King Heffy Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Remember when everyone wanted him back for Lu. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I wonder if they'd have any interest in Sutter with 50% retention? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mll Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Robert Long said: I wonder if they'd have any interest in Sutter with 50% retention? It was a cap saving move. Adding Sutter at 50% brings them back to their starting point. https://www.dkpittsburghsports.com/article/penguins-nick-bjugstad-trade-news-conditional-draft-pick-salary-contract-minnesota-wild-tlh Rutherford still expects the trade to be a cap space-saving move. “When you look at where the cap is today, we’re like a lot of teams," Rutherford told Dave Molinari of the trade. "We have to make some moves in order to be cap-compliant, so you look at different things and this is one of the players we had a chance to move. We’re happy we could move him to Minnesota. It’s his home. These are the kind of things that a number of teams are going to have to do.” Given some of the internal third-line center options like Sam Lafferty or Jared McCann (both of which are restricted free agents), it's possible that the sum of the retained salary plus the cap hit of Bjugstad's replacement will still be lower than Bjugstad's $4.1 million cap hit, which makes this a move to be cap-compliant. "There’s nothing out of our control now that would put us over the cap," Rutherford added. "Up until this point, it was going to be be hard to be cap-compliant. This takes a little bit of pressure off. It doesn’t necessarily put us in a position to do all the things that we want to do, but at least it takes the pressure off, that we know we can control whether we are cap-compliant.” Edited September 12, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Robert Long said: I wonder if they'd have any interest in Sutter with 50% retention? If only they would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreanHockeyFan Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, Robert Long said: I wonder if they'd have any interest in Sutter with 50% retention? No way. Eriksson with no salary retention makes more sense. Everyone knows that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) For a conditional 7th? Crikey. Edited September 12, 2020 by Ghostsof1915 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Remember when we were drooling over this kid?! Hoping for him in the Loui deal?... yah. Glad we got Marky lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, 70seven said: Remember when we were drooling over this kid?! Hoping for him in the Loui deal?... yah. Glad we got Marky lol I mean, it's not really easy to predict the injury trajectory he's had. Dude seemed like the full package- 6'6, right-handed center who could skate well enough and put up great college seasons. Got picked 19 OA in a draft with what was considered a very deep 1st round. And it's not like he's a bust in the traditional sense, he's put up 40 and 49 point seasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Wow, I really wanted this guy back when he was a rookie. Career kind of fell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I recall Gillis chasing hard for him while trying to offer the Panthers Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Teemu Selänne said: I mean, it's not really easy to predict the injury trajectory he's had. Dude seemed like the full package- 6'6, right-handed center who could skate well enough and put up great college seasons. Got picked 19 OA in a draft with what was considered a very deep 1st round. And it's not like he's a bust in the traditional sense, he's put up 40 and 49 point seasons. Oh He’s the piece I wanted that deal fo sho lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I feel like more information will trickle out. This is a very strange trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Conditional 7th for Nick Bjugstad? Ins't Nick Bjugstad supposed to be a top a high Top 9 forward? Edited September 12, 2020 by iinatcc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Man, shows you the value of cap space in a flat cap. At 50% retained could only get a conditional 7th. Haven't seen him play in a long time but that seems like a good player for 2.4M. Makes me worried what it will take to clear one of the players we would like to without retention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Maybe Loui will make sense to some team since the cash outlay is minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Stop gap until Eriksson Ek can take over top 6 center minutes full time. Or at least a safety blanket if he can't do it next season. Kinda weird Pittsburgh didn't get a little more for him. Given they also retained some cap. Nature of a cap dump though I guess. Good value trade for Minnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 13 hours ago, mll said: It was a cap saving move. Adding Sutter at 50% brings them back to their starting point. https://www.dkpittsburghsports.com/article/penguins-nick-bjugstad-trade-news-conditional-draft-pick-salary-contract-minnesota-wild-tlh Rutherford still expects the trade to be a cap space-saving move. “When you look at where the cap is today, we’re like a lot of teams," Rutherford told Dave Molinari of the trade. "We have to make some moves in order to be cap-compliant, so you look at different things and this is one of the players we had a chance to move. We’re happy we could move him to Minnesota. It’s his home. These are the kind of things that a number of teams are going to have to do.” Given some of the internal third-line center options like Sam Lafferty or Jared McCann (both of which are restricted free agents), it's possible that the sum of the retained salary plus the cap hit of Bjugstad's replacement will still be lower than Bjugstad's $4.1 million cap hit, which makes this a move to be cap-compliant. "There’s nothing out of our control now that would put us over the cap," Rutherford added. "Up until this point, it was going to be be hard to be cap-compliant. This takes a little bit of pressure off. It doesn’t necessarily put us in a position to do all the things that we want to do, but at least it takes the pressure off, that we know we can control whether we are cap-compliant.” I was thinking more for cheap C depth, they really don't have much, particularly if McCann is gone too. There's rumours about Letang being moved as well so just a thought. Probably too hopeful ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 11 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: For a conditional 7th? Crikey. this kind of sets the market for a number of trades. The "condimental pick" will be this offseason buzzword. But if we could shed some of our guys this way that would be fantastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, Robert Long said: I was thinking more for cheap C depth, they really don't have much, particularly if McCann is gone too. There's rumours about Letang being moved as well so just a thought. Probably too hopeful ' Lafferty was not even an 800K cap hit - sounds like he could be playing C3 per the article. It keeps them below what they would have spent keeping Bjugstad as C3. McCann was 1.25M but could earn more in arbitration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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