion, more empathy, and more understanding seems like a dream right now. Best one can do is practice this personally. Treat others as you would want to be treated, and don't be a dick. The world could use a little more DMT. Just saying. Edited August 28, 2020 by FilthyRich . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, GhostsOf1994 said: What i was referencing was a chart i saw in a new clip that actblue has funneled almost 500 million in donations to several prominent dems. The top 4 were non white individuals with bernie alleged to have gotten 189$ mil The graphic shown was from vox.com Those numbers alone should have set off your BS meter. $189 million dollars to Bernie Sanders is so far beyond any reasonable amount it should be dismissed at first glance. It's like if I told you the Canucks were going to sign Petey to a Kajillion dollar contract. Would you say 'wait a second' or would you say 'good for Petey, he deserves it'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBossy Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, mayor MCcheese said: More w More white people are killed by police than black. Ummmmm..... https://www.statista.com/statistics/1123070/police-shootings-rate-ethnicity-us/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Most militarized police in the world, in most violent and crime ridden western nation and most armed nation on the planet. Police kills people at higher rate than other countries, say it ain’t so, I am shocked! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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