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Even if the team that trades for him buys him out, it won't be worth it for them:

 

$1.6M in real cash overall and 1.7M cap and 0.8M cap over the next two seasons.

 

Negotiating rights are worth 4th round picks or worse historically. I don't think a team sees the value there unless for some reason a team like Colorado thinks it's vital they get the first shot at signing him. And even then they'd probably offer a better pick instead of agreeing to take back money.

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I think a team like Carolina could be interested but they would want us to take Reimer back in that deal. Assuming Markstrom could be signed for $6M this would not cost them that much cap space. Markstrom would be paid $2.6M more than Reimer, Baertschi with 25% retained and buried in the minors would be about a $1.5M cap hit and the end result would be about a $4.1M cap added to Carolina. Personally, I think that would be a deal Carolina would consider assuming they believe Markstrom would sign with them and for $6M or less. Not sure Reimer is a goalie I would want to share duties with Demko though.........

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I think Marky's rights are worth a 4th or 5th right now and a 5th or 6th next week as FA season gets closer. UFA-to-be Edmunson's rights were traded for a 5th this week, for example.

 

So a combo of Baer (-25) + Marky for like..... a conditional 7th or an extremely low level prospect/depth player if there's a team that wants to take a chance on Baer, maybe.

 

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1 hour ago, Pr3mo said:

Do you think Markstroms negotiating rights could be packaged with Baerstchi at maybe 25% retained would be enough?

Was thinking about Markstrom’s rights earlier today.

 

What if the Canucks and Flames made a swap of some kind?  Markstrom’s rights for Talbot’s right and a draft pick.   
 

The Canucks get their 1A goalie on a 2 year deal (3 milllion AAV) to help break in Demko as the number 1 (60-40 or 65-35 split where Demko starts the majority of games), while the Flames sign Markstrom at 6 million for 6 years (or whatever term Marky is looking for).

 

Im wondering if something like that could work for both teams?

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JB should make his best pitch to Markstrom and if he wants a contract with a NMC or more term or $$$ then trade his rights to a team, try to get a conditional pick as if he signs with that club we get a higher pick.

 

There is less than a month to go till UFA, can't drag things out too long, they already had a full season in which they could have extended him and either didn't or JM wanted to bet on himself to increase his worth.

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17 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

JB should make his best pitch to Markstrom and if he wants a contract with a NMC or more term or $$$ then trade his rights to a team, try to get a conditional pick as if he signs with that club we get a higher pick.

 

There is less than a month to go till UFA, can't drag things out too long, they already had a full season in which they could have extended him and either didn't or JM wanted to bet on himself to increase his worth.

Picks conditional on the player re-signing are no longer allowed under the new CBA. 

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7 minutes ago, Pears said:

Wrong. The Toffoli trade involves a 4th going to LA if he re-signs in Vancouver. 

That deal was done prior to the new CBA extension.  Any new deals can’t include a pick conditional on re-signing. 

https://www.canescountry.com/2020/7/9/21318603/national-hockey-league-collective-bargaining-agreement-return-play-coronavirus-stanley-cup-playoffs

 

  • Teams will no longer be able to condition a draft pick in a trade on a player re-signing with the acquiring team. In other words, deals like the one that sent Taylor Hall to Arizona, with a third-round pick coming back to New Jersey that could upgrade to a second- or first-round pick depending on if Hall re-signs with the Coyotes, will not be allowed. Conditions relating to games played, playoff qualification or advancement and the like are still allowed.”
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16 hours ago, Robert Long said:

No. The teams that need him need to move salary out. 

I don't know about that.

A team like Colorado could sure use him.

Their number one problem in the playoffs was goaltending.

Having Marky between the pipes would definitely raise their odds of winning a cup.

If signing him becomes doubtful, maybe Colorado might be interested in an exclusive negotiating window with him for a low draft pick.

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I doubt we get to dump cap, but we should certainly put a time limit on the negotiations (soon) and move on if it isn’t going to work out.

 

We need to look at the trade market for a goalie and not just UFAs, and we need time to sign our other free agents before the draft.  We can’t wait forever for a negotiation that has already been going on for months.

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17 hours ago, DarkIndianRises said:

Was thinking about Markstrom’s rights earlier today.

 

What if the Canucks and Flames made a swap of some kind?  Markstrom’s rights for Talbot’s right and a draft pick.   
 

The Canucks get their 1A goalie on a 2 year deal (3 milllion AAV) to help break in Demko as the number 1 (60-40 or 65-35 split where Demko starts the majority of games), while the Flames sign Markstrom at 6 million for 6 years (or whatever term Marky is looking for).

 

Im wondering if something like that could work for both teams?

Markstrom to the Flames would be a nightmare. I could already see a first round match up next season where the Flames with Markstrom in net takes us out in a long series where Markstrom stole a game 7 win of them.

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Washington just announced they are letting Hotby go to FA, they could sign Markstrom for Hotby money and clauses and it would be a huge raise for Marky, 6X6.5 with clauses

Teams that want Markstrom will just wait until later. Marky is the marque goalie out there now, apart from Demko.

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